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  • What book are you reading?
     Reply #990 - August 14, 2013, 01:03 PM

    Recently completed:
    Nietzsche, Philosopher, psychologist, Antichrist - Walter Kaufmann
    The Improvement of Human Reason exhibited in the Life of Hay Ibn Yaqhdan - Ibn Tufail.
    The Quest for Meaning: developing a philosophy of pluralism - Tariq Ramadan. Don't bother... In fact:
    http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/694281241
    Islam, The West and the Challenges of Modernity. This is better, I'll write a review of it later.
    Democracy - Paul Ginsborg.

    Currently reading:
    Theism and Explanation - Gregory W. Dawes.
    Nietzsche and the Political - Daniel W. Conway.
  • What book are you reading?
     Reply #991 - September 09, 2013, 10:11 PM

    Arabia of the Wahhabis
    By St. John Philby

    This is a book I had been intending to read for quite some time now. I am finding it utterly fascinating. St. John Philby (Later known as Shaikh Abdullah after his conversion to Wahhabism) is the British agent most directly responsible for advising Ibn Saud and his army of Ikwan raiders in WWI era Arabia. It would not be irrational to propose that without Philby’s guidance and strategic input (as well as his direction as to exactly how far Ibn Saud could invade without incurring the wrath of the British), modern day Saudi Arabia would simply not exist. It is very interesting to read a first hand account of how the camel raiding Wahhabi desert chief, who scarcely understood the concept of a spherical earth, would come to found one of the most influential nations in the world—not least in the Muslim World.

    It is also interesting to read Ibn Saud’s view on other Muslims, as it reveals a lot about Wahhabi attitudes towards the general Muslim population.

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    He then seized the opportunity of launching out into one of his favourite themes—the comparative merits of Christians and non-Wahhabi Muslims, lumped together in the category of Mushrikin. ' Why ! ' he said, ' if you English were to offer me of your daughters to wife I would accept her, making only the condition that any children resulting from the marriage should be Muslims. But I would not take of the daughters of the Sharif or of the people of Mecca or other Muslims, whom we reckon as Mushrikin. I would eat of meat slain by the Christians without question. Ay, but it is the Mushrik, he who associates others in worship with God, that is our abomination.

     

    It also exposes a lot about the role of jihadi ideology in the formation of Saudi Arabia—a fact that we have not escaped even in this modern era. Here’s Ibn Saud on the idea of directing his forces to raid Makkah and Madinah:

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    but you should know I have but to give the word and a great host would flock to my banner from all parts—from Bisha and Najran, from Ranya and Tathlith and elsewhere. And not one of them but is convinced that death is better than life, not one but lives to die for the great reward, and every one of them convinced that to turn back or hesitate is but to court the certainty of hell-fire.

  • What book are you reading?
     Reply #992 - September 09, 2013, 10:49 PM

    Fascinating. If anything else jumps out from the book, do share it ^^^^

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • What book are you reading?
     Reply #993 - September 11, 2013, 09:09 AM

    Arabia of the Wahhabis
    By St. John Philby


    His Wiki page is fascinating.

    This is very interesting

    Quote
    He had one son, Kim Philby, later a British intelligence agent infamous as a double agent for the Soviet Union


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_John_Philby#Ibn_Saud_adviser


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • What book are you reading?
     Reply #994 - September 11, 2013, 12:13 PM

    The book so far has been very intriguing. It gives insight into exactly how primitive Arabia was in the early 20th century. It also shows just how blatantly aggressive and intolerant the Wahhabi movement has always been. Of course, this should not come as a surprise, but it is fascinating to read nonetheless.

    It's also been interesting to see just how much of a role the British played in directing and influencing Ibn Saud. Again, that's not something that should be a shock to anyone, but it is very telling to see how he was persuaded not to attack Kuwait, the Gulf, and the Sharif of Mecca who was Ibn Saud's bitter enemy but was also allied with the British, but instead to attack the Al Rashid who were allied with the Ottomans. That fight, though based in historical feuds and quarrels, was directly instigated by the British to serve their interests and weaken the Ottomans.

    Interesting stuff.
  • What book are you reading?
     Reply #995 - October 26, 2013, 11:41 PM

    The book of love.

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • What book are you reading?
     Reply #996 - October 27, 2013, 12:20 AM

    The Canti by Giacomo Leopardi.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • What book are you reading?
     Reply #997 - November 09, 2013, 06:19 PM

    Kiss the Dead.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • What book are you reading?
     Reply #998 - November 09, 2013, 09:31 PM

    History of Islamic Societies. Klingschor recommended it to during a chat haha Cheesy

    Tell people that there's an invisible man in the sky who created the universe, and the vast majority will believe you.

    Tell them the paint is wet, and they have to touch it to be sure.
    - George Carlin
  • What book are you reading?
     Reply #999 - November 09, 2013, 09:45 PM

    History of Islamic Societies. Klingschor recommended it to during a chat haha Cheesy


    Hello  Sam Brent., Just curious., is that book from Prof. Ira Lapidus,???

