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 Topic: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series

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  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #150 - October 04, 2010, 06:01 AM

    Lol reminds me of when I do something good and some one says I had Christ like behavior.  That is a much bullshit as saying Islam like behavior.

    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
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    Just kidding, here are some true heros
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  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #151 - October 04, 2010, 06:29 AM

    Quote from: IsLame
    But how do we distinguish that your not a potential rapist because youve got a penis?


    The mere possession by myself of said appendage does not provide sufficient information about the potential rape threat that I pose. Now supposing I belonged to a cult with a "holy book" that ordained random rape for its male members ('scuse the pun) on pain of hell. Suppose a few of those cult members followed this order avidly and wherever the cult established itself there was a huge rise in the number of rapes. Supposing I, a cult member, was interviewed on the TV and stated that that those members of my cult arrested for rape were not following the true teachings of the cult which in fact advocated respect for women. Would you believe me? That is the proper comparison to make.

    Quote
    Id like to know what % of muslims would you guess have read the Quran (ignoring hadith where things like taqqiya are covered) in a language that they understand?


    In countries with a high degree of literacy it would be reasonable to suppose that most Muslims have studied that book to some degree. That will mean Arabic in high literacy countries where Arabic is the first language.

    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #152 - October 04, 2010, 06:33 AM

    Lol reminds me of when I do something good and some one says I had Christ like behavior.  That is a much bullshit as saying Islam like behavior.


    Would you say the following is written by a Muslim or an ex one:

    "LOL ali sina ur a stupid fuck! its like saying ban judaism because they killed jesus christ! go blow ur dad u iranian piece of shit! go to hell sucker!" SOURCE


    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #153 - October 04, 2010, 07:24 AM

    Indeed Ishna's inability to distinguish between CAUSE and EFFECT in such matters could itself be described as ISLAMESQUE.



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  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #154 - October 04, 2010, 08:54 AM

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    In countries with a high degree of literacy it would be reasonable to suppose that most Muslims have studied that book to some degree. That will mean Arabic in high literacy countries where Arabic is the first language.

    I asked for a % that had read it all in a language that they understand.  You didnt answer the question,

    . Supposing I, a cult member, was interviewed on the TV and stated that that those members of my cult arrested for rape were not following the true teachings of the cult which in fact advocated respect for women. Would you believe me?

    Forum protocol is to answer questions then ask your own. 

    Quote
    That is the proper comparison to make.

    Either way answer the question.  I am trying to indicate here how the way you word questions can lead to very biased answer in another context, (and how underhand & sneaky it can be).

    So I'll ask it a different way; with no other information at hand, could you potentially be a paedophile?

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  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #155 - October 04, 2010, 02:09 PM

    Quote from: Islame
    I asked for a % that had read it all in a language that they understand.  You didnt answer the question,


    The only figure I can find for the number of Muslims who have read the Qur'an period is 13%. I'll happily go with that unless you want to suggest a lower figure.

    Quote
    Forum protocol is to answer questions then ask your own.


    You asked:
    Quote
    But how do we distinguish that your not a potential rapist because youve got a penis?


    I replied:
    Quote
    The mere possession by myself of said appendage does not provide sufficient information about the potential rape threat that I pose.


    In other words you are making a logically fallacious comparison. You have NO reasonable grounds to suspect that a randomly chosen man is a potential rapist simply because he has a penis. Moreover, there is no evidence to back any supposition that most men would commit rape if they thought they could get away with it. By contrast you have strong grounds to suspect that a randomly chosen BNP member is a racist for no other reason than they are a member of the BNP. If a BNP member states that the party they belong to is no longer racist you have reasonable grounds to suspect them of lying given the party's history. Likewise, mere membership of Islam is reasonable grounds to suspect someone of at least sympathizing with those who actively pursue jihad and sharia implementation, which are inherent components of the movements core ideology - and suspecting them of lying if they claim that the Koran actually teaches democracy, peace, love and universal brotherhood of all people regardless of their creed or lack thereof.

    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #156 - October 04, 2010, 02:11 PM

    Quote from: "Ishina"


    You're leaving this forum then?

    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #157 - October 04, 2010, 02:15 PM

    Did you eat a bowl of stupid for breakfast?

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #158 - October 04, 2010, 02:28 PM

    Well she hasn't really MaB (nailed me).

     What man, not mentally defective, would object to being nailed by Ishina? Don't be a silly goose. Rumour is that her face is awfully plain looking, but her body is to die for. Observe how she glides so gracefully, so elegantly, so like a woman gripped by the promptings of the flesh. To be mounted by Her Excellency is to be kissed by the high gods. Let the pretty young thing leap on my hairy back any day of the week. But of course she won't the little tease. My false teeth would come loose. Take it from an older fellow young chap: foolish is the man who refuses her advances.

    These are recent gentle retorts after months of unfounded accusations of racism, neo-Nazi affiliations  and general Muslim-like abuse directed against me by the likes of Q-man (which individual has also taken to PMing me and seemingly challenging me to fights) .

    LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

    Pay no mind to that rakish scoundrel. He's just flirting with you. I get abusive missives all the time. It's just his way of saying: Hey hot pants, want a back rub?

    You obviously need to observe my writings and those of Spencer a little more closely. Or, if I have missed Spencer's statements calling for Iran to be nuked , please point them out to me.

    Spencer is an irredeemable vulgarian who traffics in crazed right-wing circles like Pamela-Obama-is-a-Muslim-Geller's. I didn't cast off one reactionary creed to embrace another. Ditto the mountebanks who frequent sites like FFI. To venture there is to have one's brain surgically removed, to fall in with a lot of cachinnating, caterwauling, cat's-paw clawing conservative cranks.
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #159 - October 04, 2010, 02:39 PM

    Did you eat a bowl of stupid for breakfast?


    Oh I seeeeee. You meant it was time for MEEEEEEE to stop posting and not YOOOOOU!

    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #160 - October 04, 2010, 02:43 PM

    Quote from: "Mount A Bison"
    What man, not mentally defective, would object to being nailed by Ishina?


    No  objection at all if nailed me is what she could honestly be said to have done. Re-read the statements of mine she listed less superficially and it will become apparent that I am not accusing people of being crypto Muslims. Just pointing out that they retain certain propensities in behavior and response to various stimulii from their days as Muslims. A perfectly valid observation.

    I have no comment on your views relating to Q-man.

    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #161 - October 04, 2010, 02:46 PM

    Quote from: "Mount A Bison"
    Spencer is an irredeemable vulgarian who traffics in crazed right-wing circles like Pamela-Obama-is-a-Muslim-Geller's.


    He hasn't actually advocated "nuking" Iran though has he?

    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #162 - October 04, 2010, 03:00 PM

    Disgusting, you spend your time here & promote FFI - change it at once or I shall mount you like a bison in the mating season, armed with a rod as stiff as steel. 

    Steady, I might like that. I linked to the FFI website in what must now be a hundred years ago. Never posted there, never will. Consult my last post for why.

    As much as I dislike FFI - I rather like MaB - at least he is happy to quaff a pint or two, kick his shoes off and and play naked wrestling with the guys and gals here  grin12

    Check your PM. But make sure no kids are about when you do. Nekkid material.
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #163 - October 04, 2010, 03:07 PM

    Steady, I might like that. I linked to the FFI website in what must now be a hundred years ago. Never posted there, never will. Consult my last post for why.

    Oh, I see.  Coolio.  You are one of us then. parrot

    "Many people would sooner die than think; In fact, they do so." -- Bertrand Russell

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  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #164 - October 04, 2010, 03:16 PM

    Just pointing out that they retain certain propensities in behavior and response to various stimulii from their days as Muslims.


    Ahh yes, that well known Muslim propensity of disagreeing with you and thinking you're full of shit. Because fully domesticated and westernised former Muslims would understand where you were coming from and agree with you completely, right? I think the problem might be down to having those silly rags tied too tightly around their heads for extended periods of time, and the withdrawal symptoms of being away from their natural desert habitat.

    You might be pleased to know I have not worn a rag on my head for quite a few years now, and only occasionally get the urge to wrap my head up in a towel. I have controlled the urges in various ways, like the occasional scarf, sometimes a beanie hat in the winter. Sometimes I get flashbacks when I dry my hair after a shower, but they pass.

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #165 - October 04, 2010, 03:29 PM

    Quote from: Ishina
    Ahh yes, that well known Muslim propensity of disagreeing with you and thinking you're full of shit.


    Not disagreeing with me but resorting to such popular terms that Muslims commonly use against their detractors as "you're full of shit".

    Quote
    Because fully domesticated and westernised former Muslims would understand where you were coming from and agree with you completely, right?


    No but they might at the least present reasoned counter arguments to positions I take rather than seek to bury them in a hail of mud.

    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #166 - October 04, 2010, 03:35 PM

    Ok I give in, I'm gonna take an interest here, but I can't be arsed going through your posts. What is(/are) your point(s) - briefly? I mean in general, why are you on this forum?
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #167 - October 04, 2010, 03:38 PM

    Not disagreeing with me but resorting to such popular terms that Muslims commonly use against their detractors as "you're full of shit".


    Ahh yes, that well know Muslim phraise "you're full of shit". Could be another throwback from the desert. Maybe camels have something to do with it.

    No but they might at the least present reasoned counter arguments to positions I take rather than seek to bury them in a hail of mud.


    Ahh yes, that well known Muslim tendency to throw mud instead of seeing the profound wisdom of philosophers like you and treating it with the merit it deserves. The savage in them is always just under the surface, isn’t it?

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #168 - October 04, 2010, 03:45 PM

    @DH and Ishina

    You two would make a cute couple  001_wub
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #169 - October 04, 2010, 04:33 PM

    Quote
    Ahh yes, that well know Muslim phraise "you're full of shit". Could be another throwback from the desert. Maybe camels have something to do with it.


     Cheesy

    That reminds me, I must start the JOTM and POTM polls later.

