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OP - September 10, 2010, 07:58 PM

So, on my way to the airport coming to Canada, my parents told me a story...

There was a Kuwaiti woman in London, she got into the tube with two other people in the same car, and then a big scary man walks in. She goes out of the car, recites a few suras of the Quran, and walks back in. The guy killed the two other people but didn't kill her. When she asked him why, he said he had actually come in for her, but there were two huge men standing in front of her.

Apparently, this was all over the news.

Now you can share your own stories about how Islam is super awesome.
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Reply #1 - September 10, 2010, 08:16 PM

Subhannallah.

This happened earlier this Ramadan. I'm in a car with my cousin. We go by a Shia mosque and he starts talking about Shia Islam and how wrong they are. I don't know much about Shia Islam so I'm struggling to contribute to the conversation. The one thing I do sorta know about Shias is the ceremony where they cut themselves with a sword - but I wasn't sure if I was correct.

Me: Don't they cut themselves with a sword?

Cousin: Yeah, man. That's disgusting, how can they do that to themselves. What sort of religion would tell people to cut themselves?

*AWKWARD SILENCE*

In my head, I'm thinking "Islam, Islam, Islam" but yeah that awkard silence just went on and on.

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Reply #2 - September 10, 2010, 08:21 PM

Only the extremists actually do that.

I had several arguments with my parents about Shias and stuff. They kept talking about how much they hate the Sahaaba and how they've created a fitna blah blah. The funny thing is that if I were to convert back into Islam, I'd definitely be Shia.
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Reply #3 - September 10, 2010, 09:20 PM

Quote from: Abood on September 10, 2010, 07:58 PM
So, on my way to the airport coming to Canada, my parents told me a story...

There was a Kuwaiti woman in London, she got into the tube with two other people in the same car, and then a big scary man walks in. She goes out of the car, recites a few suras of the Quran, and walks back in. The guy killed the two other people but didn't kill her. When she asked him why, he said he had actually come in for her, but there were two huge men standing in front of her.

Apparently, this was all over the news.

Now you can share your own stories about how Islam is super awesome.

So why didn't he kill her after he'd killed the two huge men? They might have been muslims too anyway. I mean, what a dismal story.

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Reply #4 - September 10, 2010, 09:29 PM

He didn't kill the two huge men. He killed the two other people who were with her in the car.
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Reply #5 - September 10, 2010, 09:31 PM

I've got a good one!

I woman was walking alone at night and she had to go through this dark alleyway where a known rapist would hang out. She knew this so as she walked through the alleyway, she was reciting durood shareef. The rapist saw her and left her alone. When she got through to the other end of the alleyway, she was wondering why the rapist left her alone so she went back in the alleyway and asked him! He said that he saw two men dressed in white walking with her!

Firstly, if there was a known rapist hanging around an alleyway, how long would he be allowed to stay there before police/vigilantes got hold of him?

Secondly, if she knew there was a known rapist in that alleyway, why did she go through there in the first place?

Thirdly, when she got out of the alleyway, surely she would have counted her blessings that nothing happened to her and then leg it! Why would she go back and ask the rapist why he didn't rape her?!

Such a stupid story on so many levels!

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Reply #6 - September 10, 2010, 09:31 PM

Another story.

Two Kuwaiti men were at a David Copperfield show in Vegas. They kept reciting verses from the Quran while Copperfield was attempting to perform his magic. He realized that there were people interfering with him and the jinn, so he pointed right at the two guys in the middle of the crowd and sent the security men to kick them out.
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Reply #7 - September 10, 2010, 09:33 PM

@ Mixu: Lol. I think we should play a "What's wrong with this story?" game.
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Reply #8 - September 11, 2010, 11:43 AM

My dad's uncle (Ali) was an active communist back in the 60s. He participated in marches and distributed literature and stuff. So he was jailed in an underground prison by the anti-Communist pan-Arabist Arif government.
For two years, his family did everything they could to free him. Lawyers, appeals, bribes....etc all didn't work out. His family genuinely thought that the reason why he wasn't pardoned and released (as were many of his comrades) is that he was an atheist and he refused to make Du'aa.