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3APo2KGjAlc

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • What book are you reading?
     Reply #1000 - November 09, 2013, 09:57 PM

    why yes it is Yez

    Tell people that there's an invisible man in the sky who created the universe, and the vast majority will believe you.

    Tell them the paint is wet, and they have to touch it to be sure.
    - George Carlin
  • What book are you reading?
     Reply #1001 - November 09, 2013, 10:19 PM

    why yes it is Yez

    well I was  answering a question  from a confused guy who thinks " ALL MUSLIMS MUST BE ONE AND UNDER ONE UMMAH" I was suggesting that guy to read that book  to find an answer to "Why Muslims are NOT following single Islam.?

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • What book are you reading?
     Reply #1002 - November 09, 2013, 10:43 PM

    The Bible Unearthed: Archaeology's New Vision of Ancient Israel and the Origin of Its Sacred Texts. Not a book for the faithful.
  • What book are you reading?
     Reply #1003 - November 09, 2013, 11:16 PM

    I'm reading a book an anonymous person sent to save me "Reclaim your heart" by Yasmin Mogahed.

    "Make anyone believe their own knowledge and logic is insufficient and you'll have a puppet susceptible to manipulation."
  • What book are you reading?
     Reply #1004 - November 11, 2013, 10:05 PM



    Finished reading Fergie's autobiography. It was a decent read but I came out disappointed. Everyone was expecting a grand epic detailing his innermost thoughts during his career, unfortunately there was precious little of that. His recounting of events is sub par and under-detailed. It was a book that had the potential to be one of the greatest books about sport but ended up as a bare bones account of key moments of his career.



    I really enjoyed the movie and decided to read the book not long after. I think it's one of the best young adult books I've ever read and I wish I had read it when I was in my teens. Amazing book.

    19:46   <zizo>: hugs could pimp u into sex

    Quote from: yeezevee
    well I am neither ex-Muslim nor absolute 100% Non-Muslim.. I am fucking Zebra

  • What book are you reading?
     Reply #1005 - November 14, 2013, 02:47 PM

    History of 20th Century - Martin Gilbert
  • What book are you reading?
     Reply #1006 - November 28, 2013, 01:18 AM

    The Art of War - Sun Tzu
    Translation and commentary
    Lionel Giles
    Introduction
    Jan Willem Honig
    Supplementary material
    Ilmari Kaihko

    "Work without hope draws nectar in a sieve, and hope without an object cannot live." -Coleridge

    http://sinofgreed.wordpress.com/
  • What book are you reading?
     Reply #1007 - November 28, 2013, 02:40 AM

    I have decided to accept Tom Robbins as my new deity. I am reading Fierce Invalids Home From Hot Climates, but it is DA's copy. So I am penciling in it, sacrilegiously, but happily.

    Tomorrow I am going to worship pancakes again. I just submit to Robbins in the evenings and during Yu Gi Oh! marathons.

    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • What book are you reading?
     Reply #1008 - November 28, 2013, 08:37 AM

    Did he send it to you or has he flew to the US already?

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • What book are you reading?
     Reply #1009 - November 28, 2013, 01:43 PM

    No, I got it for him. I am supposed to send it to him. But Robbins writes so well, and DA is so busy, that I am highlighting the best use of adjectives and sometimes sending them to him via email.
    He comes in June. It's a wait, but the best time. I have no vacation until then.

    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • What book are you reading?
     Reply #1010 - December 03, 2013, 07:58 AM

    Desperately Seeking Paradise: Journeys of A Sceptical Muslim — Ziauddin Sardar.

    Very well written autobiographical memoir of Sardar's travels through disparate worldwide islamic milieus. He certainly exhibits a knack for literary and linguistic prowess — I am finding this to be a riveting read.

    Like so many of his fellow comrades, however, Sardar solely appears to be sceptical of present-day islamic institutions and the occultism that emerges from the purist of nomadic reterritorialised intentions. I see no overarching poststructuralist critique of islam as a system — even in his youth! which is surprising given that he vociferously champions Ghazzali's pre-Cartesian scepticism.

    Mayhaps he is endeavouring to ingratiate himself with the disillusioned Islamic counterhegemonic current. The question is then involuntarily begged: don't most disillusioned muslims already fully cognise the concepts Sardar is expounding?
  • What book are you reading?
     Reply #1011 - December 03, 2013, 08:09 AM

    Can you post a review without the BS?

    No free mixing of the sexes is permitted on these forums or via PM or the various chat groups that are operating.

    Women must write modestly and all men must lower their case.

    http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?425649-Have-some-Hayaa-%28modesty-shame%29-people!
  • What book are you reading?
     Reply #1012 - December 03, 2013, 08:19 AM

    Can you post a review without the BS?


    No, because there is no BS contained within that post. But I'll recapitulate for your benefit: guy criticises islamic institutions, constantly feeling disillusioned and alienated with them, but can't perceive the systemic failures within islamic discourse.
  • What book are you reading?
     Reply #1013 - December 03, 2013, 08:34 AM

    Desperately Seeking Paradise: Journeys of A Sceptical Muslim — Ziauddin Sardar.

