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 Topic: Allah's Doomed Slaves

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  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #90 - October 06, 2010, 07:20 PM

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    tried to have Pope Pius kidnapped and assassinated.

    That was because he wanted to increase his power

    Hitler was not Lutheran. He was raised in the Catholic Church but turned back on Christianity

    Where/when did he say he turned his back on Christianty?

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  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #91 - October 06, 2010, 07:22 PM

    @QueenIsabel

    Oh, I see. So it looks like it's something of a mix between Catholicism and other kinds of Protestantism.


    Yup. We also have Crucifixes which most Protestants have an aversion to.
  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #92 - October 06, 2010, 07:28 PM

    That was because he wanted to increase his power
    Where/when did he say he turned his back on Christianty?


    The Pope is the head of the Catholic and is revered by Catholics. No good Catholic would ever go after the head of the Catholic Church.

    1. He engaged in Occultic practices which the Church has condemned
    2. He went after Church organizations, Christian newspapers, and closed Churches.
    3. He tried to replace Christianity with his own brand of religion where he is worshipped

     
  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #93 - October 06, 2010, 07:32 PM

    Close. Through faith, Scripture, and by God's grace along with good works a person can be saved and go to heaven.


    I thought you were Lutheran? Works have nothing to with your belief, right? Isn't salvation through good works the main Catholic tenet you guys renounced when you broke away?

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  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #94 - October 06, 2010, 07:33 PM

    Yup. We also have Crucifixes which most Protestants have an aversion to.

    Do you light your candle at the foot of the Cross? That's what my partner does. The daft woman tried to conscript me as well by setting my daughter Hannah to guilt trip me into it but I fought her off manfully as may be seen from here:

    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=12456.msg346788#msg346788
  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #95 - October 06, 2010, 07:39 PM

    The Pope is the head of the Catholic and is revered by Catholics. No good Catholic would ever go after the head of the Catholic Church.

    1. He engaged in Occultic practices which the Church has condemned

    Such as?

    Quote
    2. He went after Church organizations, Christian newspapers, and closed Churches.

    OK,  he did not follow mainstream Chistianity

    Quote
    3. He tried to replace Christianity with his own brand of religion where he is worshipped

    which was?

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  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #96 - October 06, 2010, 07:51 PM

    Hitler was at best a cultural Catholic and never a serious one.  The international nature of the Catholic church for one went against his ideological principles.  The true religion of Hitler was National Socialism.  He did not like Christianity either, preferring other religions that glorified martyrdom for the cause. Obviously given that quite a lot of his followers were Catholics he befriended the Catholic church to prevent agitation.   

    The Croat priest who ran that concentration camp for Serbs is a far more damning association for Catholicism.

    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

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  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #97 - October 06, 2010, 07:51 PM

    @IsLame

    Just what are you trying to prove you anti-Catholic scoundrel? If Hitler was the Pope's catamite, what of it? Absurd is the man who can't appreciate the tradition encrusted faith of the Roman Church to whom the greatest artists, ancient and modern, have erected enduring artistic monuments. Step forward Michelangelo and Leonardo da Vinci.

    Name one contribution to art made by the murtadeen. Desist from your imbecility or I will mount you like a ... what?
  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #98 - October 06, 2010, 07:59 PM

    Absurd is the man who can't appreciate the tradition encrusted faith of the Roman Church to whom the greatest artists, ancient and modern, have erected enduring artistic monuments. Step forward Michelangelo and Leonardo da Vinci.


    Yeah, nothing to do with the fact that the Church commissioned the work and artists had to eat.

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  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #99 - October 06, 2010, 08:03 PM

    Absurd is the man who can't appreciate the tradition encrusted faith of the Roman Church to whom the greatest artists, ancient and modern, have erected enduring artistic monuments. .

    Name one contribution to art made by the murtadeen. Desist from your imbecility or I will mount you like a ... what?


    Aye seconded,  I feel lucky that background is Catholic because of that.  The Catholic faith always involved erecting things, builders erected cathedrals, sculptures magnificent statues of saints and holy Virgins.   Its priests through out the ages have erected things of a rather different nature in the presence of the young.  All left enduring legacies.

    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

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  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #100 - October 06, 2010, 08:11 PM

    Just what are you trying to prove you anti-Catholic scoundrel?

    Nothing, I am just interested in a chrisitians view thats all - whatever he was I think its a strawman and doesnt necessarily indite whatever he chose to believe in (unless it can be shown he was following it properly)

    The international nature of the Catholic church for one went against his ideological principles.  The true religion of Hitler was National Socialism.  He did not like Christianity either, preferring other religions that glorified martyrdom for the cause. Obviously given that quite a lot of his followers were Catholics he befriended the Catholic church to prevent agitation.  

