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  • Re: Shedding Islam
     Reply #120 - September 18, 2010, 10:52 AM
    Woooohoooo! The party has started, and I was not invited?  party!

    Welcome MAB  parrot


    Quote from: Q-Man on September 17, 2010, 08:33 AM
    His style of humor is almost identical to BlackDog's don't you think? If I didn't know IsLame brought him here, I'd think it was BD trolling us.


    Qman, spot on... I started reading this thread, and from the second post, I thought it was Blackdog playing us! He must be his twin brotha! Cheesy






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  • Re: Shedding Islam
     Reply #121 - September 18, 2010, 02:39 PM
    wow, the next commie capitalist spat on this forum(if it happens) will be a treat for neutral observers with MAB around. welcome  Afro
  • Re: Shedding Islam
     Reply #122 - September 18, 2010, 04:02 PM
    Quote from: Mount A Bison on September 18, 2010, 01:24 AM
    So darling, what's your story?

    Se te lo dicessi, poi dovrei ucciderti

    "Many people would sooner die than think; In fact, they do so." -- Bertrand Russell

    Baloney Detection Kit
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     Reply #123 - September 18, 2010, 04:48 PM
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     Reply #125 - September 18, 2010, 04:56 PM
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     Reply #126 - September 18, 2010, 05:21 PM
    Quote from: Mount A Bison on September 18, 2010, 04:48 PM
    As noted elsewhere in this forum by a Great Thinker, I'm fascinated by the concentration of so many sandle-wearin', Che-lovin', market-hatin', abortion-supportin', waste-recyclin', gay-enablin', non-gun-ownin' scoundrels under one roof. Among no class of men is there so great an incidence of disillusionment than utopians of all persuasions.

    I'm not disillusioned because I've never been illusioned. I would cast my pearls of wisdom among these fellows, but as a pedagogue in the employ of the state, as an instructor of the young and impressionable, I'm legally sworn to hold my tongue from politics within earshot of spotty-faced little chits.

    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=8585.msg346043#msg346043

    But as a lecturer in Economics, can you give us your take on the future of the world economy? Tongue  Are we gonna have a double dip recession? I don't need any political views, just economic.  Or is that also too sensitive?
    "Many people would sooner die than think; In fact, they do so." -- Bertrand Russell

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     Reply #127 - September 18, 2010, 06:46 PM
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     Reply #130 - September 18, 2010, 07:41 PM
    Quote from: Mount A Bison on September 18, 2010, 06:46 PM
    Depends wholly on how states respond. Since the Wall Sreet Crash, most states have turned to fiscal stimulus bills. The most fear-reaching by a great margin has been China's, and by no stroke of luck it has been the most successful in restoring growth. The more piecemeal offerings by America and Europe have seen less success because they have not been comprehensive enough.

    The freemarket theology that created the crisis is the same which issued in the analagously bad Depression in the 1930s and on a lesser scale in the 1980s when the uber free marketeers Reagan and Thatcher were at the helm. They promulgated the Efficient Market Hypothesis: Left to itself the market system will miraculously regulate all goods and services; risk included. Government should step out of the way and let the market work its miracle. To that end economists formulated dazzlingly sophisticated mathematical models to prove this was so.

    If one reads Keynes' 1930s work though, he argues directly against the imbecility of  Milton Friedman and Alan Greenspans of the world. In short he maintained that economics doesn't operate like Newtonian physics. One can't establish a series of tidy equations outlining a perfectly rational system because when there is a shock to the fiscal system, it cannot repair itself. The twin package of government spending and touch regulation only can prevent the economy from stampeding off the cliff.

    I'm busy reading a wonderful biography on the life and work of Keynes for my own reaserch by Robert Skidelsky called, Keynes: The Return of the Master. But if you think the super-rich shall pay any heed to the sage when they make sums of money on risky speculation that would make a dead man cry, you can do something I cannot.


    hmmm. government spending to recover from recession has some problems. the political economy problem of how unlikely reducing it back to the pre crisis level is. in case it fails to put the economy on  the long term trend growth, there is also the problem of spiralling debt(japan). the quality of the spending is usually suspect as well.
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     Reply #131 - September 18, 2010, 07:57 PM
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     Reply #132 - September 18, 2010, 08:11 PM
    i know. i've witnessed rehashed debates myself (they now happen in the open between the heavyweights no less) Smiley i am not qualified to debate either. there is only one takeaway for me overall. i am a huuuge government skeptic.
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     Reply #134 - September 19, 2010, 12:12 PM


    As-Salāmu Alaykum, welcome to the inner sanctum.

