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  • Question: What is the meaning of life
  • to leave the world a better place than when you entered it - 2 (5.6%)
  • to have fun/enjoy oneself - 0 (0%)
  • there is no meaning - 12 (33.3%)
  • we are in charge of creating our own meaning - 12 (33.3%)
  • to serve god - 1 (2.8%)
  • to find out what the meaning is - 0 (0%)
  • to be the best person you can be - 0 (0%)
  • to find true happiness - 0 (0%)
  • to love and be loved - 0 (0%)
  • to reproduce, evolve, and propogate our species - 1 (2.8%)
  • there is one, but it can't be known - 2 (5.6%)
  • there may or may not be one, but it can't be known - 0 (0%)
  • other (elaborate) - 2 (5.6%)
  • to obtain "enlightenment" - 4 (11.1%)
  • to advance knowledge - 0 (0%)
  • Total Voters: 36

 Topic: The meaning of life

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  • Re: The meaning of life
     Reply #90 - August 20, 2010, 06:03 PM
    Quote from: Abood on August 20, 2010, 06:02 PM
    20 pgs is a lot? How do you get through 200+ pg books?

    I dont, Ive got the attention span of a goldfish
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  • Re: The meaning of life
     Reply #91 - August 20, 2010, 06:04 PM
    Quote from: Prince Spinoza on August 20, 2010, 06:03 PM
    Very slowly I imagine.

    Oi, get back to the debate  finmad
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  • Re: The meaning of life
     Reply #92 - August 20, 2010, 06:57 PM
    Quote from: IsLame on August 20, 2010, 05:17 PM
    But we know the brain also dies when we die.  To become aware are you assuming we are conscious when we are dead or we have a some kind of "soul"?  

    What is the point for babies who live for only a few hours, or even die in the womb?


    What's the point for these babies? I didn't say there was a point, now did I? I didn't say there was a meaning to life, infact I said 'I think there's no one ultimate answer to the meaning to life..' I think currently people give their own lives meaning (like with religions or just living life etc). And all I said was WHAT I BELIEVE WILL HAPPEN AFTER DEATH and that it maybe possible to get a better understanding of 'the meaning of life' generations into the future where the people may have developed into beings of greater awareness.

    Perhaps you should actually read my posts.

    I aslo said that this belief i have is a wishy washy belief , which means it's vague, and it's only for my personal comfort.

    I'm not taking this any further. Let's be honest with each other it's not like any of you really give a shit about my personal beliefs and frankly I can't be assed.
    "Between stimulus and response there is a space. In that space is our power to choose our response. In our response lies our growth and our freedom." - Viktor E. Frankl

    'Life is just the extreme expression of complex chemistry' - Neil deGrasse Tyson
  • Re: The meaning of life
     Reply #93 - August 20, 2010, 07:02 PM
    If you believe that's the truth, then why wouldn't you want to convince us? The whole point of discussions is to be more enlightened.
  • Re: The meaning of life
     Reply #94 - August 20, 2010, 07:04 PM
    What do you mean  Huh? I think she made herself very clear, everywhere! finmad
    "If intelligence is feminine... I would want that mine would, in a resolute movement, come to resemble an impious woman."
  • Re: The meaning of life
     Reply #95 - August 20, 2010, 07:05 PM
    No one said  Huh?.

    Tongue
  • Re: The meaning of life
     Reply #96 - August 20, 2010, 07:07 PM
    Ugh
    "If intelligence is feminine... I would want that mine would, in a resolute movement, come to resemble an impious woman."
  • Re: The meaning of life
     Reply #97 - August 20, 2010, 07:08 PM
     grin12
  • Re: The meaning of life
     Reply #98 - August 20, 2010, 07:13 PM
    Quote from: thinkfree on August 20, 2010, 12:52 PM
    +1 to whoever.

    This is all very interesting. Words fill me with wonder, etc.


    +2
  • Re: The meaning of life
     Reply #99 - August 20, 2010, 08:51 PM
    Quote from: stardust on August 20, 2010, 06:57 PM
    What's the point for these babies? I didn't say there was a point, now did I?

    Oooohh getting touchy are we? This is a forum, get used to being challenged & asked questions.
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    I didn't say there was a meaning to life

    I didnt say you did.  I asked what happens to babies when they die, because you seem to believe there is an additional dimension after death, and I wonder what would be the point if it only lived for an hour and might not be able to comprehend or even be a point if it only lived for an hour.

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    infact I said 'I think there's no one ultimate answer to the meaning to life..

    could that be because there isnt one?

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    I aslo said that this belief i have is a wishy washy belief , which means it's vague, and it's only for my personal comfort.

    tbh it sounds a little silly to me, believing in something because you want it to be true, rather than because it is.  Reminds me of why many believe in a heaven or life after death. But at least they have something tangible like their scriptures to go off.
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  • Re: The meaning of life
     Reply #100 - August 20, 2010, 09:43 PM
    Quote from: Prince Spinoza on August 20, 2010, 05:28 PM
    Conciousness is an extremely poorly understood concept and anyone who says otherwise is being pretentious.

    Pretentiousness is an extremely poorly understood concept that involves consciousness ;P
    Do not look directly at the operational end of the device.
  • Re: The meaning of life
     Reply #101 - August 20, 2010, 09:48 PM
    This planet has developed a nervous system (through the internet/telecommunications) and now one could say that it has developed rudimentary consciousness. Tongue  This planet is now a complex organism.  Tongue
    "Many people would sooner die than think; In fact, they do so." -- Bertrand Russell

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  • Re: The meaning of life
     Reply #102 - August 21, 2010, 12:14 AM
    Quote from: IsLame on August 20, 2010, 08:51 PM
    I didnt say you did.  I asked what happens to babies when they die, because you seem to believe there is an additional dimension after death, and I wonder what would be the point if it only lived for an hour and might not be able to comprehend or even be a point if it only lived for an hour.

