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 Topic: Open Letter to the American Left Establishment protesting Obama

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  • Open Letter to the American Left Establishment protesting Obama
     OP - December 10, 2010, 06:48 PM

    http://protestobama.org/

    fuck you
  • Re: Open Letter to the American Left Establishment protesting Obama
     Reply #1 - December 10, 2010, 09:51 PM

    Yup Obama will definitely be a one term president.
  • Re: Open Letter to the American Left Establishment protesting Obama
     Reply #2 - December 10, 2010, 10:07 PM

    Before the election I said whoever got elected, Obama or McCain, would be a one-termer, because this economic crisis is deep enough to where it could not be fixed in one term even if either candidate were prepared to do what is necessary to give relief to the American working-class, which neither was. Obama only made things worse by he and his Democratic Congressional allies squandering their political capital and time, and fucking over their base by refusing to pass EFCA, not being aggressive and organized enough to push and sustain a real comprehensive health care reform program, and voting for bailouts that helped the wealthy more than the working-class. Fuck em.

    fuck you
  • Re: Open Letter to the American Left Establishment protesting Obama
     Reply #3 - December 10, 2010, 10:13 PM

    The 2008 Election was nothing but a popularity contest. There were better candidates who ran for President but in the end we got stuck with Obama and McCain.
  • Re: Open Letter to the American Left Establishment protesting Obama
     Reply #4 - December 10, 2010, 10:14 PM

    But but but... yes we can?

    At evening, casual flocks of pigeons make
    Ambiguous undulations as they sink,
    Downward to darkness, on extended wings. - Stevens
  • Re: Open Letter to the American Left Establishment protesting Obama
     Reply #5 - December 10, 2010, 10:16 PM

    The 2008 Election was nothing but a popularity contest. There were better candidates who ran for President but in the end we got stuck with Obama and McCain.


    I'd love to see a Feingold vs. Paul contest. Will never happen though.

    But but but... yes we can?


    Yes he did...fuck us over.

    fuck you
  • Re: Open Letter to the American Left Establishment protesting Obama
     Reply #6 - December 10, 2010, 10:19 PM

    By paul you mean Ron Paul? The only mainstream politician in the world that understands how badly the bankers have fucked over the rest?
    He's a republican but I would have voted for him

    At evening, casual flocks of pigeons make
    Ambiguous undulations as they sink,
    Downward to darkness, on extended wings. - Stevens
  • Re: Open Letter to the American Left Establishment protesting Obama
     Reply #7 - December 10, 2010, 10:24 PM

    Yes, Ron Paul. I'd vote for Feingold over Paul without a doubt, but I'd probably vote for Paul over the major GOP and Dem candidates in 08. Though I dunno-- my fear with Ron Paul is the good parts of his platform would be stopped by Congress (end to Drug War and imperialist foreign policy), but the bad parts (gutting every fuckin social program out there and dismantling labor and environmental protections) would go through. So, come to think of it, if it were gonna be the same yahoos in Congress, I wouldn't vote for Paul. But I woulda rather have seen him been the GOP's pick than any of those other assholes he was running against.

    fuck you
  • Re: Open Letter to the American Left Establishment protesting Obama
     Reply #8 - December 10, 2010, 10:25 PM

    I'd love to see a Feingold vs. Paul contest. Will never happen though.

    Yes he did...fuck us over.


     Cheesy

     Agree
  • Re: Open Letter to the American Left Establishment protesting Obama
     Reply #9 - December 10, 2010, 11:12 PM

    By paul you mean Ron Paul? The only mainstream politician in the world that understands how badly the bankers have fucked over the rest?
    He's a republican but I would have voted for him


     I knew it wouldn't make a difference but I voted for Ron Paul in 2008. He is one of the few politicians I respect on the Left or the Right.

    "And lo, verily hath they spoken, not one of this tribe, upon whom these entreaties were beseeched for the Lord, could giveth a shit."


    Read my blog here: http://dimunituvediva.wordpress.com/
  • Re: Open Letter to the American Left Establishment protesting Obama
     Reply #10 - December 11, 2010, 07:12 AM

    Dont blame me...I voted for the ghost of Theodore Roosevelt.
    He'd bust those trusts, and then build a canal and beat up a lion, just for kicks


    The foundation of superstition is ignorance, the
    superstructure is faith and the dome is a vain hope. Superstition
    is the child of ignorance and the mother of misery.
    -Robert G. Ingersoll (1898)

     "Do time ninjas have this ability?" "Yeah. Only they stay silent and aren't douchebags."  -Ibl
  • Re: Open Letter to the American Left Establishment protesting Obama
     Reply #11 - December 11, 2010, 11:01 AM


    you guys are discussing everything  except the letter and the views of those who have written.,   Let me circulate this letter to those who have signed that letter., that letter which  says

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    Along the way, the Obama administration, which referred to its left detractors as “f***ing retarded” individuals that required “drug testing,” stepped up the prosecution of federal war crime whistleblowers, and unleashed the FBI on those protesting the escalation of an insane war.

      here is the letter to those who wrote that..

