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  • ABC'S Islamic Propaganda
     OP - October 22, 2010, 10:24 AM



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09kfqQFnplE&feature=player_embedded#!


    Raisins with swelling breasts ?

    I wonder why Irshad Manji favours that idea.  Huh?

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  • Re: ABC'S Islamic Propaganda
     Reply #1 - October 22, 2010, 10:43 AM

     Cheesy Cheesy if sugarplums were promised the gr8 MAB wouldn't have left!



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  • Re: ABC'S Islamic Propaganda
     Reply #2 - October 22, 2010, 12:55 PM

     Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
    Large breasted raisins..

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  • Re: ABC'S Islamic Propaganda
     Reply #3 - October 22, 2010, 03:16 PM

    Islamic propaganda my ass. This douchebag misses the point of what Irshad Manji is trying to do-- it's not to be an apologist and make Islam more palatable to the West, as he claims, but to reform and liberalize Islam. She may be engaging in some intellectual dishonesty in the process, but this dick's dishonesty is far more sinister-- he's lying about Manji's agenda, smearing her, liberal Muslims and ABC in the process. Fuck this asshole, he can drop dead.

    ETA: Here's this asshole's channel-- http://www.youtube.com/user/Islam666AntiChrist

    He's another far-right Chicken Little Muslim-basher who's subscribed to a BNP supporter's channel. Congrats, Paloma, on once again uncritically posting bigoted right-wing propaganda.

    "In battle, the well-honed spork is more dangerous than the mightiest sword" -- Sun Tzu
  • Re: ABC'S Islamic Propaganda
     Reply #4 - October 22, 2010, 03:25 PM

    If that woman would have admitted that it is really a part of Islam instead of bluntly lying on everybody's faces, specially when many people have read those verses from koran then we wouldn't be having this debate.

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  • Re: ABC'S Islamic Propaganda
     Reply #5 - October 22, 2010, 03:31 PM

    "That woman" is kinda nutty, but has consistently stood against fundamentalist Islam:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irshad_Manji

    Like I said, she's kinda nutty so I wouldn't be surprised to know she actually believes the whole raisins thing, but even if she's lying, so is the guy who created the video, about her intentions/agenda, which was my whole point to begin with.

    "In battle, the well-honed spork is more dangerous than the mightiest sword" -- Sun Tzu
  • Re: ABC'S Islamic Propaganda
     Reply #6 - October 22, 2010, 07:30 PM

    raisins and boobies !!!  Afro

    Nothing can be more contrary to religion and the clergy than reason and common sense. - Voltaire
  • Re: ABC'S Islamic Propaganda
     Reply #7 - October 28, 2010, 10:15 AM

    woo. The raisins shit started from the infidel side before she tried to use it to her advantage. as everyone who matters knows, she doesn't represent very many muslims, maybe a few more than Terry Jones.

    I've debunked that shit before. woohoo.

    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=4200.msg107172#msg107172

    I chose to get circumcised at 17, don't tell me I never believed.
  • Re: ABC'S Islamic Propaganda
     Reply #8 - October 29, 2010, 03:49 AM

    The idea of the 72 virgins as a mistranslation comes from the theory the Quran might have been originally written in Syriac. That is where the theory of 72 raisins came from. This theory is ridiculous.
  • Re: ABC'S Islamic Propaganda
     Reply #9 - February 09, 2011, 03:56 AM

    That nutty woman was hardly his focus in the video. The point was, that ABC was in effect deceiving their viewers. If you believe that Islam can be liberalized by inserting raisins in all those verses, then you are a lot nuttier than that woman, whom you defend.

    "That it is indeed the speech of an illustrious messenger" (The Koran 69:40)
  • Re: ABC'S Islamic Propaganda
     Reply #10 - February 09, 2011, 08:14 AM

    actually, it would be interesting for a muslim to go with the 'Raisin idea', since this comes from Christoph Luxenberg, who believed that the quran was not actually in classical arabic (as it has been codified in), but was originally in a Syro-Aramic language. Using the Syro-Aramic reading he got 'raisins' for 'white-eyed virgins'.

    If you go with the raisin thing, then you got even bigger problems. Like that muslims have been reading the quran in the wrong language for the last thousand plus years. 

    The foundation of superstition is ignorance, the
    superstructure is faith and the dome is a vain hope. Superstition
    is the child of ignorance and the mother of misery.
    -Robert G. Ingersoll (1898)

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  • Re: ABC'S Islamic Propaganda
     Reply #11 - February 09, 2011, 11:14 AM

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09kfqQFnplE&feature=player_embedded#!