    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #170 - October 05, 2010, 04:59 AM

    If people really still do not understand what I mean by Muslimesque language here is another example of the way Muslims have an above average tendency to address their detractors:

    YOU SON OF A BITCH . YOUR MOTHER WAS A C**K-SUCKING WHORE . ... U FILTHY C**K-SUCKER HAVE A NICE DAY" -- SOURCE

    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #171 - October 05, 2010, 05:27 AM

    Ahh yes, that well known Muslim-specific characteristic of swearing. Truly a Muslim innovation. The ‘insult’, as a concept, is quintessential Islam. And what one phrase could define 'Muslimesque' language as succinctly as “YOU SON OF A BITCH” No more is needed to illustrate the point. I'm surprised nobody else has mapped out the connection between this phraise and Islam before you. You are truly a pioneer, decades ahead of your time.

    I’m glad we have you here, DH - the only intelligent objector in a world full of sheep, punching keys in your ivory tower HQ and informing people one gem of wisdom at a time. Your posts are both interesting and informative. Do you have a newsletter I could subscribe to?

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #172 - October 05, 2010, 05:27 AM

    Ok I give in, I'm gonna take an interest here, but I can't be arsed going through your posts. What is(/are) your point(s) - briefly? I mean in general, why are you on this forum?


    If you are talking to me, I am on this forum to take issue with positions expressed here that I disagree with and which I think, if accepted by the general non-Muslim public, would adversely affect our ability to  effectively counter the sharia-jihad menace eg the opposition to the opposition to the ground-zero mosque.

    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #173 - October 05, 2010, 05:31 AM

    Quote from: "Ishina"
    Ahh yes, that well known Muslim-specific characteristic of swearing. Truly a Muslim innovation. The ‘insult’, as a concept, is quintessential Islam. And what one phrase could define 'Muslimesque' language as succinctly as “YOU SON OF A BITCH”


    Not a Muslim innovation but resorted to by Muslims to an unusual degree when they and/or their religion are criticized. That is a fact I am afraid whether you want to acknowledge it or not.

    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #174 - October 05, 2010, 05:37 AM

    I agree with you. I acknowledge it. I understand now that it is the residual Muslim in me that causes me to think you're full of shit and call you names while pointing and laughing at you. I am glad you brought this to my attention so that I can find ways of suppressing this lingering tendency, and possibly, eventually, ridding myself of it entirely, so that the true wisdom of your words shines unclouded by my own flaws.

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #175 - October 05, 2010, 06:50 AM

    Reading your intro blurb, Ishina, I wouldn't actually say you were ever a "true believer" at heart, although the predilection of your devout nominal coreligionists for abusive language has clearly left its mark on you.

    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #176 - October 05, 2010, 07:09 AM

    You truly have a gift with people. I feel exposed, yet, strangely... safe. I feel like I could tell you anything. Its like we have this strange connection. Don't you feel it too?

    Your wisdom runs deep, yet you think nothing of making yourself available to the common man and woman. In the days I've known you, I've been constantly grateful that you so often break away from your tedious labours on humanity's behalf to reach out to this poor wretch, who so desperately longs for the cool touch of your soothing insight.

    Never before has anyone grasped at the core of my troubled soul as deftly as you. Your spot on evaluation just now gives me renewed hope. You truly understand my heart of hearts. Maybe others will too, if only they had a fraction of your keen perception.

    Dammit DH, I'm just gonna say it... I love you.

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #177 - October 05, 2010, 10:35 AM

     Cheesy This is awesome. Carry on. popcorn

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  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #178 - October 05, 2010, 10:38 AM

    You truly have a gift with people. I feel exposed, yet, strangely... safe. I feel like I could tell you anything. Its like we have this strange connection. Don't you feel it too?

    Your wisdom runs deep, yet you think nothing of making yourself available to the common man and woman. In the days I've known you, I've been constantly grateful that you so often break away from your tedious labours on humanity's behalf to reach out to this poor wretch, who so desperately longs for the cool touch of your soothing insight.

    Never before has anyone grasped at the core of my troubled soul as deftly as you. Your spot on evaluation just now gives me renewed hope. You truly understand my heart of hearts. Maybe others will too, if only they had a fraction of your keen perception.

    Dammit DH, I'm just gonna say it... I love you.


     Grin


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #179 - October 05, 2010, 11:18 AM

    Reading your intro blurb, Ishina, I wouldn't actually say you were ever a "true believer" at heart, although the predilection of your devout nominal coreligionists for abusive language has clearly left its mark on you.


    Knave! Drone! Sasquatch!

    You dance to the notes of the boogyman’s flute.  Step left little child step right. Do the little twist. Shake those itty hips. Oh you love his flute.

    I fear you suffer from an Islamic Munchausen syndrome. You’re afraid of shadows, they remind you of niqabis. Perhaps you even nip at the loose ends of their garments, snarl and spit, bite and growl but run and cower in fear when they shake their legs at you? Oh my dear you are a Jack Russell Terrier.

    I feel terrible for your parents. What have they done to suffer the torment of your birth?
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