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 Topic: Humans' Early Arrival in Britain

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  • Humans' Early Arrival in Britain
     OP - July 07, 2010, 11:51 PM

    Probably an old extinct species of the genus homo very close to modern humans. Interesting read.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science_and_environment/10531419.stm


    Researchers have discovered stone tools in Norfolk, UK, that suggest that early humans arrived in Britain nearly a million years ago - or even earlier.

    The find, published in the journal Nature, pushes back the arrival of the first humans in what is now the UK by several hundred thousand years.

    Environmental data suggests that temperatures were relatively cool.

    This raises the possibility that these early Britons may have been among the first humans to use fire to keep warm.

    They may also have been some of the earliest humans to wear fur clothing.

    The discoveries were made in Happisburgh, in the north of Norfolk. At the time there was a land bridge connecting what is now southern Britain with continental Europe.

    There are no early human remains, but the researchers speculate that the most likely species was Homo antecessor, more commonly - and possibly appropriately - known as "Pioneer Man".

    Remains of the species have been found in the Atapuerca region of northern Spain, and dated to 0.8-1.2 million years ago. So the species could well have been in Britain at around that time, according to Professor Chris Stringer of the Natural History Museum in London.

    "If the climate was good and the land bridge was there, there's no real reason they couldn't have come (to Britain) as far back as 1.2 million years ago," he told BBC News.

    Pioneer Man was much like our own species in that it walked upright, used tools and was a hunter gatherer.

    But physically the species looked rather different. It had a smaller brain, strong brow ridges and big teeth, with some primitive features such as a flat face and no prominent chin on the lower jaw.
    'Real pioneers'

    The discovery raises many new questions, such as how these creatures dealt with the cold winters that existed at the time. Scientists have also speculated that they may have used shelters and clothing.

    It also raises the possibility that Britain was the first place where fire was used in a controlled way for warmth.

    "Although we don't have the evidence for fire or of clothing to get through the winters up here, I think they must have had some extra adaptations," said Professor Stringer.

    "I think the evidence suggests that they were living at the edge of the inhabited world in a really challenging environment and indeed they were real pioneers living here in Britain, nearly a million years ago," he said.

    The research was led by Dr Nick Ashton of the British Museum, London, as part of the Ancient Human Occupation of Britain (AHOB) project.

    "The discovery is immensely surprising because we are dealing with an incredibly early date," Dr Ashton said.

    He added that the environmental data that indicated the relatively low tempertures was "even more surprising".

    "It's unusual to find humans in such a cool climate this far north at this very early date," he said.

    This area of Norfolk was quite a different place one million years ago.

    "The [River] Thames was flowing through this area. And at the site we have sediments laid down by the Thames," he explained.

    Pioneer man was eventually wiped out by an Ice Age. These occurred about every 100,000 years, and each time that happened Britain was depopulated.

    As conditions became more benign, a new group of humans arrived.

    There were at least eight different waves of people that came in and died out before the last wave, which is the one that survives today.

    Nothing can be more contrary to religion and the clergy than reason and common sense. - Voltaire
  • Re: Humans' Early Arrival in Britain
     Reply #1 - July 08, 2010, 12:10 AM

    GAWD I LOVE ANTHROPOLOGY!!   This is amazing!
    prehistory is my PASSION!!!

     thnkyu  for sharing!   Afro

    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: Humans' Early Arrival in Britain
     Reply #2 - July 08, 2010, 05:41 AM

    Pioneer Man was much like our own species in that it walked upright, used tools and was a hunter gatherer.

    But physically the species looked rather different. It had a smaller brain, strong brow ridges and big teeth, with some primitive features such as a flat face and no prominent chin on the lower jaw.

    I used to work with a bloke like that.

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Humans' Early Arrival in Britain
     Reply #3 - July 08, 2010, 05:53 AM

     Cheesy

    Nothing can be more contrary to religion and the clergy than reason and common sense. - Voltaire
  • Re: Humans' Early Arrival in Britain
     Reply #4 - July 08, 2010, 06:18 AM

    No shit. I did. We used to call him the Neanderthal. His name was Archie and he was really short too.

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Humans' Early Arrival in Britain
     Reply #5 - July 08, 2010, 06:33 AM

    GAWD I LOVE ANTHROPOLOGY!!   This is amazing!
    prehistory is my PASSION!!!

     thnkyu  for sharing!   Afro


    It's my passion too

    "In a child's power to master the multiplication table, there is more sanctity than in all your shouted "amens" and "holy holies" and "hosannas." An idea is a greater monument than a cathedral. And the advance of man's knowledge is a greater miracle than all the sticks" - Henry Drummond
  • Re: Humans' Early Arrival in Britain
     Reply #6 - July 08, 2010, 07:19 AM

    GAWD I LOVE ANTHROPOLOGY!!   This is amazing!
    prehistory is my PASSION!!!

     thnkyu  for sharing!   Afro


    it is just soooo damn fascinating !! i have seen so many documentaries regarding evolution and human migrations that this type of stuff is becoming a hoby. do u study this or is it just a side hobby ?