    Your question is irrelevant. The fact that a baby dies at birth doesn't mean his/her life didn't have a purpose, nor does it mean life as a whole / existence doesn't have a purpose.

    Also, I don't believe she ever said there's an additional dimension after death. She made it explicitly clear that humans are not conscious after death.

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    could that be because there isnt one?

    That's exactly what she said. Roll Eyes

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    tbh it sounds a little silly to me, believing in something because you want it to be true, rather than because it is.  Reminds me of why many believe in a heaven or life after death. But at least they have something tangible like their scriptures to go off.

    Is it wishful thinking to believe that the Earth is conscious?

    From the link Prince Spinoza posted, which you didn't want to bother reading, or at least scanning through:

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    Sentience. It may be conscious in the generic sense of simply being a sentient creature, one capable of sensing and responding to its world (Armstrong 1981).


    In this sense, it's not far-fetched to say that the Earth is conscious. If we fuck it up, it will fuck us up. Example: climate change. The Earth seeks balance and harmony and will react if we disrupted that balance.

    Is it self-aware and self-conscious (i.e. aware that it reacts)? Probably not.
  • Re: The meaning of life
     Reply #103 - August 23, 2010, 10:18 PM
    This week on BBC Radio 4's Beyond Belief (30 minute) program:

    A secular meaning to life

    Click to listen to the program:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00td8hl

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    In this programme, Ernie asks whether there is a secular meaning of life and how this can be achieved without a shared reference to God or other higher spiritual figure. What is the basis of our morality and can there be any universally held, objective rules of right and wrong if there is no God?

    Ernie and the panel hear from the writer, AN Wilson, who recounts his journey from childhood belief, through atheism and back to a constant, yet doubting faith in God.

    In the second half of the programme, the panel discuss how a secular purpose to life is created and asks whether the purpose of life without God, can only be failure? In a secular world, have the terrors of hell been replaced by the terrors of failure? Can belief in God offer redemption where human capacity has failed?

    The panel comprises Fergus Stokes who was once a Baptist minister and now is a humanist who practises psychotherapy; Dr Sue Blackmore, Visiting Professor in the School of Psychology at the University of Plymouth and who is a Zen Practitioner; and Canon Dr Alan Billings, former director of the Centre for Ethics and Religion at the University of Lancaster.

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  • Re: The meaning of life
     Reply #104 - August 24, 2010, 01:13 AM
    None. There is no meaning, no purpose. Life is utterly meaningless.
    fuck you
  • Re: The meaning of life
     Reply #105 - August 27, 2010, 10:25 PM
    "This forum is decadent and wasteful. In order to win, mind must be hard and joyless, like Russian turnip."

    I couldn't have said it better.

    "...every imperfection in man is a bond with heaven..." - Karl Marx
  • Re: The meaning of life
     Reply #106 - August 30, 2010, 02:42 AM
    pop music
  • Re: The meaning of life
     Reply #107 - August 30, 2010, 02:57 AM
    Hey bro, you want some penis pills-- will make you longer and harder. Up to 4 inches in less than a month.
    fuck you
  • Re: The meaning of life
     Reply #108 - August 30, 2010, 06:57 AM
    ..
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  • Re: The meaning of life
     Reply #109 - August 30, 2010, 08:06 AM
    It seems to me that all of life is an attempt to jump in the air and proclaim 'Yes!'
    At evening, casual flocks of pigeons make
    Ambiguous undulations as they sink,
    Downward to darkness, on extended wings. - Stevens
  • Re: The meaning of life
     Reply #110 - August 30, 2010, 01:29 PM
    Quote from: Q-Man on August 30, 2010, 02:57 AM
    Hey bro, you want some -- will make you longer and harder. Up to 4 inches in less than a month.

    How do I shoot web? :(
  • Re: The meaning of life
     Reply #111 - August 30, 2010, 02:02 PM
    Quote from: z10 on August 30, 2010, 08:06 AM
    It seems to me that all of life is an attempt to jump in the air and proclaim 'Yes!'

    No it isnt
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  • Re: The meaning of life
     Reply #112 - August 30, 2010, 02:06 PM
    Quote from: z10 on August 30, 2010, 08:06 AM
    It seems to me that all of life is an attempt to jump in the air and proclaim 'Yes!'

     Huh? Undecided
    Is there a z10 translator on the internet that we can use? whistling2
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  • Re: The meaning of life
     Reply #113 - August 30, 2010, 02:07 PM
    Quote from: z10 on August 30, 2010, 08:06 AM
    It seems to me that all of life is an attempt to jump in the air and proclaim 'Yes!'

    Each of us a failed state in stark relief against the backdrop of the perfect worlds we seek.
    Propagandhi - Failed States
  • Re: The meaning of life
     Reply #114 - August 30, 2010, 03:01 PM
    ^ that dude is not jumpng. he's having a seizure
    If you ask me to define anything i will slap you with my pimp hand and make you cry like a biatch.

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  • Re: The meaning of life
     Reply #115 - August 30, 2010, 03:14 PM
    Nah, I think he's trying to hold in a shit
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  • Re: The meaning of life
     Reply #116 - August 30, 2010, 03:54 PM
    42
    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
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  • Re: The meaning of life
     Reply #117 - August 30, 2010, 04:10 PM
    whats a 42?
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  • Re: The meaning of life
     Reply #118 - August 30, 2010, 04:12 PM
    The answer to the meaning of life.
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  • Re: The meaning of life
     Reply #119 - August 30, 2010, 04:14 PM
    what kind of explanation is that ?
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