    "An Open Letter to right, left and center who do not practice what Allah preached " 

    http://www.freedombulwark.net/my-blog/islamic-jihad-is-not-fictional-qaedas-letter.html


    What if President Obama makes peace with Osama? What if India vacates Kashmir? What if Russia moves out from Chechnya? will  there be peace and no more terrorism in this world.??  Terrorism is not an end; it is means to an end i.e. for achieving political or personal objectives. Present day Islamic terrorism or revival of Islamism or Islamic Jihad, whatever one likes to call, is global in character. There are few countries today which are untouched by this Islamic Jihad. Yet, people have misconceptions about this Islamic violent Jihad; many innocently and ignorantly believe that this terrorism is reactionary to globalization, political stand offs like Palestine, Chechnya and Kashmir.  let us read the letter


    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/nov/24/alqaida.terrorism
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    In the Name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful,

    "Permission to fight (against disbelievers) is given to those (believers) who are fought against, because they have been wronged and surely, Allah is Able to give them (believers) victory" [Quran 22:39]

    "Those who believe, fight in the Cause of Allah, and those who disbelieve, fight in the cause of Taghut (anything worshipped other than Allah e.g. Satan). So fight you against the friends of Satan; ever feeble is indeed the plot of Satan."[Quran 4:76]
    .............................................
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    When the Muslims conquered Palestine and drove out the Romans, Palestine and Jerusalem returned to Islaam, the religion of all the Prophets peace be upon them. Therefore, the call to a historical right to Palestine cannot be raised against the Islamic Ummah that believes in all the Prophets of Allah (peace and blessings be upon them) - and we make no distinction between them.

    (iii) The blood pouring out of Palestine must be equally revenged. You must know that the Palestinians do not cry alone; their women are not widowed alone; their sons are not orphaned alone.

    (b) You attacked us in Somalia; you supported the Russian atrocities against us in Chechnya, the Indian oppression against us in Kashmir, and the Jewish aggression against us in Lebanon.


    .......................................................

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    (g) You have supported the Jews in their idea that Jerusalem is their eternal capital, and agreed to move your embassy there. With your help and under your protection, the Israelis are planning to destroy the Al-Aqsa mosque. Under the protection of your weapons, Sharon entered the Al-Aqsa mosque, to pollute it as a preparation to capture and destroy it.

    (2) These tragedies and calamities are only a few examples of your oppression and aggression against us. It is commanded by our religion and intellect that the oppressed have a right to return the aggression. Do not await anything from us but Jihad, resistance and revenge. Is it in any way rational to expect that after America has attacked us for more than half a century, that we will then leave her to live in security and peace?!!

    (3) You may then dispute that all the above does not justify aggression against civilians, for crimes they did not commit and offenses in which they did not partake:

    ............................................
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    (f) Allah, the Almighty, legislated the permission and the option to take revenge. Thus, if we are attacked, then we have the right to attack back. Whoever has destroyed our villages and towns, then we have the right to destroy their villages and towns. Whoever has stolen our wealth, then we have the right to destroy their economy. And whoever has killed our civilians, then we have the right to kill theirs.


    The American Government and press still refuses to answer the question:

    Why did they attack us in New York and Washington?

    If Sharon is a man of peace in the eyes of Bush, then we are also men of peace!!! America does not understand the language of manners and principles, so we are addressing it using the language it understands.

    (Q2) As for the second question that we want to answer: What are we calling you to, and what do we want from you?

    (1) The first thing that we are calling you to is Islam.

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    (a) The religion of the Unification of God; of freedom from associating partners with Him, and rejection of this; of complete love of Him, the Exalted; of complete submission to His Laws; and of the discarding of all the opinions, orders, theories and religions which contradict with the religion He sent down to His Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). Islam is the religion of all the prophets, and makes no distinction between them - peace be upon them all.

    It is to this religion that we call you; the seal of all the previous religions. It is the religion of Unification of God, sincerity, the best of manners, righteousness, mercy, honour, purity, and piety. It is the religion of showing kindness to others, establishing justice between them, granting them their rights, and defending the oppressed and the persecuted. It is the religion of enjoining the good and forbidding the evil with the hand, tongue and heart. It is the religion of Jihad in the way of Allah so that Allah's Word and religion reign Supreme. And it is the religion of unity and agreement on the obedience to Allah, and total equality between all people, without regarding their colour, sex, or language.

    .................................

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    (i) You are the nation who, rather than ruling by the Shariah of Allah in its Constitution and Laws, choose to invent your own laws as you will and desire. You separate religion from your policies, contradicting the pure nature which affirms Absolute Authority to the Lord and your Creator. You flee from the embarrassing question posed to you: How is it possible for Allah the Almighty to create His creation, grant them power over all the creatures and land, grant them all the amenities of life, and then deny them that which they are most in need of: knowledge of the laws which govern their lives?