    Very well written autobiographical memoir of Sardar's travels through disparate worldwide islamic milieus. He certainly exhibits a knack for literary and linguistic prowess — I am finding this to be a riveting read.

    Like so many of his fellow comrades, however, Sardar solely appears to be sceptical of present-day islamic institutions and the occultism that emerges from the purist of nomadic reterritorialised intentions. I see no overarching poststructuralist critique of islam as a system — even in his youth! which is surprising given that he vociferously champions Ghazzali's pre-Cartesian scepticism.

    Mayhaps he is endeavouring to ingratiate himself with the disillusioned Islamic counterhegemonic current. The question is then involuntarily begged: don't most disillusioned muslims already fully cognise the concepts Sardar is expounding?


    Got me interested now, I may have to get a copy.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • What book are you reading?
     Reply #1014 - December 03, 2013, 08:38 AM

    Thanks for cutting out the BS.

    Heed these words from a teacher of post structuralism in sociology (and at times English lit) and Mark Twain:

    "I notice that you use plain, simple language, short words and brief sentences. That is the way to write English – it is the modern way and the best way. Stick to it; don’t let fluff and flowers and verbosity creep in."

    It reminds me of a student using fancy words in an essay to impress his teacher. Sometimes the words detract away from the intelligence/meaning of what is written.

    No free mixing of the sexes is permitted on these forums or via PM or the various chat groups that are operating.

    Women must write modestly and all men must lower their case.

    http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?425649-Have-some-Hayaa-%28modesty-shame%29-people!
  • What book are you reading?
     Reply #1015 - December 03, 2013, 08:44 AM

    Got me interested now, I may have to get a copy.


    Sardar is BS. I find he uses university level academic discourse to hide the flaws in his overall thesis. I remember he had lots of documentaries from the BBC that we're shown in the 1990s. His book 'why Muslims hate the west' is irredeemable tosh. His insights into Muslim culture is insightful at times, like an ibn khaldun, but he never criticises islam and always finds excuses. He is a postmodernist Muslim apologist.

    His book 'Balti Britain' is amazing.

    No free mixing of the sexes is permitted on these forums or via PM or the various chat groups that are operating.

    Women must write modestly and all men must lower their case.

    http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?425649-Have-some-Hayaa-%28modesty-shame%29-people!
  • Re: What book are you reading?
     Reply #1016 - December 03, 2013, 09:44 AM

    Thanks for cutting out the BS.

    Heed these words from a teacher of post structuralism in sociology (and at times English lit) and Mark Twain:

    "I notice that you use plain, simple language, short words and brief sentences. That is the way to write English – it is the modern way and the best way. Stick to it; don’t let fluff and flowers and verbosity creep in."

    It reminds me of a student using fancy words in an essay to impress his teacher. Sometimes the words detract away from the intelligence/meaning of what is written.



    Given that there are people on this forum who are familiar with Deleuze and Gramsci, I don't think the technical terminology is entirely unwarranted. Advice duly noted, though, even if Twain was a reactionary bigot.
  • Re: What book are you reading?
     Reply #1017 - December 03, 2013, 09:50 AM

    Sardar is BS. I find he uses university level academic discourse to hide the flaws in his overall thesis. I remember he had lots of documentaries from the BBC that we're shown in the 1990s. His book 'why Muslims hate the west' is irredeemable tosh. His insights into Muslim culture is insightful at times, like an ibn khaldun, but he never criticises islam and always finds excuses. He is a postmodernist Muslim apologist.




    This is the first book from him that I'm reading and I can definitely see where you're coming from. However, isn't the use of the term 'postmodern' for his thesis a tad misrepresentative?

    also: re: criticism of islam. I do not know of any intellectual from an islamic background who accomplishes this with aplomb. Ibn Warraq's crude regurgitations don't count.
  • What book are you reading?
     Reply #1018 - December 03, 2013, 08:31 PM

    Now onto Nietzsche and Islam by Roy Jackson.
  • What book are you reading?
     Reply #1019 - December 04, 2013, 01:13 AM

    Desperately Seeking Paradise: Journeys of A Sceptical Muslim — Ziauddin Sardar.

    Very well written autobiographical memoir of Sardar's travels through disparate worldwide islamic milieus. He certainly exhibits a knack for literary and linguistic prowess — I am finding this to be a riveting read.

    Like so many of his fellow comrades, however, Sardar solely appears to be sceptical of present-day islamic institutions and the occultism that emerges from the purist of nomadic reterritorialised intentions. I see no overarching poststructuralist critique of islam as a system — even in his youth! which is surprising given that he vociferously champions Ghazzali's pre-Cartesian scepticism.

    Mayhaps he is endeavouring to ingratiate himself with the disillusioned Islamic counterhegemonic current. The question is then involuntarily begged: don't most disillusioned muslims already fully cognise the concepts Sardar is expounding?

    I thoroughly enjoyed that book, though I felt he never truly expressed scepticism about his religion. He always believed, even though he expressed doubts about various approaches to Islam.
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