    I am trying to get an idea of if whether he believed in God and Jesus, and what motivated him to do what he did..

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  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #101 - October 06, 2010, 08:24 PM

    Yeah, nothing to do with the fact that the Church commissioned the work and artists had to eat.

    We are all of us abject wage slaves my lovely. Consider that in order to feed my famished children I have to offer my labour to a college full of a generation of little catamaran ingrates who wear purposely torn jeans that remind one of the orphans from the backwaters of Absurdistan. For this I should swing my feet out of bed? All men contract their talents, their genius, their toil to some ephemeral end. Except perhaps the harlot who gets paid for spreading a little sunshine. In every century, out of the maddening crowd rises a class of men devoted to the true, the good and the beautiful. Such were the pious men of Rome who laboured to enrich the human experiment.

    But the merchants of Irreligion, of what use have they been to humanity? Anti-Catholic bigots. I will mount you.
  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #102 - October 06, 2010, 08:27 PM

    I am trying to get an idea of if whether he believed in God and Jesus, and what motivated him to do what he did..


    "I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord's work."
    ~ Adolph Hitler, Speech, Reichstag, 1936

    "My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly, it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people. And when I look on my people I see them work and work and toil and labor, and at the end of the week they have only for their wages wretchedness and misery. When I go out in the morning and see these men standing in their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very devil, if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand years ago, turn against those by whom today this poor people are plundered and exposed."
    ~ Adolf Hitler, speech in Munich on April 12, 1922, countering a political opponent, Count Lerchenfeld, who opposed antisemitism on his personal Christian feelings.

    "And the founder of Christianity made no secret indeed of his estimation of the Jewish people. When He found it necessary, He drove those enemies of the human race out of the Temple of God."
    ~ Adolph Hitler, Mein Kampf

    "The best characterization is provided by the product of this religious education, the Jew himself. His life is only of this world, and his spirit is inwardly as alien to true Christianity as his nature two thousand years previous was to the great founder of the new doctrine. Of course, the latter made no secret of his attitude toward the Jewish people, and when necessary he even took the whip to drive from the temple of the Lord this adversary of all humanity, who then as always saw in religion nothing but an instrument for his business existence. In return, Christ was nailed to the cross, while our present-day party Christians debase themselves to begging for Jewish votes at elections and later try to arrange political swindles with atheistic Jewish parties-- and this against their own nation."
    ~ Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf

    "I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so"
    ~ Adolph Hitler, to Gen. Gerhard Engel, 1941

    More Here


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  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #103 - October 06, 2010, 08:29 PM

    I thought you were Lutheran? Works have nothing to with your belief, right? Isn't salvation through good works the main Catholic tenet you guys renounced when you broke away?


    Here is a statement by Luther on good works:

     
    Quote
    As an apple tree makes fruit and the fruit does not make an apple tree, so works do not make a Christian, but a Christian does good works.


    Basically if a person's faith and acceptance of Jesus Christ is genuine it will lead them to produce good fruit, it will lead the person to do good works.

    To be honest I don't see how this is different from what Catholicism says.
  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #104 - October 06, 2010, 08:29 PM

    Aye seconded,  I feel lucky that background is Catholic because of that.  The Catholic faith always involved erecting things, builders erected cathedrals, sculptures magnificent statues of saints and holy Virgins.   Its priests through out the ages have erected things of a rather different nature in the presence of the young.  All left enduring legacies.

    Are you a lapsed Catholic? Charming. Tell us more.

    Speaking personally, I would rather be mounted by a man of God than a drunken, tattooed murtad with an IQ south of ten. And you?
  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #105 - October 06, 2010, 08:31 PM

    But the merchants of Irreligion, of what use have they been to humanity?


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pfwY2TNehw

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpjUHUGDk2Y

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZuTnx-dkKM

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  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #106 - October 06, 2010, 08:33 PM

    Do you light your candle at the foot of the Cross? That's what my partner does. The daft woman tried to conscript me as well by setting my daughter Hannah to guilt trip me into it but I fought her off manfully as may be seen from here:

    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=12456.msg346788#msg346788


    No we don't light candles at the foot of the cross.

    The only candles that are lit are the ones at the alter during Church service.
  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #107 - October 06, 2010, 08:35 PM

    Here is a statement by Luther on good works:

     
    Basically if a person's faith and acceptance of Jesus Christ is genuine it will lead them to produce good fruit, it will lead the person to do good works.

    To be honest I don't see how this is different from what Catholicism says.


    That isn't what I asked.

