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OP - November 19, 2010, 09:14 PM

Hi
my name is Mona (means wish or hope in Arabic )
am 21 years old and from Saudia Arabia (wowww i know )
I hate some aspects about Islam like ploygamy and Hejab. I think the ideas about women in Islam are written by male who found women things for sexual gratification for men ( religious men tell us that God has no gender or anything like him , but i find through many versuses that God of Islam is male thinks how to satisfy men to enter this new religion !!).
I started to read and search and I find Iam not the only muslim that I have doubts about Islam and Mohmmad . I will keep my athiesm faith secret thing because I do not want to hurt my family and I cant announce that because of religious environment that I have in my society . Until the changing that I hope come to my country may be I can announce my believe without fearing (so It will be secret forever )

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Reply #1 - November 19, 2010, 09:16 PM

Welcome, Mona

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Re: New Ex Muslim
Reply #2 - November 19, 2010, 09:17 PM

Welcome to the forum!

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Reply #3 - November 19, 2010, 09:24 PM

Welcome Mona

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Reply #4 - November 19, 2010, 09:36 PM

Welcome!
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Re: New Ex Muslim
Reply #5 - November 19, 2010, 09:42 PM

welcome mona. good to hear this site is not blocked in saudi arabia. what caused you to start doubting your religion ?

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Reply #6 - November 19, 2010, 09:43 PM

Welcome to the forum, Mona.

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Re: New Ex Muslim
Reply #7 - November 19, 2010, 09:44 PM

Welcome and enjoy your stay
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Reply #8 - November 19, 2010, 10:56 PM

tell us how you found this forum, and if you know other apostates in Sandy Arabia..

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Re: New Ex Muslim
Reply #9 - November 19, 2010, 11:11 PM

Hello Mona! It's great to have another Saudi here
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Reply #10 - November 19, 2010, 11:25 PM

Welcome Mona!

Great to finally see your intro post!

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Re: New Ex Muslim
Reply #11 - November 20, 2010, 12:16 AM

ahlan wa sahlan ya mona

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Re: New Ex Muslim
Reply #12 - November 20, 2010, 01:21 AM

How come this site is not blocked in K.S.A? Or are you guys using VPN / proxies?

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Until the changing that I hope come to my country may be I can announce my believe

I've recently started to think what it would take to make countries like Saudi Arabia less......mental. It'll have to be something so monumental that it changes the whole world, like maybe aliens visiting earth or meteors hitting all the religious places on Earth (it'll have to be all of them or else the ones unaffected would claim validity of their beliefs). In other words, something has to happen so big and not be caused by any humans, and totally not mentioned in the Quran/Hadith. So I think you're right, you'll have to keep your secret forever.
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Reply #13 - November 20, 2010, 01:48 AM

I think KSA will get better in tome, might take a lot of generations though, and the older generations have to die out first. I have many cousins who wouldn't wear the hijab if they didn't have to, ect. I imagine they wouldn't force their kids, or maybe their grandchildren, and slowly they'll become less and less religious.. Unless something big happens that has the opposite effect
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Reply #14 - November 20, 2010, 02:12 AM

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Unless something big happens that has the opposite effect

Yes there's always a risk of that. When a religion come under fire the followers seem to show more zeal in their beliefs.

People will also make excuses. I know that some Muslims will never accept intelligent life making contact with humans,
"If it was to happen, it would have been mentioned in the Quran or Hadith".
They've also been prepped for it in case it does happen, because I've heard conspiracy theories that 'evil doers' are planning to fake an alien contact.
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Reply #15 - November 20, 2010, 02:46 AM

Hi.. hope you stay safe, Saudia is the worst place for a female ex muslim . You should look into ways of moving out somehow if you can.

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Reply #16 - November 20, 2010, 02:48 AM

Quote from: IGiveUp on November 20, 2010, 02:12 AM
They've also been prepped for it in case it does happen, because I've heard conspiracy theories that 'evil doers' are planning to fake an alien contact.

I'm sure they can't reject it if there are actual aliens popping up in their country, etc.. lol

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Re: New Ex Muslim
Reply #17 - November 20, 2010, 04:07 AM

hello mona.. welcome tp the forum, im also new in here...
well mona, youre not alone, youre not the only one who has to make our apostasy in secret, bcoz of my family, also my country that doesnt accept atheism...

hope we can share about lot things and get lot of in common..
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Reply #18 - November 20, 2010, 04:09 AM

Quote from: donatelo on November 20, 2010, 02:46 AM
Hi.. hope you stay safe, Saudia is the worst place for a female ex muslim . You should look into ways of moving out somehow if you can.

i agree with that,, plan to move out to some places that could accept us to be whatever we want to be, its important
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Re: New Ex Muslim
Reply #19 - November 20, 2010, 08:17 AM

Another proof to show that free thinking is natural and can't be curbed! It rears its head when least expected. Bravo!

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Re: New Ex Muslim
Reply #20 - November 20, 2010, 08:21 AM

Thanks guys
some asked me how I know about this site . first i started to search athiests forum in Arabic language but All of them are blocked
so I srearched in English and I found this site .

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Re: New Ex Muslim
Reply #21 - November 20, 2010, 08:35 AM

one of Mohammd,s Hadith that show how Islam portrayed the role of women in the society look to one Mohmmad,s hadith :
فعن أبي هريرة قال : قال النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم : { إذا دعا الرجل امرأته إلى فراشه فأبت أن تجيء فبات غضبان عليها , لعنتها الملائكة حتى تصبح}متفقعليه) .
The translation :
(If a man calls his wife to his bed and she refuses to come and sleep with him . The Angels curse her until the morning )
That the role of women in Islam to satisfy men sexual desires !!
http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-Arabic-Ask_Scholar/FatwaA/FatwaA&cid=1122528621342

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Reply #22 - November 20, 2010, 09:52 AM

welcome to CEMB forums Mona, you will find this a beautiful place to vent out, you may have to keep your apostacy a secret to yourself and be careful of who you trust and share this with, im in a far liberal place but choose to keep my apostacy to myself.

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Re: New Ex Muslim
Reply #23 - November 20, 2010, 12:35 PM

Welcome Mona

Another sweet hadith re-women is:

لن يفلح قوم ولوا أمرهم إمرأة

People who put a woman in charge of matters will never prosper/be successful
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Re: New Ex Muslim
Reply #24 - November 20, 2010, 03:07 PM

As long the hajj money and most importantly oil money don't stop going to Saudi Arabia, I highly doubt anything would ever happen. US declares war on terror on every freakin muslim country but they would never do it to Saudia. Whole muslim world protect them and most importantly US have economical interests.

May be when oil prices get so high that America and Canada start using its own oil, there might be a chance.

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Reply #25 - November 21, 2010, 03:06 AM

^ Or hopefully when oil is replaced by renewable/synthetic sources of fuel/solar energy!

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Re: New Ex Muslim
Reply #26 - November 21, 2010, 09:26 AM

Quote from: Mona on November 19, 2010, 09:14 PM
I will keep my athiesm faith secret thing because I do not want to hurt my family and I cant announce that because of religious environment that I have in my society . Until the changing that I hope come to my country may be I can announce my believe without fearing (so It will be secret forever )

Same here. At least I know that I'm not alone.

Welcome Mona. Hope to see you around.

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