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  • CAT Steven alias Yussuf Islam
     OP - October 10, 2010, 06:05 AM
    I used to Listen to him in the seventies Afro

    After listening to him singing again with his guitar (on you tube) I think he is overwhelmed by Islam and wishes to quit what do you think? Is he having second thought may be he is on this forum right now instead of praying fajr  Roll Eyes
    If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten.
    George Carlin
  • Re: CAT Steven alias Yussuf Islam
     Reply #1 - October 10, 2010, 07:34 AM
    I was a big fan. The seventies Cat Stevens was God. The "Wild world" hit was my fav  Afro

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8pvXLVu8Yk&feature=related
    ...
  • Re: CAT Steven alias Yussuf Islam
     Reply #2 - October 10, 2010, 08:21 AM
    I dunno about  him leaving Islam. He's in too deep.

    Not a bad choice, RIBS

    Here's another good one:

    http://www.youtube.com/user/CatStevensDieHardFan#p/u/43/tUYgS2k0aes

  • Re: CAT Steven alias Yussuf Islam
     Reply #3 - October 10, 2010, 09:36 AM

    He is a model of what Islam can do to something beautiful, tender and unique. One of the greatest singer-songwriters this country has ever produced, converted to Islam, and utterly destroyed what he used to be, and his natural, innate, special talent, for the sake of Islam. A common story - Islam makes these demands. Destroy what makes a human a human, his individuality and uniqueness, in order to purge him of his prior Muslim self. He has chilled out since. But this initial stage of his conversion is a horror story.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: CAT Steven alias Yussuf Islam
     Reply #4 - October 10, 2010, 09:44 AM
    He used to drink, take drugs, etc.  Now he calls for the execution of novelists on TV.  Oh how Islam has changed him for the better.
    I don't come here any more due to unfair moderation.
    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=30785
  • Re: CAT Steven alias Yussuf Islam
     Reply #5 - October 10, 2010, 10:19 AM

    When he came back to music, he gave an interview saying to effect that he regretted how harsh he had been towards his music when he first converted to Islam. The zeal of the convert, and all that.

    But look at George Harrison. When he became a Hare Krishna he didn't have to erase his identity, his very essence as a person and musician, in order to be acceptable to his new spiritual path.

    I think this aspect of Islam is really, deeply disturbing.



    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: CAT Steven alias Yussuf Islam
     Reply #6 - October 10, 2010, 12:51 PM
    I remember reading something about him not agreeing that homosexuality should be taught as acceptable in schools or something. I found it a bit sad that a person who could have previously been open-minded had actually allowed a religion to dictate how he thinks of people. I liked some of his old songs, though.
  • Re: CAT Steven alias Yussuf Islam
     Reply #7 - October 10, 2010, 01:43 PM
    Great tracks guys. Please recommend more.
  • Re: CAT Steven alias Yussuf Islam
     Reply #8 - October 10, 2010, 02:01 PM
    Some of my favs.

    Father and son

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCQVnSOFqfM

    Sad Lisa

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDoRwRLlc3s
    "He hoped and prayed that there wasn't an afterlife. Then he realized there was a contradiction involved here and merely hoped that there wasn't an afterlife."
    ~ Douglas Adams
  • Re: CAT Steven alias Yussuf Islam
     Reply #9 - October 10, 2010, 02:01 PM
    Quote from: Dick Hymen on October 10, 2010, 01:43 PM
    Great tracks guys. Please recommend more.


    DH, you will like this one then!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q29YR5-t3gg&feature=related
    ...
  • Re: CAT Steven alias Yussuf Islam
     Reply #10 - October 10, 2010, 02:03 PM
    Damn, you beat me to it!  Cheesy

    I always liked Father and Son.

