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  • Re: Pakistan's Punjab Governor assassinated
     Reply #30 - January 04, 2011, 04:34 PM
    Quote from: yeezevee on January 04, 2011, 04:14 PM
    It is tragic  Tragic lives in Islam and it is worse if the family still keeps in touch with their history and some are Muslims and some are not..

    Somewhere Salman Taseer’s Son Aatish Taseer  wrote after moving out of Pakistan living in London..  Very good book to read.. and here is Aatish

    (Clicky for piccy!)

    http://blogs.epicindia.com/leapinthedark/2010/02/book_review_stranger_to_histor.html



    Yeah thats the guy, I read his book. Its a good read. I bought and read it after Zia Sardar cursed it in his review and thought if it rubs chilli in his eyes it must be good. This Aatish Taseer was raised in New Delhi in a secular / Sikh family and when he got back in touch with his father in Pakistan he wanted to understand the distance between their outlooks. So he travelled in the middle east, Syria, Iran, Turkey and Pakistan to understand this part of his heritage. He rejects Islam as a religion, and cannot relate to the attitudes of Muslims he meets, and in the end doesn't really reconcile with his father. Now his father has been shot dead, how sad.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


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  • Re: Pakistan's Punjab Governor assassinated
     Reply #31 - January 04, 2011, 04:45 PM
    Well still not sure who killed whom they are related...


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PN1sSowH7k
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  • Re: Pakistan's Punjab Governor assassinated
     Reply #32 - January 04, 2011, 06:30 PM
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    "...the guard had told police that he killed Mr Taseer because of the governor's opposition to Pakistan's blasphemy law. Many were angered by his defence of a Christian woman sentenced to death..."


    How dare he not want people executed on flimsy and trumped-up charges based on Medieval laws!

    How very sad - there are times I truly despair!
  • Re: Pakistan's Punjab Governor assassinated
     Reply #33 - January 04, 2011, 06:42 PM
    Quote from: billy on January 04, 2011, 04:34 PM
    I bought and read it after Zia Sardar cursed it in his review and thought if it rubs chilli in his eyes it must be good.

    Yeah, I know the review you are talking about. The one in The Independent, right?
  • Re: Pakistan's Punjab Governor assassinated
     Reply #34 - January 04, 2011, 06:52 PM
    Pakistan discusses the murder on its TV..


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv5yfdKjT6k
     
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RydVVb1dRDs

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL1_uJQ15zA
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  • Re: Pakistan's Punjab Governor assassinated
     Reply #35 - January 04, 2011, 06:54 PM
    Quote from: Kenan on January 04, 2011, 06:42 PM
    Yeah, I know the review you are talking about. The one in The Independent, right?


    Yeah thats the one. Its a good book Kenan, put it on your list.

    That facebook page in honour of the killer is dreadful and fascinating at the same time. I keep going back to it to read the latest exhortations of joy and congratulation.

    http://www.facebook.com/Malik.Mumtaz.Qadri?v=wall
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  • Re: Pakistan's Punjab Governor assassinated
     Reply #36 - January 04, 2011, 07:02 PM
    Quote from: billy on January 04, 2011, 04:34 PM
    Yeah thats the guy, I read his book. Its a good read. I bought and read it after Zia Sardar cursed it in his review and thought if it rubs chilli in his eyes it must be good. This Aatish Taseer was raised in New Delhi in a secular / Sikh family and when he got back in touch with his father in Pakistan he wanted to understand the distance between their outlooks. So he travelled in the middle east, Syria, Iran, Turkey and Pakistan to understand this part of his heritage. He rejects Islam as a religion, and cannot relate to the attitudes of Muslims he meets, and in the end doesn't really reconcile with his father. Now his father has been shot dead, how sad.

    He is very smart guy  he actually dated  Princess Michael of Kent’s lissom daughter Lady Gabriella Windsor



     I am not sure they are together or not..  http://royalandco.wordpress.com/2008/10/23/ella%E2%80%99s-back-with-her-fella/    Last time I heard Aatish  and Gabriella, 25 parted ways  mainly because Aatish wanted to return to India for good while Gabriella refused to relocate to India - particularly after the adverse experience Jemima Goldsmith had in Pakistan after marrying cricket legend Imran Khan.