    Raisins with swelling breasts ?

    I wonder why Irshad Manji favours that idea.  Huh?

    well that is guy is right,  Irshad Manji has the right to reform Muslims and Islam BUT NOY QURAN.  she should know that. she is just a little girl


    playing in Islamic sand when it comes to Islamic theology., by the way that cute little girl is Irshad.  Any way let us read Quran..  

    Quran 044.051 to 054:
    Quote
    YUSUFALI

    As to the Righteous (they will be) in a position of Security;  
    Among Gardens and Springs;  Dressed in fine silk and in rich brocade,
    they will face each other; So;
    and We shall join them to fair women with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes.

    Quote
    PICKTHAL:

    Lo! those who kept their duty will be in a place secured.
     Amid gardens and watersprings,
    Attired in silk and silk embroidery, facing one another.
    Even so (it will be). And We shall wed them unto fair ones with wide, lovely eyes.

    Quote
    SHAKIR:

    Surely those who guard (against evil) are in a secure place,
     In gardens and springs;
    They shall wear of fine and thick silk, (sitting) face to face;
    Thus (shall it be), and We will wed them with Houris pure, beautiful ones.


     

    Quran 052.017 to 020

    Quote
    YUSUFALI:
    As to the Righteous, they will be in Gardens, and in Happiness,-
    Enjoying the (Bliss) which their Lord hath bestowed on them, and their Lord shall deliver them from the Penalty of the Fire.
    (To them will be said:) "Eat and drink ye, with profit and health, because of your (good) deeds."
     They will recline (with ease) on Thrones (of dignity) arranged in ranks; and We shall join them to Companions, with beautiful big and lustrous eyes
    .

    Quote
    PICKTHAL:

     Lo! those who kept their duty dwell in gardens and delight,
     Happy because of what their Lord hath given them, and (because) their Lord hath warded off from them the torment of hell-fire.
    (And it is said unto them): Eat and drink in health (as a reward) for what ye used to do,
    Reclining on ranged couches. And we wed them unto fair ones with wide, lovely eyes.

    Quote
    SHAKIR:

    Surely those who guard (against evil) shall be in gardens and bliss
     Rejoicing because of what their Lord gave them, and their Lord saved them from the punishment of the burning fire.
     Eat and drink pleasantly for what you did,
     Reclining on thrones set in lines, and We will unite them to large-eyed beautiful ones.


    This Suarh 55 is most ridiculous repetitive rubbish that you ever read any religious book/scriptures..
     
    Quote
    055.047  to 078

    Which then of the bounties of your Lord will you deny?
     Having in them various kinds.

     Which then of the bounties of your Lord will you deny?
     In both of them are two fountains flowing.

    Which then of the bounties of your Lord will you deny?
    In both of them are two pairs of every fruit.

     Which then of the bounties of your Lord will you deny?
     Reclining on beds, the inner coverings of which are of silk brocade; and the fruits of the two gardens shall be within reach.

     Which then of the bounties of your Lord will you deny?
     In them shall be those who restrained their eyes; before them neither man nor jinni shall have touched them.

     Which then of the bounties of your Lord will you deny?
     As though they were rubies and pearls.

     Which then of the bounties of your Lord will you deny?
     Is the reward of goodness aught but goodness?

     Which then of the bounties of your Lord will you deny?
     And besides these two are two (other) gardens:

     Which then of the bounties of your Lord will you deny?
     Both inclining to blackness.

     Which then of the bounties of your Lord will you deny?
     In both of them are two springs gushing forth.

     Which then of the bounties of your Lord will you deny?
    In both are fruits and palms and pomegranates.

    Which then of the bounties of your Lord will you deny?
    In them are goodly things, beautiful ones.


    Which then of the bounties of your Lord will you deny?
     Pure ones confined to the pavilions.

     Which then of the bounties of your Lord will you deny?
     Man has not touched them before them nor jinni.


     Which then of the bounties of your Lord will you deny?
     Reclining on green cushions and beautiful carpets.


     Which then of the bounties of your Lord will you deny?
     Blessed be the name of your Lord, the Lord of Glory and Honor!


    That Surah 55 is a classic example of whole Quran that highlights believers who follow Muhammad and his warlords. These Muhammad  will get wide eyed big breast houries in heaven and if you have not died in the war you get four wives,concubines loot and booty on the earth.

