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  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #120 - October 06, 2010, 09:05 PM

    Let me put it this way: If someone says they believe in Christ while committing murder, I don't believe they will get into heaven.


    If you are unable or unwilling to answer, just say so Smiley

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #121 - October 06, 2010, 09:05 PM

    I might not be a good person to talk to your wife because I light up a few candles in the house. Does she light them in every room?

    Ten a room. Don't get me wrong. I get the same urge to light the place up with ten thousand twinkling lights when autumn arrives. Ahh, the pull of autumn. To any romantic all the noonday brightness of summer, all the blossoms of spring, all the dewy snow of winter cannot match the boundless joy of the  first glimpse of crimson leaves everywhere bestrewn, their oak trees slowly disrobed of their adornment one by leafy one like a tantalising striptease. The only season when a whiskey-swillin', cigar-puffin', skirt-chasin' roaring gallant may safely get out the fragrant candles from the kitchen cupboard without drawing suspicion of harbouring an effeminate nature.

    But this chit goes too far when it shows me up in front of my buddies. What shall I do?
  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #122 - October 06, 2010, 09:09 PM

    Quote
    Mount a Bison


    Ten a room. Don't get me wrong. I get the same urge to light the place up with ten thousand twinkling lights when autumn arrives. Ahh, the pull of autumn. To any romantic all the noonday brightness of summer, all the blossoms of spring, all the dewy snow of winter cannot match the boundless joy of the  first glimpse of crimson leaves everywhere bestrewn, their oak trees slowly disrobed of their adornment one by leafy one like a tantalising striptease. The only season when a whiskey-swillin', cigar-puffin', skirt-chasin' roaring gallant may safely get out the fragrant candles from the kitchen cupboard without drawing suspicion of harbouring an effeminate nature.

    But this chit goes too far when it shows me up in front of my buddies. What shall I do?


    Ten a room? I hope they are not scented candles. Tell her one or two candles a room is enough.
  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #123 - October 06, 2010, 09:10 PM

    @Ishina

    You read Plato? Marvels never cease. I never give my head to such ugly matters. It's ungodly, unTurkish, unlike the rugged frontiersmen of my native country about whom legend has it that the reason they wear flowing robes is 'cause sheep can hear a zipper from a mile away.
  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #124 - October 06, 2010, 09:12 PM

    Are people ignoring my Hitler quotes or what?


    Please read this article : http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/facts/fm0110.htm

                 
    Was Hitler a Christian
    Dinesh d´Souza

    Excerpts :

    Quote
    Christopher Hitchens in God Is Not Great depicts Hitler as a pagan polytheist -- not exactly a conventional theist but still a theist. Atheist websites routinely claim that Hitler was a Christian because he was born Catholic, he never publicly renounced his Catholicism, and he wrote in Mein Kampf, "By defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."


    Quote
    How persuasive are these claims? My New York Times bestseller What's So Great About Christianity has the full story and the requisite citations but here's the condensed version. Hitler was born Catholic just as Stalin was born into the Russian Orthodox Church and Mao was raised as a Buddhist. These facts prove nothing as many people reject their religious upbringing, as these three men did. From an early age, historian Allan Bullock writes, Hitler "had no time at all for Catholic teaching, regarding it as a religion fit only for slaves and detesting its ethics."


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    How then do we account for Hitler's claim that in carrying out his anti-Semitic program he was an instrument of divine providence? During his ascent to power, Hitler needed the support of the German people -- both the Bavarian Catholics and the Prussian Lutherans -- and to secure this he occasionally used rhetoric such as "I am doing the Lord's work." To claim that this rhetoric makes Hitler a Christian is to confuse political opportunism with personal conviction. Hitler himself says in Mein Kampf that his public statements should be understood as propaganda that bears no relation to the truth but is designed to sway the masses.


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    Hitler's Table Talk, a revealing collection of the Fuhrer's private opinions, assembled by a close aide during the war years, shows Hitler to be rabidly anti-religious. He called Christianity one of the great "scourges" of history, and said of the Germans, "Let's be the only people who are immunized against this disease." He promised that "through the peasantry we shall be able to destroy Christianity." In fact, he blamed the Jews for inventing Christianity. He also condemned Christianity for its opposition to evolution.


