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OP - October 11, 2010, 05:15 AM

Does anybody else from Muslims families have a ruling that women must grow their hair long ? I have heard slightwhispers from a few scholars I do know of that women should not have cut their hair ? So I was never allowed to cut mine and it is extremely long ! Which is difficult to style and just manage , I got in a lot of trouble with my panrents over when I for the first time had my fringe cut but not the length shortened ? I do not like the impression very long hair like this gives off , as if I cannot bother to get it cut , I am conufsed !
I think if it could be found that this is not Islamic in ruling my parents will not have problems if I cut my hair .

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Reply #1 - October 11, 2010, 05:20 AM

I never heard of anything that says you can't cut your hair at all. Only that you shouldn't have a men's hair style. And it's healthier for your hair if you at least trim it every once in awhile.

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Reply #2 - October 11, 2010, 08:53 AM

Quote from: laces on October 11, 2010, 05:15 AM
Does anybody else from Muslims families have a ruling that women must grow their hair long ? I have heard slightwhispers from a few scholars I do know of that women should not have cut their hair ? So I was never allowed to cut mine and it is extremely long ! Which is difficult to style and just manage , I got in a lot of trouble with my panrents over when I for the first time had my fringe cut but not the length shortened ? I do not like the impression very long hair like this gives off , as if I cannot bother to get it cut , I am conufsed !
I think if it could be found that this is not Islamic in ruling my parents will not have problems if I cut my hair .

Nothing to do directly with Islam, its more indirect in that its associated with modernity vs traditional values & obligations upon a woman in society

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Reply #3 - October 11, 2010, 06:54 PM

Thank you for your information , we have been allowed to trim the hair enough to pretend we are not being crazy about it . I recall a mention of not allowing to have hair of different lengths , does this have basis in Islam ?

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Reply #4 - October 11, 2010, 07:09 PM

Quote from: Luthiel on October 11, 2010, 05:20 AM
I never heard of anything that says you can't cut your hair at all. Only that you shouldn't have a men's hair style. And it's healthier for your hair if you at least trim it every once in awhile.

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Reply #5 - October 11, 2010, 07:10 PM

Nope, it's bullshit. I wasn't allowed to cut mine much either. Fucking stupid culture.

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Reply #6 - October 11, 2010, 07:31 PM

My mum used to say it's got to be long enough to cover a lady's bosom. It is pathetic.

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Reply #7 - October 11, 2010, 07:32 PM

My mum shaved all my hair off when I was young .... I don't think she really cared

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Reply #8 - October 11, 2010, 07:34 PM

In many mid-east cultures, short hair is considered masculine and long hair considered feminine, perhaps that's the foundation of the claim.
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Reply #9 - October 11, 2010, 08:27 PM

Thank you for your replies , the lack of Islamic links to this topic is promising

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Reply #10 - October 13, 2010, 05:48 PM

Quote from: laces on October 11, 2010, 05:15 AM
Does anybody else from Muslims families have a ruling that women must grow their hair long ? I have heard slightwhispers from a few scholars I do know of that women should not have cut their hair ? So I was never allowed to cut mine and it is extremely long ! Which is difficult to style and just manage , I got in a lot of trouble with my panrents over when I for the first time had my fringe cut but not the length shortened ? I do not like the impression very long hair like this gives off , as if I cannot bother to get it cut , I am conufsed !
I think if it could be found that this is not Islamic in ruling my parents will not have problems if I cut my hair .

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Reply #11 - October 13, 2010, 05:58 PM

Hi laces

check this link out. it provides evidence from Quran and sunnah ... if ur family are not salafi or wahabi dot tell them who wrote it.
just the hadith ...

http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/13744

enjoy ur short hair .... inshahallah

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Reply #12 - October 13, 2010, 07:40 PM

Hi Dr@gon Sl@yer my family is hanfi thanks very muchf ro the link .
However I would deinfitely like layers and a fringe or hairstyles I could vary at whatever time which is not allowed from this hadith :
It is not permissible for a woman to cut her hair short in the back and leave the sides longer, because this involves disfiguring and fooling about with her hair which is part of her beauty, and it also involves imitating the kaafir women. This prohibition also applies to haircuts which are named after kaafir women or animals, like the “Diana” cut, named after a kaafir women, or the “lion” cut or “mouse” cut, because it is haraam to imitate the kaafirs or to imitate animals, and because that involves fooling about with a woman’s hair which is part of her beauty.

Fataawa al-Mar’ah al-Muslimah, 2/516,517

Although it is helpful

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Reply #13 - October 13, 2010, 07:53 PM

sorry babe, thats the best i cud do considering i got islam to work with.

what a fucked up religion this is.

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Reply #14 - October 13, 2010, 07:55 PM

No worries mate your link has good quotes on it , not your fault Islam will not allow layers or fringes !

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Reply #15 - October 13, 2010, 07:57 PM

Haram! Don't imitate the kuffar

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Reply #16 - October 13, 2010, 07:58 PM

Darn them kuffar man they took all the best hairstyles

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Reply #17 - October 13, 2010, 08:00 PM

u r welcome.

p.s hanafis are some of the worst!

the problem is that theses stupid bastard kuffar do all the fun, awesome things. domn them, damn them all to hell

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Reply #18 - October 15, 2010, 01:21 AM

I was bought up thiking Salafis or Sufis were worse , but parents aren't going to tell me we are the worst I suppose
Bloody kuffar man , why can't they sit and home and wear hijab and cook dinner and not shave their underarms? lol this is getting odd

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Reply #19 - October 15, 2010, 12:03 PM

Not shave underarms? Aren't you allowed to remove that hair either?