    And those who are nonbelievers of Muhammad's doctrine they will get hell fire after life  and their throats will get  slashed in this life.


    That is the essence of 30% Muhammad's Quran., But we must realize here That Quran was put together after 10s of years of a character Muhammad died., so what you have is more than 30% of book copy pasted from earlier religious stories from other religious folk tales., rest of the 40% Quran is repetitive nonsense with meaningless mambo jumbo

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: ABC'S Islamic Propaganda
     Reply #12 - February 09, 2011, 11:31 AM

    The internal battle of Islam - Moulana Asad Jafri  on Irshad manji(Lecture 1)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uy7DdxeHjAQ


    my good friend  Moulana Asad Jafri  is  from  Saba.org Islamic school   at  San Jose, CA  US of A

     http://www.saba-igc.org/ 

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: ABC'S Islamic Propaganda
     Reply #13 - February 10, 2011, 02:50 AM

    Quote
    Yeezevee

    That is the essence of 30% Muhammad's Quran., But we must realize here That Quran was put together after 10s of years of a character Muhammad died., so what you have is more than 30% of book copy pasted from earlier religious stories from other religious folk tales., rest of the 40% Quran is repetitive nonsense with meaningless mambo jumbo 

     

    40% of the Quran is nothing but ramblings of a madman.
  • Re: ABC'S Islamic Propaganda
     Reply #14 - February 10, 2011, 05:46 AM

    If you are saying Mohammed was mad, wouldn't that mean that 100% of the Quran was the ramblings of a mad man? 

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: ABC'S Islamic Propaganda
     Reply #15 - February 13, 2011, 02:33 PM

    Just imagine Mohammed took 23 years to reveal Quran, a merely a collection of approximately 6,500 verses. That is less than a verse a day. He spent rest of his time having sex with his ~15 wives, and 66 love interests. (Source Maulana Suyuti).

    To the Quranist Muslims who claim Mohammed forbade anything from being recorded other than the Quran, what did he exactly do worthy of the believers alive today?

    To the Hadithst Muslims who claim that we must follow Mohammed's Hadith as well. There are a little less than 10,000 Sahih Hadiths, and a good number of them are just repetitions.

    So this man did not produce anything of a value in 23 years. He is not just a conman, but a mediocre conman at that. His longcon of the afterlife is easily debunk-able. How then do such a large majority of foolish men and women follow him?

    The most merciful Allah, who is more merciful than your own mortal mother, is capable of punishing you for eternity for a finite sin committed in a finite lifetime with finite knowledge, while your mother nor any living creature that is NOT a sadistic mother fucker would never commit such an act.
  • Re: ABC'S Islamic Propaganda
     Reply #16 - February 13, 2011, 03:07 PM

     

    40% of the Quran is nothing but ramblings of a madman.



    So what does it say about the millions who adore him and are even prepared to die for the Allah he created?



    If you are saying Mohammed was mad, wouldn't that mean that 100% of the Quran was the ramblings of a mad man? 


    A very shrewd on and off mad man! Cheesy

    Just imagine Mohammed took 23 years to reveal Quran, a merely a collection of approximately 6,500 verses. That is less than a verse a day. He spent rest of his time having sex with his ~15 wives, and 66 love interests. (Source Maulana Suyuti).

    To the Quranist Muslims who claim Mohammed forbade anything from being recorded other than the Quran, what did he exactly do worthy of the believers alive today?

    To the Hadithst Muslims who claim that we must follow Mohammed's Hadith as well. There are a little less than 10,000 Sahih Hadiths, and a good number of them are just repetitions.

    So this man did not produce anything of a value in 23 years. He is not just a conman, but a mediocre conman at that. His longcon of the afterlife is easily debunk-able. How then do such a large majority of foolish men and women follow him?


    Shhhhhhhh! we are not allowed  to be judgmental in this PC age.
    Indeed! What excuse do you have for people in the 21st century, who waste their lives poring over a 7th century mumbo- jumbo and feel exalted?
    Looks like madness has not evolved much.



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                                   Thomas Paine

    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored !- Aldous Huxley
  • Re: ABC'S Islamic Propaganda
     Reply #17 - February 13, 2011, 03:32 PM

    How then do such a large majority of foolish men and wowen follow him?

    It's got nothing to do with Muhammad's doing.

    Do you remember when you were a little boy, how your parents would tell you that Mo was the shit?

    What we loved and idolized wasn't the real Muhammad, but the thought of an unattainable, ideal figure always beyond reach.

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    - Robert Louis Stevenson
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