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  • Re: Pakistan's Punjab Governor assassinated
     Reply #37 - January 04, 2011, 07:10 PM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1OnksK0tuE
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  • Re: Pakistan's Punjab Governor assassinated
     Reply #38 - January 04, 2011, 07:12 PM
    Governor Punjab- Aasia Bibi Press Conference

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxvlLpSy4BI

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejKwcDBriQw

    That man had guts, baboons in   Islam will not allow such people to live.. That man indeed died for standing up for that poor Christian lady.
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  • Re: Pakistan's Punjab Governor assassinated
     Reply #39 - January 04, 2011, 07:23 PM
    Look at this BRUTAL ISLAM BRAIN WASHED ROGUE who killed  Pakistan's Punjab Governor

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sNfQaVZInc

    How cool he looks and how coolly he talks..,  as if he is on some Islamic drug..

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  • Re: Pakistan's Punjab Governor assassinated
     Reply #40 - January 04, 2011, 07:28 PM
    Quote from: billy on January 04, 2011, 03:56 PM


    OK, but the truth is that the majority of their victims are just the common man and woman, right? That was the general point I was making.


    This kind of collateral damage is not worth bothering about, because the universally hated Americans are not involved!


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  • Re: Pakistan's Punjab Governor assassinated
     Reply #41 - January 04, 2011, 07:35 PM
    Aatish Taseer., Son of Pakistan's Punjab Governor whose Mother could not move into Islam and Pakistan.. They had bitter divorce with in few months.. and the reason is Muhammad's Islam"  -Stranger to History-Bookbits author interview

    Listen to him on the tube..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lp43NS9REVY

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xBwN3F4N3s

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rrl-fSG6ms

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKWuQYvbBMY
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  • Re: Pakistan's Punjab Governor assassinated
     Reply #42 - January 04, 2011, 07:41 PM
    Quote from: yeezevee on January 04, 2011, 07:23 PM
    Look at this BRUTAL ISLAM BRAIN WASHED ROGUE who killed  Pakistan's Punjab Governor

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sNfQaVZInc

    How cool he looks and how coolly he talks..,  as if he is on some Islamic drug..




    A drug brings about an altered state of awareness and brutally rapes reality.
    But a special feature of this drug this is that even people who don't use it get their minds so fucked up when exposed to the users that they perceive it as a manna from the heavens to set right their messed up lives.


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  • Re: Pakistan's Punjab Governor assassinated
     Reply #43 - January 04, 2011, 07:51 PM
    A big loss for Pakistan I feel. I hope he rattles the minds of progressive Pakistanis and doesn't die in vain.
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  • Re: Pakistan's Punjab Governor assassinated
     Reply #44 - January 05, 2011, 02:26 AM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4otdwEF0xk

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwGBfmZSFjo
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  • Re: Pakistan's Punjab Governor assassinated
     Reply #45 - January 05, 2011, 09:41 AM
    Qadri had informed fellow guards: sources

    http://www.thenews.com.pk/NewsDetail.aspx?ID=8732


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    ISLAMABAD: Mumtaz Qadri, the assassin of Salman Taseer, has disclosed during investigation that he had informed his fellow guards about planning to assassinate Governor Punjab, Geo News reported sources as saying.

    Meanwhile, he also told investigating officials that he had been ruled out of Special Branch owing to security risk some times ago, sources said.

    Informing his fellow security guards about the plot, Mumtaz Qadri, had requested that they (other guards) should not open fire at him after killing of Salman Taseer as he had pledged that he would lay down arms after assassination, sources quoted investigating officials as saying.

    He had said that he wanted to be arrested alive, sources said.

    Malik Mumtaz Qadri had been ruled out of Special Branch some times ago because of security risk, he confessed.

    no one should  believe any one when it comes to personal security
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  • Re: Pakistan's Punjab Governor assassinated
     Reply #46 - January 05, 2011, 09:57 AM
    http://www.dawn.com/2011/01/05/religious-scholars-say-mourning-taseer%E2%80%99s-death-risky.html
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    ISLAMABAD: Five hundred moderate Pakistani religious scholars have warned that anyone who expresses grief over the assassination of Governor Punjab Salman Taseer, who opposed the country’s blasphemy law, could suffer the same fate.

    The Jamaat-i-Ahl-i-Sunnat Pakistan group of scholars is a vocal critic of Taliban militants who are violently opposed to the government and its ally the United States.

    The group is one of the largest representing scholars from the moderate Barelvi sect of Sunni Muslims. They have been leading protests in favour of the blasphemy law.

    “More than 500 scholars of the Jamaat-i-Ahl-i-Sunnat have advised Muslims not to offer the funeral prayers of Governor Punjab Salman Taseer nor try to lead the prayers,” the group said in a statement.

    “Also, there should be no expression of grief or sympathy on the death of the governor, as those who support blasphemy of the Prophet are themselves indulging in blasphemy.”

