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  • Re: Who else is still a virgin?
     Reply #330 - December 08, 2010, 02:57 PM
    Quote from: ras111 on December 08, 2010, 02:53 PM
    You are arguing about probabilities.


    You said 'because it has a high chance'....

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    I consider a zygote as having human life and you don't.


    Why?

    What is 'human life', what does that grant an arrangement of atoms and why does it grant that?

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    So what?  I'm sure the cunt who got killed yesterday was not intending to wrap his car around the lamp post either when he went speeding after downing a bottle of Jack.  But there was also a good chance of that happening and it did.


    Yep he caused a lot of suffering and should be duly dealt with.
  • Re: Who else is still a virgin?
     Reply #331 - December 08, 2010, 02:57 PM
    Quote from: Ishina on December 08, 2010, 02:46 PM
    Chickens are more aware than a fetus. A chicken once resembled a human fetus -


    A chicken foetus does not develop into a human.  What they look like is quite irrelevant.

    Quote from: Ishina on December 08, 2010, 02:46 PM

    A chicken is alive and will feel suffering and pain, more so than a fetus. You're killing something more developed, more aware of its surroundings, more aware of itself, more aware of danger, but thats ok.


    But I am not arguing against killing something that is aware of its environment,  I am arguing against limiting something that will develop into a human being like me.  There is a difference.



    Quote from: Ishina on December 08, 2010, 02:46 PM


    Why does the argument of awareness and potential, or freedom to exist apply only to humans in your world view?


    Because as a human I only argue for my species and because most species will not have or develop the intellectual capacity to understand concepts like species.
    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

    One very horny Turk I met on the net.
  • Re: Who else is still a virgin?
     Reply #332 - December 08, 2010, 02:58 PM
    Quote from: XxThaminaxX on December 08, 2010, 02:54 PM
    On its own its nothing.


    No it's an arrangement of atoms. Like a foetus. Neither can feel.
  • Re: Who else is still a virgin?
     Reply #333 - December 08, 2010, 02:59 PM
    .
  • Re: Who else is still a virgin?
     Reply #334 - December 08, 2010, 03:00 PM
    Quote from: Ishina on December 08, 2010, 02:48 PM
    You bleed out a 'potential human' every month.


    The egg has not fused with a sperm and become a zygote.  It is different.
    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

    One very horny Turk I met on the net.
  • Re: Who else is still a virgin?
     Reply #335 - December 08, 2010, 03:01 PM
    Quote from: Prince Spinoza on December 08, 2010, 02:38 PM
    I know what you meant!!!!.... I'm asking why you think that!


    Idk! I'm still confused about most of my beliefs!
  • Re: Who else is still a virgin?
     Reply #336 - December 08, 2010, 03:02 PM
    Yes. Like the zygote is different from a person.
  • Re: Who else is still a virgin?
     Reply #337 - December 08, 2010, 03:03 PM
    Only on this forum can a virgin thread turn into an Abortion one  Grin
    Blind faith is an ironic gift to return to the Creator of human intelligence

  • Re: Who else is still a virgin?
     Reply #338 - December 08, 2010, 03:04 PM
    Quote from: Prince Spinoza on December 08, 2010, 02:57 PM


    What is 'human life', what does that grant an arrangement of atoms and why does it grant that?


    I define human life simply as a human being carrying out the 7 vital functions at any point in its life stage.  To me, the beginning of that life stage is at conception

    Quote from: Prince Spinoza on December 08, 2010, 02:57 PM

    Yep he caused a lot of suffering and should be duly dealt with.


    He's dead but that's not the point.  It was also unintended and it could have been avoided.  The moral of the story is that if one is not prepared for all potential consequences that could arise than one should not do the action or at least use protection
    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

    One very horny Turk I met on the net.
  • Re: Who else is still a virgin?
     Reply #339 - December 08, 2010, 03:04 PM
    I refuse to take anyone's virginity here, however I will provide an abortion.
    fuck you
  • Re: Who else is still a virgin?
     Reply #340 - December 08, 2010, 03:05 PM
    Quote from: ras111 on December 08, 2010, 02:57 PM
     I am arguing against limiting something that will develop into a human being like me.  


    CAN.

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    Because as a human I only argue for my species


    Why??
  • Re: Who else is still a virgin?
     Reply #341 - December 08, 2010, 03:08 PM
    Quote from: ras111 on December 08, 2010, 03:04 PM
    human being carrying out the 7 vital functions at any point in its life stage.  


    And what is so important about that?
  • Re: Who else is still a virgin?
     Reply #342 - December 08, 2010, 03:10 PM
    Quote from: ras111 on December 08, 2010, 02:57 PM
    A chicken foetus does not develop into a human.  What they look like is quite irrelevant.

    But I am not arguing against killing something that is aware of its environment,  I am arguing against limiting something that will develop into a human being like me.  There is a difference.

    Because as a human I only argue for my species and because most species will not have or develop the intellectual capacity to understand concepts like species.


    There is nothing special about humans.
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Who else is still a virgin?
     Reply #343 - December 08, 2010, 03:11 PM
    Quote from: ras111 on December 08, 2010, 03:04 PM

     The moral of the story is that if one is not prepared for all potential consequences that could arise than one should not do the action


    Please think about what you just said.