According to my grandfather (Ali's brother), one day Ali finally accepted to make Du'aa. The same night, he heard the sound of horses coming from far away. 15 minutes later a man with an extremely bright face came to rescue them. He was dressed in a Bedouin Arab attire and riding on a beautiful white horse. His face was so bright, they couldn't look him in the eyes. Anyway, he broke the bunker's locks, freed them, and told them "Run now. I've blinded the guards for 15 minutes" and set off on his horse. They asked him who he was and he replied "Ali ibn Abi Talin"

I was 14-15 when my granddad told me the story so I couldn't help but wonder if it was true. So I asked my dad's uncle about it and he was like "WTF?! I never made Du'aa! There was no glowing Ali. Our comrades organized the operation and planned for it for weeks. They pretended to be tribesmen from the nearby village. They wore Bedouin clothes, rode on horses and brought food and tea with anesthetics in them to the prison guards. And they also used chloroform handkerchiefs to take out the guards who didn't have any food or tea"
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Reply #9 - September 11, 2010, 11:48 AM

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I was 14-15 when my granddad told me the story so I couldn't help but wonder if it was true. So I asked my dad's uncle about it and he was like "WTF?! I never made Du'aa! There was no glowing Ali. Our comrades organized the operation and planned for it for weeks. They pretended to be tribesmen from the nearby village. They wore Bedouin clothes, rode on horses and brought food and tea with anesthetics in them to the prison guards. And they also used chloroform handkerchiefs to take out the guards who didn't have any food or tea" Cheesy

Okay, now that is hilarious!

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Reply #10 - September 11, 2010, 11:58 AM

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Reply #11 - September 11, 2010, 12:00 PM

Disclaimer: dont know how true this is, but my dad told me this as a kid.

Salauddin, the masterful islamic swordsmen, challenged Richard the Great to use his sword so quickly & swiftly so as to slice his thrown handkerchief in half. Richard tried but made a fool out of himself. Then he had a go, and guess what, he sliced it up into bits.

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Reply #12 - September 11, 2010, 12:03 PM

Scarves float slowly in the air. Any half sober swordsman could hit it. That story is an old one but the version I heard had to do with the sharpness of the swords. The European ones were of lower quality steel and couldn't hold the same edge, plus they didn't have to as European combat at the time relied largely on impact and crushing armour.

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Reply #13 - September 12, 2010, 09:04 PM

Just remembered this one. My grandma told me it. Back in the 30s when she was a young girl, her father's best friend was one of the biggest rice merchants in Baghdad and he was Jewish (Ezra). He used to own the shop next to my grandma's dad's shop. Every year, he would go to the South of Iraq where the rice farmers/suppliers are to buy rice and then he would sell it in Baghdad.

One year, he spent all his money buying as much rice as he could because the quality of the rice was exceptional that year and he thought everybody in Baghdad would like it so that he would sell it all immediately and make a big profit.
So he paid half of the money, and went back to Baghdad and made an agreement with the provider to pay the other half on delivery. As you might expected, the delivery crew got ambushed and killed in the way and the rice disappeared. Everyone accused the provider and he was arrested. They searched his house and farm but didn't find the rice.
Anyway months passed and Ezra was forced to sell his shop. My grandma's father took him to a trip to Karbala to cheer him up and he took my grandma with them. They visited Abbas' Shrine and my grandma's dad donated some money to the shrine in the name of Ezra and asked Allah to find Ezra's rice.

Long story short Ezra had a dream that night. A man with a beautiful bright face on a white horse......etc (you get the idea) came to him and told him that his main competitor was the one who stole the rice and that he had hidden it in a storage site near where the ambush took place.
He woke up and informed the police immediately (who apparently at the time regarded holy dreams as evidence ). They went to the site and found the rice and his main competitor was jailed.

And even though Ezra didn't convert to Islam and died a Jew, he kept donating 10% of his profits to Abbas' shrine every year until he died.