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    In his multi-volume history of the Third Reich, historian Richard Evans writes that "the Nazis regarded the churches as the strongest and toughest reservoirs of ideological opposition to the principles they believed in." Once Hitler and the Nazis came to power, they launched a ruthless drive to subdue and weaken the Christian churches in Germany. Evans points out that after 1937 the policies of Hitler's government became increasingly anti-religious.

    The Nazis stopped celebrating Christmas, and the Hitler Youth recited a prayer thanking the Fuhrer rather than God for their blessings. Clergy regarded as "troublemakers" were ordered not to preach, hundreds of them were imprisoned, and many were simply murdered. Churches were under constant Gestapo surveillance. The Nazis closed religious schools, forced Christian organizations to disband, dismissed civil servants who were practicing Christians, confiscated church property, and censored religious newspapers



    Like a compass needle that points north, a man?s accusing finger always finds a woman. Always.

    Khaled Hosseini - A thousand splendid suns.
  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #125 - October 06, 2010, 09:13 PM

    Ten a room? I hope they are not scented candles. Tell her one or two candles a room is enough.

    Give me your number so I can pass on your timeless wisdom to Her Excellency. I promise I won't send my nekkid pictures unless you explicitly request them. I'm a God fearing man.
  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #126 - October 06, 2010, 09:16 PM

    @Paloma

    d´Souza?

    Really?

    When I am dictator, I propose to drag the rascal to the sewage plant and hurl him in, but I fear he may contaminate the sewage.
  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #127 - October 06, 2010, 09:19 PM



    Dinesh D'Souza? LMAO! Seriously?

    Another except:

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    In an earlier blog, I asked what is atheism's contribution to civilization? One answer to that question: Genocide.


    Wait... what? That's almost funny.

    Don't ever post Dinesh D'Souza in my presence again.

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #128 - October 06, 2010, 09:25 PM

    Give me your number so I can pass on your timeless wisdom to Her Excellency. I promise I won't send my nekkid pictures unless you explicitly request them. I'm a God fearing man.


    lol

    You can just give her my email address and I will give her my timeless wisdom.
  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #129 - October 06, 2010, 09:38 PM

    @poloma

    according to wiki:


    Quote
    D'Souza is a noted Christian apologist and conservative writer and speaker. He is the author of numerous New York Times best selling books. He was born and raised Roman Catholic, but now considers himself an Evangelical Christian.


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  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #130 - October 06, 2010, 09:54 PM

    You can just give her my email address and I will give her my timeless wisdom.

    The lass won't believe that's it really a Christian woman until she hears your soft words full of magical incantations in her ear. Prepare something incontestably Lutheran so there can be no doubt. Jiggle your tits on the webcam a little. The woman is a true cynic . Please help me stop her craziness, or she'll burn the house down, and with it my famished little kids.
  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #131 - October 06, 2010, 10:08 PM

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    Mount a Bison

    The lass won't believe that's it really a Christian woman until she hears your soft words full of magical incantations in her ear. Prepare something incontestably Lutheran so there can be no doubt. Jiggle your tits on the webcam a little. The woman is a true cynic . Please help me stop her craziness, or she'll burn the house down, and with it my famished little kids.


    lol

    She can listen to my voice on google talk or yahoomessenger.

    Behave yourself you dirty old man.

  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #132 - October 06, 2010, 10:17 PM

    @Isabel

    Do you have a soothingly cute voice? Try it out on me so that you don't frighten her with your Lutheran huskiness. Is it true that Lutherans drink torrents and torrents of goat milk before communing on the phone?

    Okay send me your details and I will pass it on. I promise not to sell it to convicted sex molesters like Ishina and IsLame.

  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #133 - October 06, 2010, 10:25 PM

    @poloma

    according to wiki:

    Quote
    D'Souza is a noted Christian apologist and conservative writer and speaker. He is the author of numerous New York Times best selling books. He was born and raised Roman Catholic, but now considers himself an Evangelical Christian.



    I didn´t know that, but anyway does the fact that he is a devout Christian make everything he says/writes a lie ?

