WikiLeaks cables: Bangladeshi 'death squad' trained by UK government

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WikiLeaks cables: Bangladeshi 'death squad' trained by UK government
OP - December 22, 2010, 12:16 AM

The British government has been training a Bangladeshi paramilitary force condemned by human rights organisations as a "government death squad", leaked US embassy cables have revealed.

Since the RAB was established six years ago, it is estimated by some human rights activists to have been responsible for more than 1,000 extra-judicial killings, described euphemistically as "crossfire" deaths. In September last year the director general of the RAB said his men had killed 577 people in "crossfire". In March this year he updated the figure, saying they had killed 622 people.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/21/wikileaks-cables-british-police-bangladesh-death-squad
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Reply #1 - December 22, 2010, 12:25 AM

and once again, the UK is either involved or the direct cause of terrorism and regional instability...

and yet, how dare we question the official story when terrorism happens in the west..how very unpatriotic of us..
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Reply #2 - December 22, 2010, 12:29 AM

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Asked whether it believed it was appropriate for British officers to be training members of an organisation condemned as "a government death squad", and whether courses in investigative interviewing techniques might not render torture more effective, an NPIA spokesman said the courses had been approved by the government and by the Association of Chief Police Officers.

"The NPIA has given limited support to the Bangladeshi Police and the RAB in technical areas of policing such as forensic awareness, management of crime scenes and recovery of evidence. Throughout the training we have emphasised the importance of respecting the human rights of witnesses, suspects and victims."The purpose of our sanctioned engagement is to support the development and improvement of professional policing that supports democratic, human rights-based practices linked to the rule of law in countries that may have different laws, faiths and policing practices from our own."

Yup, obviously they are involved in training death squads.

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Reply #3 - December 22, 2010, 12:45 AM

I guess human rights activists are only being truthful when they criticise Iran or Saudi. Criticising western countries? It must be lies!
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Reply #4 - December 22, 2010, 12:48 AM

You missed the point.

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Reply #5 - December 22, 2010, 01:21 AM

What was that?

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Reply #6 - December 22, 2010, 01:29 AM

Somehow I'm not that surprised ....

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Reply #7 - December 22, 2010, 01:56 AM

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It is understood that there have been disagreements within the Foreign Office about the British government's involvement with the RAB. Some officials have argued that the partnership with the RAB is an essential component of the UK's counter-terrorism strategy in the region, while others have expressed concern that the relationship could prove damaging to Britain's reputation.

The latter more than the former.

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Reply #8 - December 22, 2010, 10:50 PM

Quote from: Q-Man on December 22, 2010, 01:21 AM
What was that?

The point is that the training is not in "death squad shit" per se and is in fact quite the opposite of that (despite what the headline would have you believe) and that the training is being provided to the Bangla govt forces as a whole. The RAB just gets the training as part of the whole. So, it's not quite what the headline presents it as being.

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Reply #9 - December 22, 2010, 11:36 PM

http://www.soaw.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=226

You don't think the SAS/SIS does shit like this? ^^^^

Fact is they are training forces that they know damn well are participating in extra-judicial executions. Death squads don't get special "death squad" training, but they do receive general counterinsurgency training. That's the way it's always been. They're not doing anything differently here than the CIA did in South America when it gave tools, training and money to people they knew damn well were gonna do some nasty shit with it.

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Reply #10 - December 22, 2010, 11:45 PM

The article is about British cops providing some training. You know, Constable Plod, not the SAS.

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Reply #11 - December 23, 2010, 12:04 AM

So? Brit government is training an outfit known to regularly use torture and murder-- could care less what particular department or agency is doing it.

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Reply #12 - December 23, 2010, 12:39 AM

Again:

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"The NPIA has given limited support to the Bangladeshi Police and the RAB in technical areas of policing such as forensic awareness, management of crime scenes and recovery of evidence. Throughout the training we have emphasised the importance of respecting the human rights of witnesses, suspects and victims."

The purpose of our sanctioned engagement is to support the development and improvement of professional policing that supports democratic, human rights-based practices linked to the rule of law in countries that may have different laws, faiths and policing practices from our own."

Now, while I agree that this would not be happening in a perfect world, I still say it's not nearly as bad as the headline tries to make out.

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