can people not come over to sunniforum.com, start a thread with a question and try dealing with the rational responses to their warped-rationality-leading-themselvesp-and-the-other-poor-fools-to-abyss if at all you really are interested in rationality....of course, decency is a pre requisite, which any proper human will respect?
i'm very interested in 'rationality'(always hated this word but whatever, just a personal gripe), but i'd prefer not to debate at sunniforum. i don't really feel like it and i'm pretty much done with the concept of god, there's so much more interesting questions and it's a horse that has been beaten to death. god is a non-issue for me, and i don't feel i must proselytise it to muslims. if you wanna believe, be my guest; just don't shove your beliefs down my throat and i'll be cool with it.
but wait... we aren't cool with it. you wanna know why? because the vast majority of the members of this forum cannot even begin to deal with the fallout of 'coming out' as an apostate. we are repressed and forced into a closet for what is perceived as our identifying trait; what we
used to be. that's why some of us have hostility towards muslims, and that is why some of us do describe you as warped. doesn't mean all muslims are warped, but in moments of massive stress, could you really blame somebody for making an overbearing, sweeping generalization? i define myself as an ex-muslim because people(including members of my family) would KILL ME FOR BEING THAT. it's not something i like to define myself as, but it's something i must do, and must make known as we're all in a fight for our right to exist peacefully.
If you want rationality, try to ask yourselves if you have studied islam enough, tried to understand if it is really a blind belief - you think crores of practicing ones, from all sorts of intelligent backgrounds as well, are just following a dogma - dont have rationality in it? accept the apparent pain of following the various beautiful disciplines of the religion just like that?...
some people don't have blind belief in islam, i'll agree there. some people blindly are atheists, i'll also agree there. whether somebody has 'blind faith' or not is entirely dependant upon the person.
Please understand this, you guys just wanted freedom of the lower self...that seems to be your predisposition...and then clutched on to whatever warped logic you got in a convincing package of theoretic rationality - Islam is all about going against the lower, base self! If at all you read something, which is obvious you did, please ask yourself if you did not have your presumptuous dispositions and colored spectacles of disbelief and skepticism on, even before you read islam and naturally, picked in all the right things in a stupidly wrong way!....man, I shall pray for you guys, since there seem to be some who just didnt find some good sources to get their info from, and ended up gulping in and digesting all the poison thats there in all forms of media against islam and died off from islam...
oh fuck you. i'm a virgin and i've never had a girlfriend before. i've never even touched a girl beyond a friendly hug. i didn't leave islam because i wanted to get laid, and it's pathetic mentalities like this that draw the very hostility i was talking about from us! you make sweeping generalizations about 'all people who leave islam just want to have the freedom to fuck'(if i really wanted this i'd convert to shi'ism) and then whine when somebody calls you all 'warped people with blind faith'. you want respect? then give people something to respect you for! i don't care about studying islam; i didn't leave islam on a petty theological issue, i left islam because there is no way to absolutely discern the existence of a deity, and therefore i cannot testify that such a deity does absolutely exist. i don't care whether muhammad fucked a 9 year old, i don't care whether the qur'an has scientific miracles or not, these things have nothing to do with my position.
PS:- ...your avatars, the words you chose et al, show how great a character you guys have...and I am less pained when I see all this as I feel you werent suited to the clean, pure, rational and transparent life, both personal, spiritual and societal that Islam has to offer and got expelled...sigh...!
lol. you don't know any of us, yet you decide our character by our conduct on the internet. i bet you think i'm a closet jew because of my avatar then!
you really are a fuckwit, aren't you?
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