^^^^Fuckin schooled, duck
schooled on what?
"Ok, so you've totally missed the point. Cool.
The point was that you made a blanket statement about Christians. I then pointed out an example of a Christian who had done what you said Christians didn't do. You then changed your definition of Christians to suit the new information. That is classic NTS fallacy."
^^^I didn't change the definition. Read again. I asked you to find out the true definition of scotsmen. The teacher claims all scotsmen loves heggies. But is that true? if my local priest tells me to burn a witch, would that be biblical? he might say "it is biblical, jesus ordered us to murder witches and anyone who doesnt murder witches is not a Chritian. All true christians will murder witches" << But is the priest's definition of a true christian correct? To find that out, I would have to refere to the Bible, not scotsmen!
Few hours ago i had a muslim come in and tell me that proverbs 5:15 orders christians to drink their own pee. If you read the verse, it will indeed look like god is telling you to drink your own pee. But then I read the previous and next 5 verses and it was pretty clear god was telling me to make use of my own wife and not commit adultery with whores. See? the muslim had his own explanation/definition and God had his own.
You are forcing me to believe that I'm committing NTS fallacy. Yes I made a blanket assumption on Christians that those who will follow the true teachings and interpretations of the Bible will stick to the ten commandments and will not pay heed to the sexual urge of a local priest who dreamt that I should give him my 4 year old for sex. He will be skeptical and doubtful if a priest tells him to murder people. sorry but bible doesn't teach murder and stuff that Quran teaches.
Then you say I changed the definition? Who am I to change the definition? I have always stuck to the one and only definition which is that Jesus atoned for our sins and fulfilled the old laws and brought with him new laws in the New testament and we must adhere to his law, not Moses.
Plagarazing from the internet:
1) “You shall have no other gods before me.” This command is against worshipping any god other than the one true God. All other gods are false gods.
2) “You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments.” This command is against making an idol, a visible representation of God. There is no image we can create that can accurately portray God. To make an idol to represent God is to worship a false god.
3) “You shall not misuse the name of the LORD your God, for the LORD will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses His name.” This is a command against taking the name of the Lord in vain. We are not to treat God’s name lightly. We are to show reverence to God by only mentioning Him in respectful and honoring ways.
4) “Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the LORD your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your manservant or maidservant, nor your animals, nor the alien within your gates. For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.” This is a command to set aside the Sabbath (Saturday, the last day of the week) as a day of rest dedicated to the Lord.
5) “Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the LORD your God is giving you.” This is a command to always treat one’s parents with honor and respect.
6) “You shall not murder.” This is a command against the premeditated murder of another human being.
7) “You shall not commit adultery.” This is a command against have sexual relations with anyone other than one’s spouse.
“You shall not steal.” This is a command against taking anything that is not one’s own, without the permission of the person to whom it belongs.
9) “You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.” This is a command prohibiting testifying against another person falsely. It is essentially a command against lying.
10) “You shall not covet your neighbor's house. You shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his manservant or maidservant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.” This is a command against desiring anything that is not one’s own. Coveting can lead to breaking one of the commandments listed above: murder, adultery, and theft. If it is wrong to do something, it is wrong to desire to do that same something.
Source:
http://www.gotquestions.org/Ten-Commandments.htmlNow read my posts and show me where I changed my definition of a true christian. it's not like i said "christians should murder" and then later changed it to "they shouldn't"
The christian guy who killed the bride and bridegroom didn't follow a single commandment of the above. If the muslim was his enemy, he not only NOT love and bless him, but he killed him.
How do you expect me to call him a true follower of Christ, his teachings and his examples?
Compared to that, read 600 non-abrogated verses of the Quran that teach muslims how to behead non-muslms' head wherever and whenever they are found given that they don't believe in Allah and the last day.
And where in your monkey god's holy book does it say "though shall not lie with your own mother"? Excuse me even if he doesn't have book, did he ever at least tell you such a thing before he died?
Like einstein said, "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind"
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"Does your chewing gum lose its flavour on the bedpost overnight?" << no. stop trying to appear like a smart ass. you didn't answer the question.
"You don't seem to know a lot about your chosen religion. Why did you choose it then?" Oh u think I'm all-knowing? i'm a human being and imperfect. not everyone knows everything. I was being honest. If i don't know something or not sure of something, i will do a heavy research before commenting on it. I will need evidence to back up my claim. I will not simply not listen to a random wanker who said my ancestors came out of a monkey's ass
I will talk with the reverend of my church and get back to that topic.
"Couple of points here. First, it's uncertain if Jesus did do that. It could be one of the later additions to the Bible. Bear in mind that none of the people who wrote the Gospels were eyewitnesses. The Gospels were written some decades after Jesus' death and they were written from hearsay. "
^^^^That's what muslims also say when speaking of the bible: "brother brother bible has been corrupt. this has been deleted and this has been added omg our quran is uncorrupt brother!"
So the verses containing stoning and violence in both the OT and NT are uncorrupt according to you, and the verse in which jesus forgives the adulterer was added to it later? Do you see the double standard here? You are saying one part of teh bible is uncorrupt, to strengthen your argument. Then you're saying that another part of the bible is corrupt/modified to weaken your opponent's argument. What sets you apart from the muslims who will quote verses from the Bible to prove Muhammed was mentioned in it and then says that other verses where jesus claimed divinity were corrupted/modified/added? I don't see a lot of difference between you and a suicide bomb-belt wearing muzzie I'm afraid! Preach on brother!
we are under the law of Christ (Galatians 6:2), which is to “love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind…and to love your neighbor as yourself” (Matthew 22:37-39). If we obey those two commands, we will be fulfilling all that Christ requires of us: “All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments” and all the laws and prophets don't hang on to Osmanathus's laws, which is that adulterers should be stoned to death
yes he did support all those but for a reason. Human beings are sinners. And god becomes angry when what he created commits sin. He is righteous and so his punishment is just. If he doesn't judge a criminal, he is not a perfect judge. We know god can not be imperfect. And so therefore, he must punish his children when they go against the laws. That's what we find in the OT.
Are you saying that your parents never beat you or scolded you when you as a child committed childish mischief (stealing money from dad's pocket, having a fight with fellow siblings, arguing with parents about stuff etc etc). Did you expect to go against the laws of your parents and get away with that? Were you never given a probation by your parents? Was I not beaten up in school by teachers by not doing my homework? Did my mom never beat me up when I didn't eat food regularly (when I was a kid)
Let me ask you question: So do the above-mentioned acts commited by my teachers and parents mean they didn't LOVE me and hated me instead? Nope. they did that all to help me differentiate the good from the bad, the right from wrong.
When you steal money from your work and/or fail to perform a duty that you are supposed to carry out, why does your boss get angry and fire you or punish you? ohhhhhhhhhhhh he is so violent right? a boss can't be so violent right? Do you want him to give you a candy when you turn up late for work?
So, therefore, god sent his son to earth to atone for all our sins and also fulfill the prophecies and the old laws of Moses. we are now under the new laws including the ten commandments, not the laws of the Moses. Get it out of your brain that adulterers, homosexuals etc etc should be stoned to death. whoever says that is outright going against God's teachings. Refer to the ten commandments.
What I find to be very funny is: Here in the west and europe muslims are being violent and murderous simply by following the quran and hadith and people are defending them. And christians are peaceful, non-murderous and non-violent by default and people are out to make them look violent.
9/11 didn't teach you people enough lesson. I am telling you...tomorrow if you wake up to find your mother raped by a true follower of muhammed and brother beheaded by a muslim, you will find yourself blaming muhammed, not jesus
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