man made from a gush of fluid from between the backbone and the spine ...

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man made from a gush of fluid from between the backbone and the spine ...
OP - September 16, 2010, 03:46 AM

True , coincidence or fake/false
i have been having this argument with an egyptian guy just like myself about this verse ... i read most of the embryology about it since the claim here is that the testes originate from between the spine and the ribcage

my findings according to http://www.ehd.org/classics/gasser_ch8.php was that

1) the genital ridge at week 5 is between C7-T8
2)the undiffrentiated gonads is between T10-L2
3)diffrentiated it becomes from T11-L1

taking in account that the ribs are from T1-T12 formed as primordia at week 7 or something
so i was wondering does the claim stand (not nessesary wat the verse means)
what does the verse really mean??

numbers 2-3 tells me its simply imprecise
number 1 is true but no ribs formed yet so as u can see its a bit of a dilemma really

was wondering wat u people thought about that verse

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Reply #1 - September 16, 2010, 08:07 AM

Are you sure its saying that the claim is that the 'testes' originate from between the spine and the ribcage?

I was always under the impression that it was saying the sperm (fluid) originates from between the spine and the ribcage.

86:6-7 He is created from a gushing fluid, That issued from between the backbone and the ribs

The testes is not between the backbone and ribs in an adult when the so-called 'fluid' gushes out.

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Reply #2 - September 16, 2010, 12:17 PM

Quote from: tabun on September 16, 2010, 03:46 AM
True , coincidence or fake/false
i have been having this argument with an egyptian guy just like myself about this verse ... i read most of the embryology about it since the claim here is that the testes originate from between the spine and the ribcage

my findings according to http://www.ehd.org/classics/gasser_ch8.php was that

1) the genital ridge at week 5 is between C7-T8
2)the undiffrentiated gonads is between T10-L2
3)diffrentiated it becomes from T11-L1

taking in account that the ribs are from T1-T12 formed as primordia at week 7 or something
so i was wondering does the claim stand (not nessesary wat the verse means)
what does the verse really mean??

numbers 2-3 tells me its simply imprecise
number 1 is true but no ribs formed yet so as u can see its a bit of a dilemma really

was wondering wat u people thought about that verse

Its no difference to what Galen & other greek scientists thought at the time (note the Greeks also thought sperm developed directly into babies once they reached the womans womb, no concept of a female egg - and again this is mirrored by the Quran, which also makes no mention of the womans egg).

Here's my youtube video on it..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK7-kZwa1IY

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Reply #3 - September 16, 2010, 12:31 PM

Good video, IsLame. My I use it for my essay against Islam? I sorta feel guilty about writing it. =\

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Reply #4 - September 16, 2010, 01:00 PM

My publishers have just spoken to my copyright lawyers, and have said thats fine..

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Reply #5 - September 16, 2010, 02:00 PM

Confucius:
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