    What about this :

    Quote
    In his multi-volume history of the Third Reich, historian Richard Evans writes that "the Nazis regarded the churches as the strongest and toughest reservoirs of ideological opposition to the principles they believed in." Once Hitler and the Nazis came to power, they launched a ruthless drive to subdue and weaken the Christian churches in Germany. Evans points out that after 1937 the policies of Hitler's government became increasingly anti-religious.

    The Nazis stopped celebrating Christmas, and the Hitler Youth recited a prayer thanking the Fuhrer rather than God for their blessings. Clergy regarded as "troublemakers" were ordered not to preach, hundreds of them were imprisoned, and many were simply murdered. Churches were under constant Gestapo surveillance. The Nazis closed religious schools, forced Christian organizations to disband, dismissed civil servants who were practicing Christians, confiscated church property, and censored religious newspapers


    Is he misquoting the historian Richard Evans or is R.E. also a Christian apologist ?

    Like a compass needle that points north, a man?s accusing finger always finds a woman. Always.

    Khaled Hosseini - A thousand splendid suns.
  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #134 - October 06, 2010, 11:18 PM

    I didn´t know that, but anyway does the fact that he is a devout Christian make everything he says/writes a lie ?

    No, but  in this case its a bit like quoting Harun Yahya  on a scientific miracle.  Souza, like Yahya, has lost all credibility as a speaker/writer and they are well known for outspoken lies.

    Quote
    What about this
    Is he misquoting the historian Richard Evans or is R.E. also a Christian apologist ?

    Dunno, wanting to get rid of the established church could just mean he had non-conformist christian beliefs (Lutherian I heard) and was power-hungry.  The later at least is proven.

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  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #135 - October 06, 2010, 11:24 PM

    At the best of times, I struggle to get past the idea of a grown man, in 2010, talking about virgins giving birth and other magic spells while keeping a straight face. Even if I could get past all that, he’s a fucking right-wing nutjob - on religion, on politics, on race relations, on pretty much anything he opens his slimy little mouth about. That miserable quagmire of bent truths called an article isn’t even about ‘Was Hitler a Christian?’ its about ‘Godless atheists are evil dark-siders, and Jesus Christ is the Truth, the Way, and the Light (and buy my book!).’ What are you reading D'Souza for? He's a full-on Bible thumping charlatan. He might very well be misquoting or quote-mining all manner of things. I wouldn't trust him as far and I could spit at him.

    Even if he is using good sources, its beside the point. Even if Hitler did go to those lengths to strip the power away from the Church, it doesn’t take away from the fact that he believed in God, believed he was acting for God, believed he was doing the Lord’s work. And he can mostly justify his whole career as a twisted fuckhead using Christianity's most sacred and revered scriptures. And there is a difference between seizing the power behind the Church and actually outlawing them, which he did do to atheist and free-thinking establishments.

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #136 - October 06, 2010, 11:30 PM

    @Ishina

    Is your contention that JC was a card carrying Nazi? Fascinating.
  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #137 - October 07, 2010, 01:34 AM

    @Isabel

    Do you have a soothingly cute voice? Try it out on me so that you don't frighten her with your Lutheran huskiness. Is it true that Lutherans drink torrents and torrents of goat milk before communing on the phone?

    Okay send me your details and I will pass it on. I promise not to sell it to convicted sex molesters like Ishina and IsLame.





     Smiley
  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #138 - October 07, 2010, 01:37 AM

    Quote
    Islame

    Dunno, wanting to get rid of the established church could just mean he had non-conformist christian beliefs (Lutherian I heard) and was power-hungry.  The later at least is proven.

     

    Hitler was not a Lutheran.
  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #139 - October 07, 2010, 01:59 AM

    @Isabel

    My partner wants me to kneel at the foot of the Cross. What can I say to rebuff her religious onslaught without damaging my sex life? Give me some pointers, some valuable tips on how to mount the gospel like a bison. I will send you a bottle of the finest home-brewed Whiskey to ever water mortal lips.
  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #140 - October 07, 2010, 02:28 AM

    Sure Yahweh was indeed better than Allah.