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Reply #14 - September 12, 2010, 09:06 PM

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who apparently at the time regarded holy dreams as evidence

That part of it wouldn't surprise me. I've heard of western police forces wasting their time with psychics and mediums, so it wouldn't surprise me if there were some who believed in holy dreams.

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Reply #15 - September 12, 2010, 09:13 PM

I know, Cheetah. It's possible specially in a place like 30s Iraq. But still, I didn't buy the story. I'm sure poor Ezra didn't have a dream with Abbas in it.
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Reply #16 - September 12, 2010, 09:28 PM

when i was younger i was told that if you pee standing up, then a Jinn above you does a poo on your head. for quite a while i used to pee whilst staring at the ceiling.

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Reply #17 - September 12, 2010, 09:34 PM

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Young Man: I have 3 questions: 1) Does God exist? If so, show me His shape. 2) What is taqdir (fate)? And 3) If shaitan (Devil) was created from the fire, why at the end he will be thrown to hell that is also created from fire. It certainly will not hurt him at all, since Shaitan (Devil) and the hell were created from fire. Did God not think of it this far?

Suddenly, the Scholar slapped the young man's face very hard.

Young man (feeling pain): Why do you get angry at me?

Scholar: I am not angry. The slap is my answer to your three questions.

Young Man: I really don't understand.

Scholar: How do you feel after I slapped you?

Young man: Of course, I felt the pain.

Scholar: So do you believe that pain exists?

Young man: Yes.

Scholar: Show me the shape of the pain!

Young man: I cannot.

Scholar: That is my first answer. All of us feel God's existence without being able to see His shape... Last night, did you dream that you will be slapped by me?

Young man: No!

Scholar: Did you ever think that you will get a slap from me today?

Young man: No, Scholar: That is takdir (fate) my second answer........ My hand that I used to slap you, what is it created from?

Young man: It is created from flesh.

Scholar: How about your face, what is it created from?

Young man: Flesh.

Scholar: How do you feel after I slapped you?

Young man: In pain.

Scholar: That’s it! This is my third answer. Even though Shaitan (Devil) and also the hell were created from the fire, if Allah wants, Insha-Allah (God willing), the hell will become a very painful place for Shaitan.

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Reply #18 - September 12, 2010, 09:37 PM

>>when i was younger i was told that if you pee standing up, then a Jinn above you does a poo on your head. for quite a while i used to pee whilst staring at the ceiling<<

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Reply #19 - September 13, 2010, 09:59 AM

Quote from: Abood on September 10, 2010, 08:21 PM
Only the extremists actually do that.

I had several arguments with my parents about Shias and stuff. They kept talking about how much they hate the Sahaaba and how they've created a fitna blah blah. The funny thing is that if I were to convert back into Islam, I'd definitely be Shia.

This is a very interesting point abood. If you don't mind me asking, why would you become a shia if you had to be muslim?

I think i would also lean towards shia-ism if I had to make the choice but I am curious why you would choose to do so.

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Reply #20 - September 13, 2010, 10:16 AM

Shias have it right when it comes to Islamic history. But Sunnis are truer to the religion and Sunnah.

I think Abood meant Shias are relatively more liberal and laid-back.
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Reply #21 - September 13, 2010, 10:29 AM

Yes I can see what you mean. I'm not sure if sunnis really do represent real Islam, after all, the shias have just as many theologians with just as many treatises to back up their own positions as sunnis do.

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Reply #22 - September 13, 2010, 10:55 AM

The first example that comes to mind is the prayer time. Sunnis pray the 5 prayers separately with each one at its specified time. Shias do them in 3 batches: Fajr, Dhuhr & Asr, and Maghrib & Ishaa. I think it was Ali who said you can combine prayers if necessary (fighting, working...). But Shias now do it even when they have all the time in the world.
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Reply #23 - September 13, 2010, 03:19 PM

Quote from: z10 on September 13, 2010, 09:59 AM
This is a very interesting point abood. If you don't mind me asking, why would you become a shia if you had to be muslim?