    ETA: actually we posted it exactly at the same time.  dance
    ...
  • Re: CAT Steven alias Yussuf Islam
     Reply #11 - October 10, 2010, 02:04 PM
    Here it is covered by Rod Stewart!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpZD80bfDyo&feature=related
    ...
  • Re: CAT Steven alias Yussuf Islam
     Reply #12 - October 10, 2010, 02:06 PM
    Another Fav song....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBccr-aLu4I
    ...
  • Re: CAT Steven alias Yussuf Islam
     Reply #13 - October 10, 2010, 02:11 PM
    and this one is when he became Mullah Yusif  Afro

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L-GOHa5-YQ&feature=related
    ...
  • Re: CAT Steven alias Yussuf Islam
     Reply #14 - October 10, 2010, 02:19 PM
    Quote from: RIBS on October 10, 2010, 02:03 PM
    Damn, you beat me to it!  Cheesy

    I always liked Father and Son.

    ETA: actually we posted it exactly at the same time.  dance


    LOL yeah, Father and Son is awesome. It made me cry.  Cry
    "He hoped and prayed that there wasn't an afterlife. Then he realized there was a contradiction involved here and merely hoped that there wasn't an afterlife."
    ~ Douglas Adams
  • Re: CAT Steven alias Yussuf Islam
     Reply #15 - October 10, 2010, 02:23 PM
    God Is the Light is a pretty song (after he became Muslim). It makes me sad his transformation, though. =[
    Quote from: Mount A Bison on September 26, 2010, 03:19 PM
    Is your grammar defective? Just askin'.


    "The wound is the place where the Light enters you." - Rumi

  • Re: CAT Steven alias Yussuf Islam
     Reply #16 - October 10, 2010, 04:27 PM
    Edited
  • Re: CAT Steven alias Yussuf Islam
     Reply #17 - October 10, 2010, 04:43 PM
    Word up, MAB

    I too am wary of his beliefs, but to hell with what he believes now, he wrote some excellent songs. Wagner was probably anti-semitic; doesn't mean that people should judge his music by the fact that he was a loon.

    But regarding his beliefs, I saw that documentary on his conversion to Islam and  when the part about the Salman Rushdie affair came up, it was made to seem as though the only thing that had happened was that the media had taken what he said 'out of context' and caused the thing to be totally over blown.

    But of course, the offending footage was not shown in the documentary, and it's quite clear that he did say some frankly reprehensible things. Smacks of dishonesty to me.
  • Re: CAT Steven alias Yussuf Islam
     Reply #18 - October 10, 2010, 04:47 PM
    Quote
    it was made to seem as though the only thing that had happened was that the media had taken what he said 'out of context'

     

    Everything in Islam is taken out of context.

    They just discovered a new surah in which it is described as the sixth pillar.

    *Shahadah
    *Salat
    *Zakat
    *Sawm
    *Hajj
    *Outofcontext



    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: CAT Steven alias Yussuf Islam
     Reply #19 - October 10, 2010, 04:52 PM
     Cheesy
    All I know is that the universe is a beautiful & complicated place. I think we are beautiful beings. Everyday I find something to marval at. I just hope I don't get burned in eternal torment because I miscalculated the truth level of a 7th Century camel salesman's feverish rantings. ~ BlackDog
  • Re: CAT Steven alias Yussuf Islam
     Reply #20 - October 10, 2010, 05:00 PM
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  • Re: CAT Steven alias Yussuf Islam
     Reply #21 - October 10, 2010, 08:29 PM
    Quote from: billy on October 10, 2010, 04:47 PM


    Everything in Islam is taken out of context.

    They just discovered a new surah in which it is described as the sixth pillar.

    *Shahadah
    *Salat
    *Zakat
    *Sawm
    *Hajj
    *Outofcontext






     Cheesy  Lmao hahaha clap
    Quote from: Mount A Bison on September 26, 2010, 03:19 PM
    Is your grammar defective? Just askin'.


    "The wound is the place where the Light enters you." - Rumi

  • Re: CAT Steven alias Yussuf Islam
     Reply #22 - October 10, 2010, 08:34 PM
    But, seriously, reading the wikipedia article on the Satanic Verses, I don't see why it was a big deal... the verses are in the Qur'an and have been described as that. I guess I'm going to just have to read it when I get time.
    Quote from: Mount A Bison on September 26, 2010, 03:19 PM
    Is your grammar defective? Just askin'.


