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 Topic: Italian mother wants the Crucifix out of kids' classrooms

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  • Italian mother wants the Crucifix out of kids' classrooms
     OP - July 01, 2010, 06:09 AM

     

    (CNN) -- Italy pushed back Wednesday against a European court ruling that crucifixes in classrooms violate students' right to freedom of religion and education.
    The European Court of Human Rights found unanimously in November that the display of a particular religious symbol -- such as the Christian cross -- in a classroom "restricted the right of parents to educate their children in conformity with their convictions, and the right of children to believe or not to believe."
    But the court agreed in January to hear Italy's appeal.
    Ten other European governments, dozens of European lawmakers and half a dozen nongovernmental organizations have also gotten involved in the appeal.
    The original case was brought by an Italian woman, Soile Lautsi, who objected to the crucifixes on the walls in her two sons' classrooms.
    She fought her way through the Italian legal system starting in 2001, arguing that she wanted to raise her children as secular, according to court documents.

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  • Re: Italian mother wants the Crucifix out of kids' classrooms
     Reply #1 - July 01, 2010, 09:28 AM

    respect to this woman who kicked ass. I bet the Italian appeal will get over-ruled , and Berlusconi with his right wing crooks can stick the crucifixes up theirs....

    Just look at the sun and the moon, rotating around the earth perfectly! Out of all the never ending space in the universe, the sun and moon ended up close to earth rotating around it perfectly.!!

  • Re: Italian mother wants the Crucifix out of kids' classrooms
     Reply #2 - July 01, 2010, 09:30 AM

    Yeah, I wish one day, this can happen in a Muslim country  Afro

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  • Re: Italian mother wants the Crucifix out of kids' classrooms
     Reply #3 - July 01, 2010, 09:32 AM

    well, a country must have a secular constitution in order do be able to pull up such a thing. You can't do anything if your country acknowledges one religion or another as official, and protects it with blasphemy laws and crap like that.

    Just look at the sun and the moon, rotating around the earth perfectly! Out of all the never ending space in the universe, the sun and moon ended up close to earth rotating around it perfectly.!!

  • Re: Italian mother wants the Crucifix out of kids' classrooms
     Reply #4 - July 01, 2010, 10:57 AM

    A very sensible woman!  Afro  Afro



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  • Re: Italian mother wants the Crucifix out of kids' classrooms
     Reply #5 - March 19, 2011, 11:08 PM


    Well actually she is not Italian but Finnish.

    There is also a discussion about the matter in this thread :

    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?action=search2


    Anyway, the latest News is :

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    European Court Ruling Allows Crucifixes in Public Classrooms

    By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
    Published: March 18, 2011


    The European Court of Human Rights ruled Friday that crucifixes are acceptable in public school classrooms, a decision that will be binding in 47 countries. The ruling overturned its decision in an Italian case in 2009 that said the crucifix could be disturbing to non-Christian or atheist pupils. Several countries, led by Italy, appealed that ruling. In its ruling on Friday, the court said it found no evidence “that the display of such a symbol on classroom walls might have an influence on pupils.” Italy’s foreign minister, Franco Frattini, applauded the decision, saying, “The popular sentiment in Europe has won today.”


    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/19/world/europe/19briefs-ART-Crucifix.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss


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  • Re: Italian mother wants the Crucifix out of kids' classrooms
     Reply #6 - March 19, 2011, 11:36 PM

    respect to this woman who kicked ass. I bet the Italian appeal will get over-ruled , and Berlusconi with his right wing crooks can stick the crucifixes up theirs....

    +1.
  • Re: Italian mother wants the Crucifix out of kids' classrooms
     Reply #7 - March 21, 2011, 02:22 PM

    Well actually she is not Italian but Finnish.


    She was born in Finland but is an Italian citizen and has lived there for a couple of decades.

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    And he's the mother of grief
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