I think i would also lean towards shia-ism if I had to make the choice but I am curious why you would choose to do so.

Well, it's funny that the hadiths that Shias use to justify their positions regarding Ahl Al-Bayt are in the Sunni sahihs as well.

I also don't find it hard to believe that Abu Bakr and Omar were just power-hungry asswipes -- as many of the Sahaaba were, as portrayed by secular historians.
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Reply #24 - September 13, 2010, 07:48 PM

Quote from: Cheetah on September 12, 2010, 09:06 PM
That part of it wouldn't surprise me. I've heard of western police forces wasting their time with psychics and mediums, so it wouldn't surprise me if there were some who believed in holy dreams.

When they were looking for Shergar, they were contact psychics and clairvoyants to find his whereabouts!

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Disclaimer: dont know how true this is, but my dad told me this as a kid.

Salauddin, the masterful islamic swordsmen, challenged Richard the Great to use his sword so quickly & swiftly so as to slice his thrown handkerchief in half. Richard tried but made a fool out of himself. Then he had a go, and guess what, he sliced it up into bits.

So Salauddin and Richard the Lionheart met face to face in the middle of the crusades - and instead of having a fight, they just decided to have a handkerchief cutting competition?! Sounds a bit suspect!

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Reply #25 - September 13, 2010, 07:51 PM

Quote from: Mixu Paatelainen on September 13, 2010, 07:48 PM

So Salauddin and Richard the Lionheart met face to face in the middle of the crusades - and instead of having a fight, they just decided to have a handkerchief cutting competition?! Sounds a bit suspect!

That quip made me laugh out loud twice. First when I read it, then when I thought about it straight afterwards.

Anyhow good point, now why didnt I think of that

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Reply #26 - September 19, 2010, 05:37 PM

Oh yeh, I was once told in class that Sikhs have to kill a Muslim every time they want to cut their hair.
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Reply #27 - September 19, 2010, 05:53 PM

Quote from: Mixu Paatelainen on September 13, 2010, 07:48 PM
So Salauddin and Richard the Lionheart met face to face in the middle of the crusades - and instead of having a fight, they just decided to have a handkerchief cutting competition?! Sounds a bit suspect!

They never met face-to-face, however they did correspond quite a bit and seemed to genuinely like and respect each other.

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Reply #28 - September 19, 2010, 06:20 PM

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Salam, What’s Happening Brother’s and Sister’s…. so an Atheist is someone who dosen’t believe in God, they have already accepted the Shahadah half way….Get it! There is no God, now we have to guide them to finish it inshallah, There is no God but Allah, and Prophet Muhammad is his last messenger. Back to the story.

The story below shows how weak an atheist feel’s after trying to battle Imam Abu Hanifa intellectually….

Imam Abu Hafina was asked by the khalifa to meet with them and an atheist so Imam Abu Hanifa could debate with him. They set a time for them to meet up. So the day and time came and left and they kept waiting for Imam Abu Hanifa until finally he came. Everyone questioned him about his being late and what happened. So he started explaining how there was river that he had to cross….and he was waiting for a boat to come and bring him on the other side of the river.

While he was waiting, the branches and leaves of the tree fell and slowly formed themselves into a boat. And he jumped in that boat crossed the river. Obviously ppl laughed at this story and the atheist asked him ‘Are you mad enough to believe that a boat was made all by itself?
Imam Abu Hanifa replied ‘Who is more mad? the one who believed that a boat was created by itself, or you who believes that the entire world is created by itself?’

Mashallah, What a great mind and hard punchline….Inshallah Allah give us all guidance, especially Atheist’s.

I stumble upon many versions of these kind of stories, usually with each person and sheikh's narration elongated or worded to artificially inflate them so that they seem righteous.

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Reply #29 - September 21, 2010, 06:28 PM

Quote from: Abood on September 19, 2010, 05:37 PM
Oh yeh, I was once told in class that Sikhs have to kill a Muslim every time they want to cut their hair.

who told you this?

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