My family think shaving is haram, so they used to make me use hair removal cream instead. Not sure if that's what you meant?

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Reply #20 - October 15, 2010, 02:37 PM

Quote from: laces on October 13, 2010, 07:40 PM
Hi Dr@gon Sl@yer my family is hanfi thanks very muchf ro the link .
However I would deinfitely like layers and a fringe or hairstyles I could vary at whatever time which is not allowed from this hadith :
It is not permissible for a woman to cut her hair short in the back and leave the sides longer, because this involves disfiguring and fooling about with her hair which is part of her beauty, and it also involves imitating the kaafir women. This prohibition also applies to haircuts which are named after kaafir women or animals, like the “Diana” cut, named after a kaafir women, or the “lion” cut or “mouse” cut, because it is haraam to imitate the kaafirs or to imitate animals, and because that involves fooling about with a woman’s hair which is part of her beauty.

Fataawa al-Mar’ah al-Muslimah, 2/516,517

Although it is helpful

There is no hadith here. This fatwa makes almost no sense islamically as well, because imitation of nonmuslims is in beliefs or something exclusive to them.

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Reply #21 - October 15, 2010, 09:30 PM

Quote from: PeruvianSkies on October 15, 2010, 12:03 PM
Not shave underarms? Aren't you allowed to remove that hair either?

You are allowed to remove your armpit hair, but you are to pull out the hair.

I always wondered why you could shave the pubic region, but you must pull out the hair in the armpits.

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Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said "Five things are in accordance with Al fitra (i.e. the tradition of prophets): to be circumcised, to shave the pelvic region, to pull out the hair of the armpits, to cut short the moustaches, and to clip the nails.' (Book #74, Hadith #312)

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My family think shaving is haram, so they used to make me use hair removal cream instead. Not sure if that's what you meant?

Oh dear, Allah must be very displeased.

There is a thread about hairremoval here :

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Reply #22 - October 17, 2010, 06:16 PM

Sorry I didn't mean hadith , um actually we can shave our underarms , it was completely random that i wrote that post
I asked my sister why in our family we don't cut our hair and normally she replies to me within the day , it has been nearly a week and she deoesnt' reply.
That says something to me , I aksed her if there was an Islamic reason and she just isnt replying. Cheers for your replies guys

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Reply #23 - October 17, 2010, 07:11 PM

What gets me regarding this conversation is that although in some schools of thought a Muslim woman cannot cut or trim her hair she is then expected to shove the whole mass up under a headscarf.

When I still had long hair and wore hijab I didn't have the time to blow-dry my hair in the morninings because it was so thick so I ended up just letting it air dry a bit, tying it back and then putting on my hijab. After a hot, muggy day of sweating in my hijab with already damp hair my head was pretty ripe by the time I took my scarf off when I got home in the evening!

On another note I generally find that the fatawa regarding women not being able to cut their hair, period, come from more Deobandi inspired mufti's such as Mufti Ibrahim Desai who generally come from S.Asia where culturally women do not cut their hair, regardless of whether they are Hindu, Muslim, Sikh, Xtian, etc... Just a thought.

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Reply #24 - October 17, 2010, 07:43 PM

I say long hair is must for women., Damn, it is hard to figure out who is man who is women from behind.. Every one on the road has tight pants and short hair., Hell, I had a theory 10 years back, .lol... that men were going after men because women started cutting their hair.. and confusing the guys.. lol..

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Reply #25 - October 17, 2010, 07:55 PM

Quote from: IsLame on October 11, 2010, 08:53 AM
Nothing to do directly with Islam, its more indirect in that its associated with modernity vs traditional values & obligations upon a woman in society

right. I never heard of a culture like that either... maybe Indians do it?

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Reply #26 - October 17, 2010, 08:00 PM

I grew my hair a bit long once, and I ended up looking like a hobo. I had 2 haircuts in the summer. First one sucked, the other looked great. Now I'm thinking of growing it really long this time so I can get dreads I might even talk my mom into doing it for me, but I think she's gonna facepalm first.

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Reply #27 - October 17, 2010, 10:01 PM

Quote from: Nour on October 17, 2010, 07:11 PM
What gets me regarding this conversation is that although in some schools of thought a Muslim woman cannot cut or trim her hair she is then expected to shove the whole mass up under a headscarf.

When I still had long hair and wore hijab I didn't have the time to blow-dry my hair in the morninings because it was so thick so I ended up just letting it air dry a bit, tying it back and then putting on my hijab. After a hot, muggy day of sweating in my hijab with already damp hair my head was pretty ripe by the time I took my scarf off when I got home in the evening!

On another note I generally find that the fatawa regarding women not being able to cut their hair, period, come from more Deobandi inspired mufti's such as Mufti Ibrahim Desai who generally come from S.Asia where culturally women do not cut their hair, regardless of whether they are Hindu, Muslim, Sikh, Xtian, etc... Just a thought.

It is always such a pain , it is almost impossible to straighten the whole thing and anything else I do to it, due to the sheer volume, looks riduculous.
Yes I think you might have a good point about it being a Deobandi tradition , my father is a big supporter and as Indians it is generally accepted to follow the imams of the deobandi sorts of mosques.

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Reply #28 - October 17, 2010, 10:06 PM

well if some you long haired girls don't like long hair and they grow like hell .. please consider donating them to LOCKS OF LOVE..

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Reply #29 - October 17, 2010, 11:19 PM

Quote from: laces on October 17, 2010, 10:01 PM
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