    (ii) You are the nation that permits Usury, which has been forbidden by all the religions. Yet you build your economy and investments on Usury. As a result of this, in all its different forms and guises, the Jews have taken control of your economy, through which they have then taken control of your media, and now control all aspects of your life making you their servants and achieving their aims at your expense; precisely what Benjamin Franklin warned you against.

    (iii) You are a nation that permits the production, trading and usage of intoxicants. You also permit drugs, and only forbid the trade of them, even though your nation is the largest consumer of them.

    (iv) You are a nation that permits acts of immorality, and you consider them to be pillars of personal freedom. You have continued to sink down this abyss from level to level until incest has spread amongst you, in the face of which neither your sense of honour nor your laws object.

    ...............................................................

    (e)You have claimed to be the vanguards of Human Rights, and your Ministry of Foreign affairs issues annual reports containing statistics of those countries that violate any Human Rights. However, all these things vanished when the Mujahideen hit you, and you then implemented the methods of the same documented governments that you used to curse. In America, you captured thousands the Muslims and Arabs, took them into custody with neither reason, court trial, nor even disclosing their names. You issued newer, harsher laws.

    What happens in Guatanamo is a historical embarrassment to America and its values, and it screams into your faces - you hypocrites, "What is the value of your signature on any agreement or treaty?"

    (3) What we call you to thirdly is to take an honest stance with yourselves - and I doubt you will do so - to discover that you are a nation without principles or manners, and that the values and principles to you are something which you merely demand from others, not that which you yourself must adhere to.

    (4) We also advise you to stop supporting Israel, and to end your support of the Indians in Kashmir, the Russians against the Chechens and to also cease supporting the Manila Government against the Muslims in Southern Philippines.

    (5) We also advise you to pack your luggage and get out of our lands. We desire for your goodness, guidance, and righteousness, so do not force us to send you back as cargo in coffins.

    (6) Sixthly, we call upon you to end your support of the corrupt leaders in our countries. Do not interfere in our politics and method of education. Leave us alone, or else expect us in New York and Washington.

    (7) We also call you to deal with us and interact with us on the basis of mutual interests and benefits, rather than the policies of sub dual, theft and occupation, and not to continue your policy of supporting the Jews because this will result in more disasters for you.

    If you fail to respond to all these conditions, then prepare for fight with the Islamic Nation. The Nation of Monotheism, that puts complete trust on Allah and fears none other than Him. The Nation which is addressed by its Quran with the words: "Do you fear them? Allah has more right that you should fear Him if you are believers. Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of believing people. And remove the anger of their (believers') hearts. Allah accepts the repentance of whom He wills. Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise." [Quran9:13-1]

    The Nation of honour and respect:

    "But honour, power and glory belong to Allah, and to His Messenger (Muhammad- peace be upon him) and to the believers." [Quran 63:8]

    "So do not become weak (against your enemy), nor be sad, and you will be*superior ( in victory )if you are indeed (true) believers" [Quran 3:139]

    The Nation of Martyrdom; the Nation that desires death more than you desire life:

    "Think not of those who are killed in the way of Allah as dead. Nay, they are alive with their Lord, and they are being provided for. They rejoice in what Allah has bestowed upon them from His bounty and rejoice for the sake of those who have not yet joined them, but are left behind (not yet martyred) that on them no fear shall come, nor shall they grieve. They rejoice in a grace and a bounty from Allah, and that Allah will not waste the reward of the believers." [Quran 3:169-171]

    The Nation of victory and success that Allah has promised:

    "It is He Who has sent His Messenger (Muhammad peace be upon him) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam), to make it victorious over all other religions even though the Polytheists hate it." [Quran 61:9]

    "Allah has decreed that 'Verily it is I and My Messengers who shall be victorious.' Verily Allah is All-Powerful, All-Mighty." [Quran 58:21]

    The Islamic Nation that was able to dismiss and destroy the previous evil Empires like yourself; the Nation that rejects your attacks, wishes to remove your evils, and is prepared to fight you. You are well aware that the Islamic Nation, from the very core of its soul, despises your haughtiness and arrogance.

    If the Americans refuse to listen to our advice and the goodness, guidance and righteousness that we call them to, then be aware that you will lose this Crusade Bush began, just like the other previous Crusades in which you were humiliated by the hands of the Mujahideen, fleeing to your home in great silence and disgrace. If the Americans do not respond, then their fate will be that of the Soviets who fled from Afghanistan to deal with their military defeat, political breakup, ideological downfall, and economic bankruptcy.

    This is our message to the Americans, as an answer to theirs. Do they now know why we fight them and over which form of ignorance, by the permission of Allah, we shall be victorious?


    it is only partial letter.. read the rest at the link

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
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