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    or at least use protection


    Yes because no one gets pregnant while using contraception.
  • Re: Who else is still a virgin?
     Reply #344 - December 08, 2010, 03:12 PM
    Quote from: Prince Spinoza on December 08, 2010, 03:05 PM

    Why??


    I can hardly put myself in the shoes of a different animal can I?  Especially one that genetically distant.
    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

    One very horny Turk I met on the net.
  • Re: Who else is still a virgin?
     Reply #345 - December 08, 2010, 03:12 PM
    Quote from: ras111 on December 08, 2010, 03:00 PM
    The egg has not fused with a sperm and become a zygote.  It is different.


    Why is it significantly different?
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Who else is still a virgin?
     Reply #346 - December 08, 2010, 03:13 PM
    Quote from: Ishina on December 08, 2010, 03:10 PM
    There is nothing special about humans.


    You a vegetarian?
    fuck you
  • Re: Who else is still a virgin?
     Reply #347 - December 08, 2010, 03:13 PM
    Quote from: ras111 on December 08, 2010, 03:12 PM
    I can hardly put myself in the shoes of a different animal can I?  Especially one that genetically distant.


     Huh?

    You cannot relate to the idea of a sentient being feeling pain?
  • Re: Who else is still a virgin?
     Reply #348 - December 08, 2010, 03:14 PM
    Quote from: Prince Spinoza on December 08, 2010, 03:08 PM
    And what is so important about that?


    Nothing at all, but those are my personal standards and that is what I go by.
    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

    One very horny Turk I met on the net.
  • Re: Who else is still a virgin?
     Reply #349 - December 08, 2010, 03:15 PM
    Quote from: Prince Spinoza on December 08, 2010, 03:11 PM
    Please think about what you just said.


    Anything objectionable with what I said?

    Quote from: Prince Spinoza on December 08, 2010, 03:11 PM

    Yes because no one gets pregnant while using contraception.


    Refer to what I said about risks and being prepared to take them.  Life is about risks, which is what makes it interesting.
    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

    One very horny Turk I met on the net.
  • Re: Who else is still a virgin?
     Reply #350 - December 08, 2010, 03:16 PM
    Quote from: ras111 on December 08, 2010, 03:14 PM
    Nothing at all, but those are my personal standards and that is what I go by.


    So it's an unjustifiable arbitrary position.  Afro
  • Re: Who else is still a virgin?
     Reply #351 - December 08, 2010, 03:17 PM
    Quote from: Ishina on December 08, 2010, 03:12 PM
    Why is it significantly different?


    Because of its potential my dear and because of what has a good chance of developing into.
    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

    One very horny Turk I met on the net.
  • Re: Who else is still a virgin?
     Reply #352 - December 08, 2010, 03:18 PM
    There you go with chance again ^
  • Re: Who else is still a virgin?
     Reply #353 - December 08, 2010, 03:18 PM
    Quote from: Ishina on December 08, 2010, 03:10 PM
    There is nothing special about humans.


    Allah says He created us special.
  • Re: Who else is still a virgin?
     Reply #354 - December 08, 2010, 03:19 PM
    ^lol
  • Re: Who else is still a virgin?
     Reply #355 - December 08, 2010, 03:19 PM
    Quote from: ras111 on December 08, 2010, 03:12 PM
    I can hardly put myself in the shoes of a different animal can I?  Especially one that genetically distant.


    You're having no difficulty putting yourself into the shoes of a zygote, something that has less in common with your personality, sensory awareness or worldview than any living animal has.
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Who else is still a virgin?
     Reply #356 - December 08, 2010, 03:20 PM
    Quote from: Prince Spinoza on December 08, 2010, 03:16 PM
    So it's an unjustifiable arbitrary position.  Afro


    No it is not unjustifiable, it is simply a matter of perspective.  I could ask you to explain why you think human life does not begin at the stage I mentioned and what gives you the right to decide when something is human and when it isn't.
    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

    One very horny Turk I met on the net.
  • Re: Who else is still a virgin?
     Reply #357 - December 08, 2010, 03:20 PM
    Quote from: ras111 on December 08, 2010, 03:15 PM

    Refer to what I said about risks and being prepared to take them.  Life is about risks, which is what makes it interesting.


    Yep. Like Sex. And you prepare for the consequences by using protection. And if that fails there are other steps you can take. Abortion, for instance.
  • Re: Who else is still a virgin?
     Reply #358 - December 08, 2010, 03:22 PM
    Quote from: Ishina on December 08, 2010, 03:19 PM
    You're having no difficulty putting yourself into the shoes of a zygote, something that has less in common with your personality, sensory awareness or worldview than any living animal has.


    It is more of a case of me recognising that the zygote is very likely to develop into another person who will have much more in common with me.
    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

    One very horny Turk I met on the net.
  • Re: Who else is still a virgin?
     Reply #359 - December 08, 2010, 03:22 PM
    Quote from: ras111 on December 08, 2010, 03:17 PM
    Because of its potential my dear and because of what has a good chance of developing into.


    You mean its potential to become an ape?
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
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