    Jesus was far better than Mo, what a dumb claim how would anyone know or say that?
    I see by reading the bible of course then why didn't Jesus deny that crap.
    I say Islam never endorsed honor killing but the environment for it was set, I wonder what does Christianity endorse.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQ-XCn75uZA


    So..
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAouFMANYSY

    Confucius:
    "What you do not like done to yourself, do not unto others."
  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #141 - October 07, 2010, 03:27 AM

    @Isabel

    My partner wants me to kneel at the foot of the Cross. What can I say to rebuff her religious onslaught without damaging my sex life? Give me some pointers, some valuable tips on how to mount the gospel like a bison. I will send you a bottle of the finest home-brewed Whiskey to ever water mortal lips.


    Just do what she says and hope it will please her.

    No whiskey for me please. Send me either a bottle of wine or some tequila shots.
  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #142 - October 07, 2010, 03:54 AM

    @Ishina

    Is your contention that JC was a card carrying Nazi? Fascinating.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKVM4AP4zhg

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #143 - October 07, 2010, 04:14 AM



    Good one Smiley

    Here's one of my faves:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFkeKKszXTw

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #144 - October 07, 2010, 09:34 AM

    Jesus was far better than Mo, what a dumb claim how would anyone know or say that?


    I can say that. The mainstream narrative of Jesus's life and actions is less horrific, violent, hateful, murderous, and sexually perverted than the mainstream narrative of Mohammeds life.

    By mainstream I mean, how the respective narratives settled upon by their adherents are accepted.


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #145 - October 07, 2010, 10:50 AM

    At the best of times, I struggle to get past the idea of a grown man, in 2010, talking about virgins giving birth and other magic spells while keeping a straight face. Even if I could get past all that, he’s a fucking right-wing nutjob - on religion, on politics, on race relations, on pretty much anything he opens his slimy little mouth about. That miserable quagmire of bent truths called an article isn’t even about ‘Was Hitler a Christian?’ its about ‘Godless atheists are evil dark-siders, and Jesus Christ is the Truth, the Way, and the Light (and buy my book!).’ What are you reading D'Souza for? He's a full-on Bible thumping charlatan. He might very well be misquoting or quote-mining all manner of things. I wouldn't trust him as far and I could spit at him.

    Even if he is using good sources, its beside the point. Even if Hitler did go to those lengths to strip the power away from the Church, it doesn’t take away from the fact that he believed in God, believed he was acting for God, believed he was doing the Lord’s work. And he can mostly justify his whole career as a twisted fuckhead using Christianity's most sacred and revered scriptures. And there is a difference between seizing the power behind the Church and actually outlawing them, which he did do to atheist and free-thinking establishments.


    I don´t read d´Souza, I had never even heard about him untill I googled that article, which corresponded quite well with the impression I had gained over the years, from books, articles and television programs about Hitler.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler's_religious_views
    I have skimmed this Wikipedia article about Hitler´s religious views and it seems that one day he would say one thing and another day he would say another thing. (you need not point out to me that anybody can write anything in Wikipedia, so you cannot take it as the Gospel truth, I know that)

    About quote mining, aren´t you guilty of that too ? Your want to portray Hitler as a Christian and quote statements that proves this. D´Souza wants to distance him from Christianity and brings quotes like the following :

    "Our epoch will certainly see the end of the disease of Christianity."

    Goebbels notes in a diary entry in 1939 a conversation in which Hitler had "expressed his revulsion against Christianity. He wished that the time were ripe for him to be able to openly express that. Christianity had corrupted and infected the entire world of antiquity."

    "You see, it's been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn't we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"

    Historian Richard Overy maintains that Hitler was not a christian, nor was his ideology influenced by Christianity,[43] but believed in Arthur de Gobineau's ideas of struggle for survival between the different races, among which the "Aryan race" — guided by a pantheistic "providence" — was supposed to be the torchbearers of civilization
    Unquote

    So far as I know Hitler was also a great admirerer of Nietzsce and the übermench idea