    "The wound is the place where the Light enters you." - Rumi

  • Re: CAT Steven alias Yussuf Islam
     Reply #23 - October 10, 2010, 08:36 PM
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  • Re: CAT Steven alias Yussuf Islam
     Reply #24 - October 10, 2010, 09:26 PM
    Quote from: billy on October 10, 2010, 09:36 AM
    He is a model of what Islam can do to something beautiful, tender and unique. One of the greatest singer-songwriters this country has ever produced, converted to Islam, and utterly destroyed what he used to be, and his natural, innate, special talent, for the sake of Islam. A common story - Islam makes these demands. Destroy what makes a human a human, his individuality and uniqueness, in order to purge him of his prior Muslim self. He has chilled out since. But this initial stage of his conversion is a horror story.


    Well so sad Cry Cry it his son who made him play music again his wife and daughters all wear Hijab but I still feel he would like to walk away but cannot, when one has become a public figure it is much harder.


    If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten.
    George Carlin
  • Re: CAT Steven alias Yussuf Islam
     Reply #25 - October 10, 2010, 09:32 PM
    Quote
    But look at George Harrison. When he became a Hare Krishna he didn't have to erase his identity, his very essence as a person and musician, in order to be acceptable to his new spiritual path.

    I think this aspect of Islam is really, deeply disturbing.


    You are right
    the all or nothing policy
    I tell nothing!! is better for the world and let's bring back the music...  dance
    If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten.
    George Carlin
  • Re: CAT Steven alias Yussuf Islam
     Reply #26 - October 10, 2010, 09:37 PM
    Quote from: Unechance on October 10, 2010, 12:51 PM
    I remember reading something about him not agreeing that homosexuality should be taught as acceptable in schools or something. I found it a bit sad that a person who could have previously been open-minded had actually allowed a religion to dictate how he thinks of people. I liked some of his old songs, though.


    Well he is the one who started Islamia school to brain wash little kiddies it is a little more open that other school but still the head scarf is part of the uniform.
    As well there have been allegation of sexual abuse by some staff like in another school where my kids have been for one year.
    I hope his son will drag him out of the religion kids can be an eye opener.  yes
    If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten.
    George Carlin
  • Re: CAT Steven alias Yussuf Islam
     Reply #27 - October 10, 2010, 10:04 PM
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    If you consider the sentimental mush of Yusuf Islam artistically superior to the coruscating prose of Rushdie's Midnight's Children, you are quite welcome to your aesthetic judgement. I don't begrudge it, but let it be known that until this mountebank weeps hot tears of remorse for his revolting past, as long as fawning sycophants pay him unmerited homage some of us who honour the beauty of the written word shall raise a voice in protest. Quacks like him should not be acclaimed; they should be railroaded into jail for inciting murder. In conclusion I hope I haven't said anything to prejudice Mr Yusuf's case.


    Rushdie is a wonderful writter and most muslims who protested against him never read his work a few I know who did distanced themselves with the fatwa which was absurd anyway.
     Cat Steven was no litterary genius he had nice tracks a complete different league but pleasing to the ears.
    If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten.
    George Carlin
  • Re: CAT Steven alias Yussuf Islam
     Reply #28 - October 10, 2010, 10:16 PM
    Quote
    Incriminating Video:

    http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=54174770

    A longer but more grainy footage of the same video:

    http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=58044656

    The consequences of the fatwa:

    http://sheikyermami.com/2010/05/31/minister-ridiculed-for-exposing-yusuf-islam/


    I knew Cats had this position (never seen the video before) but this was a long time ago he must really regret to have been such a fool I have heard that he regrets to have cut away from his culture and origin so drastically. Yes may be his intellect is not so deep to make a U turn. May be we will never know because he won't admit it.  cool2
    If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten.
    George Carlin
  • Re: CAT Steven alias Yussuf Islam
     Reply #29 - October 10, 2010, 10:31 PM
    I love those two:
    Morning has broken.
    My Lady D'Arbanville.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TWd3skb-Rw


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ik1pxav-CM&feature=related




     dance dance dance yes yes bunny bunny bunny
    If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten.
    George Carlin
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