    An enigma like yourself is always a great addition. D:
    "Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
    - Robert Louis Stevenson
  • Re: Shedding Islam
     Reply #135 - September 19, 2010, 07:58 PM
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     Reply #136 - September 19, 2010, 11:12 PM

    Hey dude,
    Given that you are a smart, brutally realistic, economics lecturer, what's your take on the future of Islam? Tongue  Do you think it is brewing like the sub-prime boom was, and will end in a spectacular crash? Tongue This analogy occurred to me recently.  The economics boom before the sub-prime crash was growing like there was no tomorrow, but the smart cookies could see that it was unsustainable, because it wasn't based on sound fundamentals.  In this thread, the German-Egyptian Hamed Abdel-Samad, predicts the fall of Islam.  I suspect it will run for a bit longer, a bit like the housing boom.
    "Many people would sooner die than think; In fact, they do so." -- Bertrand Russell

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  • Re: Shedding Islam
     Reply #137 - September 19, 2010, 11:15 PM
    Islam's in for a collapse, alright.

    They keep making stimulus packages that don't work. 
    "Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
    - Robert Louis Stevenson
  • Re: Shedding Islam
     Reply #138 - September 19, 2010, 11:23 PM
    Interesting analogy. 

    Reminds me how those with a vested interest the Muslims are always taking about their growth, much like the stakeholders before the crash  whistling2
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  • Re: Shedding Islam
     Reply #139 - September 20, 2010, 12:06 AM
    Quote from: ateapotist on September 19, 2010, 11:12 PM
    Hey dude,
    Given that you are a smart, brutally realistic, economics lecturer, what's your take on the future of Islam? Tongue  Do you think it is brewing like the sub-prime boom was, and will end in a spectacular crash? Tongue This analogy occurred to me recently.  The economics boom before the sub-prime crash was growing like there was no tomorrow, but the smart cookies could see that it was unsustainable, because it wasn't based on sound fundamentals.  In this thread, the German-Egyptian Hamed Abdel-Samad, predicts the fall of Islam.  I suspect it will run for a bit longer, a bit like the housing boom.


    hmmm, islam as a memeplex and the credit markets are different kind of mathematical systems. i don't think memeplex spreads and prices of credit instruments follow even remotely similar dynamics. religions especially are very sticky memeplexes and de-religionization happens at a glacially slow pace. on current trends, i can see islam gaining strength as a political force for the next few decades, due to the political / demographic etc factors.
  • Re: Shedding Islam
     Reply #140 - September 20, 2010, 12:08 AM
    Quote from: s12345 on September 20, 2010, 12:06 AM
    i can see islam gaining strength as a political force

    *political farce  Afro
    "Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
    - Robert Louis Stevenson
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  • Re: Shedding Islam
     Reply #144 - September 20, 2010, 04:46 PM
    Quote from: Mount A Bison on September 20, 2010, 04:26 PM
    A surefire way to burst Islam's balooning demographic bubble is to empower the mobile tents who pass for women. The most efficacious weapon to that end is to push Fatima to enter the workforce, to become a productive Cit. More time spent earning filthy lucre means less time being a human factory of reproduction. God damn, I've broken my cardinal rule: no platitudes. Who will spank me?

    I'm not Keynesian expansionary fiscal policies - in any case we gotta choke this bugger.
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  • Re: Shedding Islam
     Reply #145 - September 20, 2010, 04:51 PM
    Quote from: Mount A Bison on September 18, 2010, 06:58 PM
    Pity, for I was just getting outfitted for one of these tidy numbers:

    (Clicky for piccy!)


    Oh, I was thinking this:
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
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     Reply #146 - September 20, 2010, 11:27 PM
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     Reply #147 - September 21, 2010, 08:19 PM
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  • Re: Shedding Islam
     Reply #148 - September 21, 2010, 08:27 PM
    You make too much sense.
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Shedding Islam
     Reply #149 - September 21, 2010, 08:36 PM
    Quote from: Mount A Bison on September 21, 2010, 08:19 PM
    LOL

    It just occured to me that nobody's felt moved to respond to my lengthy piece on the future of Allah's gang. Out of all my postings, it's probably the most polished, the most honey-drenched, the most chunky. To what end? To the end chiefly of being unread or, if read, at least ignored. And to the end secondly of squandering time that might have been profitablly channelled into sending hatemail to my wife so we can have angry sex when she returneth.


    Do you think Europe will fall into the hands of "Allah's gang" and there is nothing we can do to stop this because of multiculturalism( sorry I dont know too much about multiculturalism).  Could u explain multiculturalism a bit more?
    "A good man is so hard to find but a hard man is so good to find"
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