    Quote
    The elimination of the worn out shell of the old order, however, is only the first step in the transition to the superman. With the collapse of the old order, humanity in Nietzsche‟s view will be engulfed in chaos and destruction. It will be a period of unparalleled ferocity with wars the like of which the world has never seen.18 While many might find this prospect horrifying, Nietzsche is less concerned about the coming carnage and looks to the future with a new cheerfulness that grows out of his sense of liberation.19 His disgust with late nineteenth century Europe, with the idea of human dignity and the value of labor?the most abysmal forms of slave morality?is profound, and he longs for its destruction in the belief that the resulting chaos and war will promote a new manliness, and help humanity to recover from the weakening, softening, and decadence that Christianity brought about. He is convinced that only in the cauldron of war can humanity be hardened and overcome pity, which Zarathustra refers to as his final sin. This hardening is not merely a mental toughening, but also and primarily the training and disciplining of the body, of the self and its passions. In particular it includes the elimination of sympathy for the suffering of others. Lest one imagine that Nietzsche intends this in a merely metaphorical sense, he specifically points to the brutal heroes of the Norse sagas, whom he praises for their unfeeling hard-heartedness, as models for 
    19
    what he has in mind.20 Contemporary human beings in his view are a herd of consumers; he wants humans who are warriors and beasts of prey. Such men in his view will learn discipline in the midst of war and destruction or they will not survive.21 Out of these ferocious barbarians will grow a new aristocracy, repeating a process Nietzsche believes has occurred many times before. How this process will unfold and modify the barbarism of the ?blond beasts‟ is not something that Nietzsche (in contrast to Plato)considers in any great detail.


    http://users.polisci.wisc.edu/polphil/GillespieNietzscheWarriors.pdf

    Doesn´t sound very Christian to me.

    However, whether at the end of the day Hitler considered himself a Christian, I don´t know and I don´t think anybody does.

    Like a compass needle that points north, a man?s accusing finger always finds a woman. Always.

    Khaled Hosseini - A thousand splendid suns.
  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #146 - October 07, 2010, 11:17 AM

    Yeah, and all the quotes, in context, only seem to prove he hated the Church and what a corrupt mockery Christianity had become, not prove he hated or had rejected Christ. There is not necessarily a contradiction in man who hates the Church but believes in Christ, which is the point.

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #147 - October 07, 2010, 11:51 AM

    I don´t read d´Souza, I had never even heard about him untill I googled that article, which corresponded quite well with the impression I had gained over the years, from books, articles and television programs about Hitler.

    D'Souza is a complete moron.  I watched this long (over 2 hr) debate last year when it was linked on richarddawkins.net and wasn't impressed at all by D'Souza.  I also found Nassim Taleb rather annoying and dogmatic.

    Debate - Hitchens, Harris, Dennett vs Boteach, D'Souza, Taleb.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hnqo4_X7PE

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  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #148 - October 07, 2010, 12:37 PM

    Rabbi Boteach is even worse. The guy thinks you can win a debate by screaming, shouting and flailing your arms about.

    19:46   <zizo>: hugs could pimp u into sex

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  • Re: Allah's Doomed Slaves
     Reply #149 - October 07, 2010, 03:45 PM

    Sure Yahweh was indeed better than Allah.

    Jesus was far better than Mo, what a dumb claim how would anyone know or say that?
    I see by reading the bible of course then why didn't Jesus deny that crap.
    I say Islam never endorsed honor killing but the environment for it was set, I wonder what does Christianity endorse.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQ-XCn75uZA
    So..
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAouFMANYSY

    Setting aside the unlettered grammar of your post momentarily (were you drunk?), I'm tickled by the fact you think JC was culpable for the antediluvian moral code of the Mosaic law. Fact is, of all the procession of messianic quacks who inflict the human experiment like a recurring flu, Christ was by a large margin the finest, hottest, baddest, coolest, damndest Godsend who ever lied about his divine paternity.

    As noted elsewhere, JC practically overthrew all the preceding clerical gangsterism that went before. If he didn't verbally repudiate the Mosaic law, what of it? It's what the rascal did that matters. No more finer, more grander, more spectacular defence of the exuberance of the human spirit can be found in all the scribblings of the ancients than when JC, obeying the promptings of his Flesh, rose manfully to the defence of the prossies!

    Match that in all theology. But catamite that you are, you attack the only moral teacher in all the annals of history with sense enough to realise that the oldest profession in the world is worth defending.
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