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OP - December 30, 2010, 05:27 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU6bc_Gsp7s
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Reply #1 - December 30, 2010, 05:34 PM

Very good, especially on dealing with crises. Thanks for posting.

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Reply #2 - January 03, 2011, 10:07 AM

always loved videos from theramintress and qualiasoup....

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Reply #3 - January 03, 2011, 10:16 PM

me too

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Reply #4 - January 03, 2011, 10:38 PM

Thank you, Hassan.

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Reply #5 - January 03, 2011, 10:43 PM

Saw this a few days ago (I actually subscribed to Qualia Soup from seeing it on this forum!) and it is a fantastic video. It really has some great arguments, particularly liked the bit on pain and children without nerve endings causing damage to themselves as well as the bit on living to see knowledge overcome ignorance. Hopefully we can live to see that day (maybe I am being too optimistic, but sue me).
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Reply #6 - January 03, 2011, 11:11 PM

What I liked even better was The Instruction Manual for Life:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAIpRRZvnJg

Such a profoundly moving video. Goes to remind us of ourselves.

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Reply #7 - January 04, 2011, 01:47 AM

Ive always loved that video - Someone should post this on sunnimuslim forum

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Reply #8 - January 04, 2011, 03:04 AM

Nice
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Reply #9 - January 04, 2011, 03:42 PM

Whenever this question is posed to me by a religious person I cannot help but to respond
"With my lack of religion I have many reasons to live. What has religion done to you to make your life so bad that all you have to look forward to is dying?"

I don't come here any more due to unfair moderation.
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Reply #10 - January 04, 2011, 03:54 PM

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Reply #11 - January 04, 2011, 09:39 PM

Quote from: IsLame on January 04, 2011, 01:47 AM
Ive always loved that video - Someone should post this on sunnimuslim forum

Which one were you referring to?

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Reply #12 - January 04, 2011, 09:47 PM

the one you posted

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Reply #13 - January 08, 2011, 08:57 AM

Quote from: TheRationalizer on January 04, 2011, 03:42 PM
Whenever this question is posed to me by a religious person I cannot help but to respond
"With my lack of religion I have many reasons to live. What has religion done to you to make your life so bad that all you have to look forward to is dying?"

that is brilliant..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV9vdUjuWxc
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Reply #14 - January 08, 2011, 09:13 AM

Sadly this is true. When I was religious I kind of wished that death would hurry up so that I could "move on" to the next stage of human existence. Since my deconversation, I wish I could be immortal, not because I fear death, but because I feel closer to my fellow human beings and I am truly sad that I won't be able to see the whole story of the human race, to enjoy meeting people with their unique stories, the ups and downs, and really get to know people.

So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
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Reply #15 - January 08, 2011, 11:25 AM

Everything in this world is too insignificant for you to die for over them.
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Reply #16 - January 18, 2011, 12:30 AM

Overall it looks like a very valuable video, especially for young people in crisis. However the very beginning was mystifying to me when the connection between disbelief and suicide was made. For whatever reason I always felt there's more not less reason to live if there's no God...

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Reply #17 - April 04, 2014, 06:29 PM

A meaningful life without the afterlife
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeMoOJpvUlU&list=FLLhtZqdkjshgq8TqwIjMdCQ

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Reply #18 - June 27, 2014, 11:29 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DInM8zw4w4s

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Reply #19 - June 27, 2014, 02:22 PM

Quote from: confusedagno on June 27, 2014, 11:29 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DInM8zw4w4s

I just made this comment on that video:

To be fair many Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus etc... do indeed do their best to alleviate the suffering of others whether it be on a personal level or as part of a charity etc - just as much as atheists, agnostics, non-religious etc. It may simply help them psychologically to cope with such suffering, to think that those who suffer will be in a better place. Having such a belief doesn't necessarily preclude doing your level best to change a situation.
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Reply #20 - June 27, 2014, 02:30 PM

Quote from: Hassan on June 27, 2014, 02:22 PM
I just made this comment on that video:

To be fair many Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus etc... do indeed do their best to alleviate the suffering of others ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Nope .. I WILL NOT BE FAIR FOR THESE RASCALS ..

all those guys have ulterior motive of going to their heaven by giving a bit to so-called poor folks or helping others, Mostly to their own groups. Off course there are exceptions. But That does very little for building long lasting institutions to server humanity or for other living things of this planet..

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Reply #21 - June 27, 2014, 02:39 PM

Quote from: Hassan on June 27, 2014, 02:22 PM
I just made this comment on that video:

To be fair many Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus etc... do indeed do their best to alleviate the suffering of others whether it be on a personal level or as part of a charity etc - just as much as atheists, agnostics, non-religious etc. It may simply help them psychologically to cope with such suffering, to think that those who suffer will be in a better place. Having such a belief doesn't necessarily preclude doing your level best to change a situation.

While I agree with your point, what I like about her video is she is giving a positive spin on living life as an atheist. That yes while religious people may be doing things to reduce pain and suffering on earth their purpose is to gain some benefits or score points with god while we on the other hand do these things to make the world we live in here and now a better place.

She puts a positive spin on our worldview which speaking for myself some of us need some times.

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Reply #22 - June 27, 2014, 02:52 PM

First of all, to the person calling himself "Yeezevee" who's reply was coherent and normal: "What have you done with the real - and totally insane & incoherent Yeezevee?"

Secondly to both (Yeez & Confused) - I take the point about Atheists positive attitude - but I still think it is rather unfair and harsh on the very many Christians, Muslims etc... to dismiss their actions as being for selfish reasons of reward etc... when very many do their best to help others without any intention of reward.

Bear in min the vast majority of believers of all faiths worldwide are not really very 'religious' yet still have a vague belief in some sort of "better place" - without it meaning their acts are any less selfless.

I'm on a 'let's be fair' crusade these days.
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Reply #23 - June 27, 2014, 02:57 PM

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I'm on a 'let's be fair' crusade these days.

Always knew you were a Zionist crusader paid by the Illuminati and working for the dajjal, Hassan.
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Reply #24 - June 27, 2014, 03:01 PM

Quote from: happymurtad on June 27, 2014, 02:57 PM
Always knew you were a Zionist crusader paid by the Illuminati and working for the dajjal, Hassan.

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Reply #25 - June 27, 2014, 03:06 PM

Seriously though, I don't like to get too complacent in my views and I'm always checking myself - probably too much, but at the end of the day if I hadn't been like that I wouldn't have questioned Islam. So I'm always wary of 'group-think'.
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Reply #26 - June 27, 2014, 03:08 PM

im not a fan of genralisations either, but right now I need to be a bit anti religion to pass this phase

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Reply #27 - June 27, 2014, 03:09 PM

That's quite understandable
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Reply #28 - June 27, 2014, 03:10 PM

sorry double post
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Reply #29 - July 01, 2014, 04:13 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVsXO9brK7M&hd=1

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