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  • Re: Does Atheism Poison Everything?
     Reply #60 - September 27, 2010, 09:29 PM
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  • Re: Does Atheism Poison Everything?
     Reply #61 - September 27, 2010, 09:31 PM
    You couldn't afford it, hun.

    *clicks fingers*
  • Re: Does Atheism Poison Everything?
     Reply #62 - September 27, 2010, 09:33 PM
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  • Re: Does Atheism Poison Everything?
     Reply #63 - September 27, 2010, 09:49 PM
    More than you've got.

  • Re: Does Atheism Poison Everything?
     Reply #64 - September 27, 2010, 11:43 PM
    Quote from: Mount A Bison on September 26, 2010, 02:45 PM
    To my mind, what is commonly known as mystic experience may well fall under the domain of neuroscience. Properly understood, the visions of cosmic rapture might be grounded in the neurological wiring of our contemplative states. Already, science can artifically manipulate the brain to induce kaleidoscopic bursts of colour and fragrance and beauty and sound.

    The mystic calls his forays into the frontiers of conciousness "God", I call mine synaptic firing. Same experience, different name. By what name you choose to call your psychic adventures is wholly contingent on what assumptions you bring to the table cave. Even so, the cathartic agency of meditation is not lost on me.

    I agree.  I am a naturalist too.  I have mentioned on this forum before that I do not believe in anything supernatural at all.  If something can be proven, it would be natural.  If someone wants to believe in an unprovable thing, they are free to do so.  But  I would hate to see people in positions of power basing their political decisions on (supposedly) supernatural beliefs, e.g. a president saying that God told him/her to invade that country, or that liquor stores and nightclubs are banned (as debunker believes) etc.  That's why believing a mystic without requiring proof is a dangerous route to go down, and letting them enter positions of power is even worse.

    And I believe, (as you have eloquently pointed out above), that it's all brain activity.  But for the sake of open-mindedness (as all scientists should be), let's at least give people like z10 a fair hearing. Smiley


    Quote from: Mount A Bison on September 27, 2010, 06:18 AM
    To where has Z10 gone?

    Teapot?

    Thinkfree?

    Has an asteroid struck? If so, can I have the approval of your ghost to bed your girlfriends? Thanks habeebee.

    Well, you can have my girlfriend if you want,  coz you're gonna find that she's as non-existent as the truth of the mystic's claims. grin12
    "Many people would sooner die than think; In fact, they do so." -- Bertrand Russell

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  • Re: Does Atheism Poison Everything?
     Reply #65 - September 28, 2010, 12:01 AM
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  • Re: Does Atheism Poison Everything?
     Reply #66 - September 28, 2010, 07:52 AM
    ^ I have no boyfriend either, my darling. piggy
    "Many people would sooner die than think; In fact, they do so." -- Bertrand Russell

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  • Re: Does Atheism Poison Everything?
     Reply #67 - September 28, 2010, 08:38 AM
    But, you said? Nevermind...  Embarrassed
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     Reply #68 - September 28, 2010, 01:51 PM
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     Reply #69 - September 28, 2010, 01:53 PM
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     Reply #70 - September 28, 2010, 02:02 PM
    Quote from: Mount A Bison on September 28, 2010, 01:53 PM
    Whatcha mean? Please remove any stiff object from your mouth before speaking.

    Sorry my bad.  Ive removed it now.
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  • Re: Does Atheism Poison Everything?
     Reply #71 - September 28, 2010, 03:43 PM
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  • Re: Does Atheism Poison Everything?
     Reply #72 - September 28, 2010, 03:45 PM
    Sometimes I sense Mount a Bison is BlackDog. With a hint of shakespeare.
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

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     Reply #73 - September 28, 2010, 04:18 PM
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  • Re: Does Atheism Poison Everything?
     Reply #74 - September 28, 2010, 04:19 PM
    BlackDog is a legend of CEMB.
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Does Atheism Poison Everything?
     Reply #75 - September 28, 2010, 04:22 PM
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  • Re: Does Atheism Poison Everything?
     Reply #76 - September 28, 2010, 04:24 PM
    Seriously, Blackdog is a very very funny member of CEMB (he's on a 'vacation') who had a similar sense of humour to yours. Similar in the sense that he was very elaborate and would go on these really humourous tangents, ending up telling stories n shit.
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Does Atheism Poison Everything?
     Reply #77 - September 28, 2010, 04:36 PM
    BlackDog is a dumber version of Mount A Bison. he b so dumb in fact that he would appreciate this comment. BD will always be my favourite though - the kid's got heart  yes
    ''we are morally and philisophically in the best position to win the league'' - Arsene Wenger
  • Re: Does Atheism Poison Everything?
     Reply #78 - September 28, 2010, 04:40 PM
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  • Re: Does Atheism Poison Everything?
     Reply #79 - October 11, 2010, 05:21 PM
    Quote from: z10 on September 20, 2010, 10:00 PM
    It is true that neither of these two believed in a classical personal god, but then I never stated they did. The truly religious, from every corner of the earth, never have a personal idea of god, whether it is Spinoza or Bruno or even Rumi or the original Buddha.


    Why not?
  • Re: Does Atheism Poison Everything?
     Reply #80 - October 11, 2010, 05:52 PM
    Quote from: abuyunus2 on September 28, 2010, 04:36 PM
    BlackDog is a dumber version of Mount A Bison. he b so dumb in fact that he would appreciate this comment. BD will always be my favourite though - the kid's got heart  yes


    Fucking asshole/Aaww  001_wub
  • Re: Does Atheism Poison Everything?
     Reply #81 - October 11, 2010, 05:52 PM
    Quote from: Iblis on September 28, 2010, 04:24 PM
    Seriously, Blackdog is a very very funny member of CEMB (he's on a 'vacation') who had a similar sense of humour to yours. Similar in the sense that he was very elaborate and would go on these really humourous tangents, ending up telling stories n shit.


     Cry
  • Re: Does Atheism Poison Everything?
     Reply #82 - October 14, 2010, 01:56 PM
    I think I'm in love with MAB.

    Mount me, mount me now.
  • Re: Does Atheism Poison Everything?
     Reply #83 - October 15, 2010, 09:35 PM
    Quote from: Logical_Mind44 on October 11, 2010, 05:21 PM
    Why not?


    As far as I know, every mystic attempts to avoid any positive, personal description of the transcendent because it can, unknowingly, lead to dogma and empty idolatry. I think Joseph Campbell said it best here: "One's own image of god is the final barrier to reaching god"
    At evening, casual flocks of pigeons make
    Ambiguous undulations as they sink,
    Downward to darkness, on extended wings. - Stevens
  • Re: Does Atheism Poison Everything?
     Reply #84 - October 15, 2010, 11:53 PM
    Quote from: z10 on October 15, 2010, 09:35 PM
    As far as I know, every mystic attempts to avoid any positive, personal description of the transcendent because it can, unknowingly, lead to dogma and empty idolatry. I think Joseph Campbell said it best here: "One's own image of god is the final barrier to reaching god"


    Highly interesting that you say this. I'm wondering which mystic in particular had mentioned this. And that one from Campbell is an excellent quote as well.
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