And HO you don't speak for all Muslims, I'm pretty sure I wasn't like you as a muslim even if we prayed and performed the same religious activities.
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You think a moderate, liberal Muslim would side with you on issues such as banning ISOCs and minarets?
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They would switch, and would roll their eyes if you claimed it was because of false grievances. They would label you as an arrogant bigot with zero empathy. And they would not be intellectually impressed with your arguments.
Thank you also for the rebuke, good sir.
Mate, I don't expect many moderates to agree with me any of the bans - but that said there are MODERATE MUSLIM who would
BAN Sharia [BLOG LINK],
Burkas [NEWS LINK],
Zakir Naik [BLOG LINK]. *Stretches hand and fingers* - yeah I think I can convince them to ban ISOCs, Minarets too!
See - I told you - I'm arrogant BD. billy would never post in my style in a million years. We agree on a lot of things but he has a gift of INTIMACY with others. I'm just freaking bold and belligerent. Even Alan Sugar understands it's not the best characteristic to have. People skills matter in life - am I'm fully honest about my limitations.
Time for closure on this thread I think ... I'm not seem to be getting across to others, rebukes welcome though.
@Q-Man: cogdis -
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=cogdis .
Mate, you're such a relativist your insults and "BEST SHUT THE &^% UP" comments even point it out.
I see that relativism also accounts for your cogdis: The bans that I propose are not oppressive btw. For real oppression - go to Iran.
Good idea on Ataturk: go ahead and do the poll. Ataturk proves (in my opinion) you can improve Muslim people for their own benefit by weeding out the degrading and backward Islamic memes.
I told you - the impact of those bans which I described were my thoughts. Frankly, it is a lot more realistic than the, "thin end of the wedge that will create concentration camps for all Muslims", which is what you've concluded! Torn between
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I do take "blowbacks" and negative consequences into consideration in my thought experiments. Firstly: France, Switzerland, Belgium are being guinea pigs for the UK. Secondly, such bans aren't exactly going to freakin war in another country. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE!
If you don't get why "false grievances" are false grievances - it shows you suffer from it big-time. But here you go: take a Muslim from the UK, who has NO RELATIONS to people in Palestine, feed them hatred about Jews, and before you know it there is a false connection via the Islamic memplex which makes them angry and hurt when there are stories of Israeli commandos killing Palestine on boats when in REALITY such a Muslim does not give a bloomin damn about what's happening to the Kurds.
Just ask yourself why it that you don’t get is so upset or angry by billy's posts as much as you seem to do by my posts, over the many points we OVERLAP on? Yes I know billy isn't as bold as me with certain thoughts, but we overlap on plenty.
@ateapotist: I see what your saying but there a link. Takes ages to write and explain. Tell you what, it's one topic for a face to face meet up sometime. If I don’t convince you on a minaret and ISOC ban, then I will buy you a beer or several soft drinks hahaha!
And one more thing: these bans that I support - it isn't part of a totalitarian regime for goodness sakes! They are dampers on extreme and ill-fitting memes that without forceful mind indoctrination would have no rightful place in a developed society. Progress people, I think about progress - not authoritarianism or controlling people for fun. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE!
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