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  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #108 - October 06, 2010, 08:39 PM

    @Ishina

    What schoolboy doesn't know that Sagan was a closet Catholic? Quit lying about the dead you dementingly sexy tease. I won't ask you again.
  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #109 - October 06, 2010, 08:41 PM

    No we don't light candles at the foot of the cross.

    The only candles that are lit are the ones at the alter

    If I give you her number, will you tell my wife to stop trying to burn down our house with her stupid candles? For your services to me I will send you my nekkid photos. But cover your eyes my lovely, I'm blindingly ugly.
  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #110 - October 06, 2010, 08:48 PM

    Such as?
    OK,  he did not follow mainstream Chistianity
    which was?


    He got his view on Aryanism from Madam Blavatsky's The Secret Doctrine. He was a member of the Thule Group. The Thule Group members were Satanists and admirers of Aleister  Crowley.

    On Hitler's attempt to replace Christianity with his own religion:

    http://www.adelaideinstitute.org/HomePage28April2009/a_new-religion_09.htm

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Nazi_Germany

    Hitler viewed Christianity as a foreign religion and wanted to bring Germany back to it's pagan roots and combine it with Nazi ideology.






  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #111 - October 06, 2010, 08:49 PM


    I am trying to get an idea of if whether he believed in God and Jesus, and what motivated him to do what he did..


    He definitely believed in a god.  Sheer conviction that he knew of the only alternative way of life, love for his so called aryan ideals and the Aryan race and the fact that he thought that he was going to herald something epic motivated him among other things.  The Catholic church helped indirectly by teaching Germans throughout the centuries that the Jews killed Christ.

    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

    One very horny Turk I met on the net.
  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #112 - October 06, 2010, 08:50 PM

    Are people ignoring my Hitler quotes or what?

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  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #113 - October 06, 2010, 08:52 PM

    ^ No darling, we just think you are full of it.
  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #114 - October 06, 2010, 08:55 PM

    That isn't what I asked.


    Let me put it this way: If someone says they believe in Christ while committing murder, I don't believe they will get into heaven.
  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #115 - October 06, 2010, 08:58 PM

    If I give you her number, will you tell my wife to stop trying to burn down our house with her stupid candles? For your services to me I will send you my nekkid photos. But cover your eyes my lovely, I'm blindingly ugly.


    I might not be a good person to talk to your wife because I light up a few candles in the house. Does she light them in every room?
  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #116 - October 06, 2010, 08:58 PM

    He definitely believed in a god.  

    What of it you catamite? Across the globe nations of men genuflect to the Cosmic Daddy (as right they should). Do you know what a non sequitur is my lovely?
  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #117 - October 06, 2010, 08:58 PM

    Are you a lapsed Catholic? Charming. Tell us more.

    Speaking personally, I would rather be mounted by a man of God than a drunken, tattooed murtad with an IQ south of ten. And you?


    Truth is Catholicism and religion never quite impressed me, being Maltese I'm quite familiar with the antics of the Church and its devout.  As for the other question, not sure I fancy being mounted by anyone, however the thought of a pious tight frocked nun whipping my hide does make me quiver with anticipation.

    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

    One very horny Turk I met on the net.
  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #118 - October 06, 2010, 09:02 PM

    What of it you catamite? Across the globe nations of men genuflect to the Cosmic Daddy (as right they should). Do you know what a non sequitur is my lovely?



    Aye, I also know that it does not apply in the case too as I was answering Islame's question.  Unless I'm too dimwitted to realise that you are taking the mickey even now.

    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

    One very horny Turk I met on the net.
  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #119 - October 06, 2010, 09:03 PM

    ^ No darling, we just think you are full of it.


    Here Adeimantus interposed and said: "To these statements, Socrates, no one can offer a reply; but when you talk in this way, a strange feeling passes over the minds of your hearers: They fancy that they are led astray a little at each step in the argument, owing to their own want of skill in asking and answering questions; these littles accumulate, and at the end of the discussion they are found to have sustained a mighty overthrow and all their former notions appear to be turned upside down. And as unskilful players of draughts are at last shut up by their more skilful adversaries and have no piece to move, so they too find themselves shut up at last; for they have nothing to say in this new game of which words are the counters; and yet all the time they are in the right. The observation is suggested to me by what is now occurring. For any one of us might say, that although in words he is not able to meet you at each step of the argument, he sees as a fact that the votaries of philosophy, when they carry on the study, not only in youth as a part of education, but as the pursuit of their maturer years, most of them become strange monsters, not to say utter rogues, and that those who may be considered the best of them are made useless to the world by the very study which you extol. Well, and do you think that those who say so are wrong?"

    Socrates said: "YOU'RE A FUCKING ASSHOLE."

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