    Nothing can be more contrary to religion and the clergy than reason and common sense. - Voltaire
  • Re: Humans' Early Arrival in Britain
     Reply #7 - July 08, 2010, 03:37 PM

    Canex.. i am an ameture anthropologist.
    prehistory is my #1 choice of study.
    I am ALWAYS studying cultural anthro
    at EVERY opportunity!  One anthro
    professor told me the only thing holding
    me back from having a degree is just
    learning the anthro lingo, that other than that,
    he saw me as being a bonafide anthropologist.
    My brain is a sponge for anything anthro EXCEPT
    "corporate anthro"  the study of culture within
    corporate/business industries *bleck*

    I have books, dvds, etc by the boatload  bunny

    I started my observations of man/culture and started
    questioning at around 9 years old.  I have always been
    fascinated with the paradoxical mystery known as homo sapien!

    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: Humans' Early Arrival in Britain
     Reply #8 - July 08, 2010, 03:41 PM

    here ya go, oz LMAO!!!

    http://www.erichufschmid.net/Neanderthals/More-Neanderthals-4.html

    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: Humans' Early Arrival in Britain
     Reply #9 - July 08, 2010, 04:52 PM

    I used to work with a bloke like that.


     Cheesy

    Back in my school days, we had a guy that fitted that description. The poor guy, they called him "The caveman". I was always defending him. He was from syria.




     Cheesy

    Quote
    The man who claims to be Paul McCartney. Take a look at the evidence that the real McCartney died, or was murdered, in 1966.


    ...
  • Re: Humans' Early Arrival in Britain
     Reply #10 - July 08, 2010, 05:15 PM



    good one!  Cheesy Cheesy

    Nothing can be more contrary to religion and the clergy than reason and common sense. - Voltaire
  • Re: Humans' Early Arrival in Britain
     Reply #11 - July 08, 2010, 05:27 PM



    Is that^ website for real?

    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Humans' Early Arrival in Britain
     Reply #12 - July 08, 2010, 05:29 PM

    I started my observations of man/culture and started questioning at around 9 years old.  

    How did you square the ancient history of man with your previous Abrahmic beliefs of a modern man born since Adam & Eve?

    My Book     news002       
    My Blog  pccoffee
  • Re: Humans' Early Arrival in Britain
     Reply #13 - July 08, 2010, 05:31 PM

    Researchers have discovered stone tools in Norfolk, UK, that suggest that the first humans arrived in Britain nearly two weeks ago - or even earlier.


    Interesting. Who woulda thunk it?

    fuck you
  • Re: Humans' Early Arrival in Britain
     Reply #14 - July 08, 2010, 05:40 PM

    IsLame.. as is with all cults, you blind your eyes to truth, to prefer to believe the lies.
    my early years were more of observing people, their behaviors, culural similarities
    and differences, rather than perhistory.  That fascination came many years later.
    The *the world is only 6,000 years old* crap, never set right with me, but i just
    used "white out" on my thoughts on it, and instead focused on my screaming and
    running around the church hollering in tongues, and shaking my hair all over the place.

    the xian church i was in explained away evolution with "those were previous dispensations of the
    earth that god destroyed because they were so vile and sinful"  Still didnt explain the
    finds such as lucy and neanderthals, though. but again, chose to believe in the
    TRUE "adam and eve" bullshit

    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: Humans' Early Arrival in Britain
     Reply #15 - July 08, 2010, 08:24 PM

    Cool
  • Re: Humans' Early Arrival in Britain
     Reply #16 - July 11, 2010, 02:17 PM

    canex... tell me about your studies please!! and what book have you read, videos
    have you seen, what is your choice of studies, please share anything you have
    learned that you find fascinating!    dance

    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: Humans' Early Arrival in Britain
     Reply #17 - July 12, 2010, 07:34 AM

    Its mostly a free time hobby for me. My area of studies is different. Unfortunately i dont have the time to read books on the matter thats why i prefer articles and documentaries mostly.

    One of the best documentaries I have seen is the BBC's incredible human journey hosted by Dr.Alice Roberts. She tracks human remains/markers both genetic and physical as she reveals how the human populations spread out of Africa. The documentary includes her traveling all over the world visiting some amazing locations and also shows awesome climate change models that lead to human being able to leave Africa and settle in some impossible places like Australia and north America. I just loved this documentary.

    Here is a link to its first part: "Out of Africa" then there are parts for the Americas, Asia, europe, & Australia.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mRa9ICp9oY

    Another one i saw was "A Genetic Odyssey". This one is fairly similar to the one above but very informative as well. Here is one part:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV6A8oGtPc4

    after that i have enjoyed reading up on the neanderthals as well. One thing i found just fascinating was the recent study about a small percentage of europeans having neanderthal genome in them.
    http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18869-neanderthal-genome-reveals-interbreeding-with-humans.html

    There are many documentaries for neanderthals like this one:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRHzOt-kQok

    So how about you ? What are some good sources that you rely on for your fix of anthropology ?

    Nothing can be more contrary to religion and the clergy than reason and common sense. - Voltaire
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