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  • Jonah/Younus was eaten alive by fish
     OP - September 24, 2010, 03:11 PM

    And he remained alive for 3 days inside that fish..

    I would like to hear from all the Muslims and Christians to validate this fact. Will add my comments after.

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  • Re: Jonah/Younus was eaten alive by fish
     Reply #1 - September 24, 2010, 03:43 PM

    Q. 37:142-5:

    And the fish swallowed him while he was blameworthy; And had he not been one of those who glorify (Allah) He would have tarried in its belly till the day when they are raised; Then We cast him on a desert shore while he was sick.

    There are ahadith that talk about how long he was inside the fish for, but they all give different numbers of days.
  • Re: Jonah/Younus was eaten alive by fish
     Reply #2 - September 24, 2010, 03:58 PM

    Do Muslims claim this story to be literally true or simply metaphorical/allegorical?

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  • Re: Jonah/Younus was eaten alive by fish
     Reply #3 - September 24, 2010, 04:10 PM

    They believe it to be literally true until they receive scientific counter arguments, and at that time it becomes metaphorical. I also argued with a Christian and his explanation was a lot more bizarre then a muslim would do. He just started giving me lecture about moral of the story, which I stopped him right away.
    Zebedee: I think Bible provides number of days too.

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  • Re: Jonah/Younus was eaten alive by fish
     Reply #4 - September 24, 2010, 06:31 PM

    http://dockbillin.multiply.com/journal/item/1586/Jonah_and_the_Big_Fish

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  • Re: Jonah/Younus was eaten alive by fish
     Reply #5 - September 24, 2010, 06:49 PM

    Lol, this was my favourite story when I was a kid. Cheesy You know, they had these Quran stories for kids book series, with colourful illustrations, that my parents bought for us.  Grin

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  • Re: Jonah/Younus was eaten alive by fish
     Reply #6 - September 24, 2010, 07:03 PM

    lol, I have read the prophet stories for kids too.. Cheesy

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  • Re: Jonah/Younus was eaten alive by fish
     Reply #7 - September 24, 2010, 08:10 PM

    some of these silly books are in my house too.  Cry

    i want to throw them away but cant.

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  • Re: Jonah/Younus was eaten alive by fish
     Reply #8 - September 24, 2010, 08:17 PM

    You know, they had these Quran stories for kids book series, with colourful illustrations, that my parents bought for us. 

    A hijabi cousin got a bunch those books for my little sister.

    I've got two right here, one is called "Just For Kids: Quran Stories - A Treasury of Stories from the Quran", and the other "Childrens Stories from the Quran: The Origin of Life Colouring Book".


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  • Re: Jonah/Younus was eaten alive by fish
     Reply #9 - September 24, 2010, 08:36 PM

    I've got two right here, one is called "Just For Kids: Quran Stories - A Treasury of Stories from the Quran", and the other "Childrens Stories from the Quran: The Origin of Life Colouring Book".


    WTF.  Cheesy Cheesy

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  • Re: Jonah/Younus was eaten alive by fish
     Reply #10 - September 24, 2010, 08:55 PM

    On the backcover it says:

    "...Teach your children the story of the origin of life on earth, how Allah created the earth, the sky, the sun, the moon and so on. They will then realize the greatness of Allah and thank Him for His limitless love and mercy for His creatures."

     grin12

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  • Re: Jonah/Younus was eaten alive by fish
     Reply #11 - September 24, 2010, 09:01 PM

     Cheesy Cheesy

    The Origin Of Life -- so do they have to colour naked pictures of Adam and Hawa?   Tongue

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  • Re: Jonah/Younus was eaten alive by fish
     Reply #12 - September 24, 2010, 10:22 PM

    A hijabi cousin got a bunch those books for my little sister.

    I've got two right here, one is called "Just For Kids: Quran Stories - A Treasury of Stories from the Quran", and the other "Childrens Stories from the Quran: The Origin of Life Colouring Book".




    you gotta show your sister the richard dawkins growing up in the universe series. these silly books dont stand a chance.

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  • Re: Jonah/Younus was eaten alive by fish
     Reply #13 - September 25, 2010, 03:30 PM

    "That's a really interesting question. I am dubious myself, however let's look at the facts.

    Firstly, it's said that only a sperm whale has a wide enough throat to swallow a human. However, i didn't find any information on the size of a sperm whale's stomach.

    Whales are related to ruminants. As a result, they have complex stomachs with several chambers. The capacity of a large whale's stomach is supposed to be around 760 litres. An average adult human is probably approximately that size. They would occupy all of that space, in other words. However, suppose they had 760 litres of air available to them. The tidal volume of the lungs in a human, i.e. the amount breathed in and out in normal respiration, is half a litre. Therefore, 760 litres is enough for 1520 normal breaths, assuming Jonah was both conscious and calm, maybe because he was at peace with God even though he'd been swallowed by a whale or maybe because of that - awareness of God's providence. The resting respiratory rate is around 14 breaths a minute. Therefore, there's potentially enough air in a whale's stomach for up to about two hours, and it would get pretty stuffy in there after a while!

    There is another consideration though. Some time last year, someone fell off a mountain and went into a hibernatory state where they used up less oxygen and water than in normal sleep, a state previously unknown to science. There's also meditation, and that's particularly interesting because it calls to mind the image of a meditative Jonah at prayer, surviving longer because he was in that state. We also don't know how big he was - a smaller person would presumably live longer.

    OK, so hydrochloric acid. Whale stomachs may contain the horny beaks of giant squid, and their intestines produce a protective amber-like secretion stimulated by an irritant. I would say Jonah could be an irritant, and he could be protected from the acid by horny armour or by getting covered in ambergris.

    So, what have we got? Jonah, wearing armour made from horn, gets swallowed by a whale with a serious case of wind and goes into a hibernation-like meditative prayer state as a result of recognising God's providence, then gets covered in ambergris and vomited up on a beach somewhere. Hey, it could happen! Or maybe he was just some kind of giant lizard, i dunno."

    thats off yahoo answers i found it intresting ..

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  • Re: Jonah/Younus was eaten alive by fish
     Reply #14 - September 25, 2010, 03:39 PM

    accually some aspect are abit wrong assuming a whale's stomach is 760 litres making 760 litres of air avalible.... if a mass was takin in it should substitute that "air" ... giving less amount of air for survival ...

    amber for irritants protecting against HCL/enzymes ... is also abit flawed as younus would not count as an irritant but as food .. his bones after digestion might count as irritants .. saying this i will still have to add that i have done no research to support "what is considered as an irritant to a whale's stomach" or any that would give me power to dimiss the yahoo's answers claim.....   Smiley

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  • Re: Jonah/Younus was eaten alive by fish
     Reply #15 - September 27, 2010, 06:51 PM

    There is no friggin way he could have survived for a few minutes, let alone 3 days. Unless he stayed in the esophagus of the fish (in that case, fish would have choked to death), he would have gone to mechanical stomach. Which would have beat him to death within few minutes. And after getting crushed, he would have gone to chemical stomach and got decomposed.

    Have you ever seen eating a tiny tablet (not too hard) and vomiting it out in same form??

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