    “Salman Taseer is a blasphemer and this is the punishment for a blasphemer,” Qadri said in comments broadcast on a private television channel.

    The group of scholars also noted the “courage” and religious zeal of Taseer’s killer, saying his action has made Muslims around the world proud. It also said that the “so-called” intellectuals, ministers, politicians and television anchors who oppose the blasphemy law and support those committing blasphemy should learn a lesson from Taseer’s death.

    http://www.dawn.com/2011/01/05/religious-scholars-say-mourning-taseer%E2%80%99s-death-risky.html

    And they are Moderate Islamic scholars.. what should do we expect from extremist Islamic scholars?  and does Islam need any scholar?  Muslims only need to learn to read quran & hadith   and make their own judgment ..Close down all the shops of so-called scholars with personal mosques and educate muslims..

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  • Re: Pakistan's Punjab Governor assassinated
     Reply #47 - January 05, 2011, 10:06 AM
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    ISLAMABAD: Five hundred moderate Pakistani religious scholars have warned that anyone who expresses grief over the assassination of Governor Punjab Salman Taseer, who opposed the country’s blasphemy law, could suffer the same fate.

    The group is one of the largest representing scholars from the moderate Barelvi sect of Sunni Muslims. They have been leading protests in favour of the blasphemy law.

    “More than 500 scholars of the Jamaat-i-Ahl-i-Sunnat have advised Muslims not to offer the funeral prayers of Governor Punjab Salman Taseer nor try to lead the prayers,” the group said in a statement.

    “Also, there should be no expression of grief or sympathy on the death of the governor, as those who support blasphemy of the Prophet are themselves indulging in blasphemy.”

    “Salman Taseer is a blasphemer and this is the punishment for a blasphemer,” Qadri said in comments broadcast on a private television channel.

    The group of scholars also noted the “courage” and religious zeal of Taseer’s killer, saying his action has made Muslims around the world proud. It also said that the “so-called” intellectuals, ministers, politicians and television anchors who oppose the blasphemy law and support those committing blasphemy should learn a lesson from Taseer’s death.

    This is all so disgusting, the fact that they are moderates, there are 500 of them & they say they should not offer even funeral prayer, be proud or risk further assisnations! I'm gonna stick this on my facebook
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  • Re: Pakistan's Punjab Governor assassinated
     Reply #48 - January 05, 2011, 10:15 AM
    Why are these 500 scholars referred to as moderates, when they are espousing the death penalty for anyone who expresses sympathy over Taseers murder?
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  • Re: Pakistan's Punjab Governor assassinated
     Reply #49 - January 05, 2011, 10:16 AM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoHPqXllDlE

    I Lost all the respect to THIS Fool., This confused Brainless Muslim does not realize that this fellow who killed Salman Taseer is Punjabi. Why blame Pashtuns??
    And on top of it being a western educated, a sports man, and so called Moderate leader .. The FOol could not Give single statement against Blasphemy law in support of that poor Christian woman.

    A Gutless   clueless fool .. leave politics and open some Khan Cricket Academy....
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  • Re: Pakistan's Punjab Governor assassinated
     Reply #50 - January 05, 2011, 10:23 AM
    Quote from: IsLame on January 05, 2011, 10:15 AM
    Why are these 500 scholars referred to as moderates, when they are espousing the death penalty for anyone who expresses sympathy over Taseers murder?

    They are simply words of unintelligent  fools of Pakistan giving some silly statements in to press.   This "Ahl-e-Sunnat wal Jama'at of Pakistan"  is the new name of Sipah Sahabah. Sipah Sahabah was banned by Musharraf so they started to work under the name Millat-i-Islamiyyah and Musharraf even banned that ,  Now they operate under Ahl al-Sunnah wal-Jamah, Pakistan.
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  • Re: Pakistan's Punjab Governor assassinated
     Reply #51 - January 05, 2011, 10:32 AM
    then why are they called moderates?  in what way are they moderates as opposed to extremists?
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  • Re: Pakistan's Punjab Governor assassinated
     Reply #52 - January 05, 2011, 10:36 AM
    Quote from: yeezevee on January 05, 2011, 10:23 AM
    They are simply words of unintelligent  fools of Pakistan giving some silly statements in to press.   This "Ahl-e-Sunnat wal Jama'at of Pakistan"  is the new name of Sipah Sahabah. Sipah Sahabah was banned by Musharraf so they started to work under the name Millat-i-Islamiyyah and Musharraf even banned that ,  Now they operate under Ahl al-Sunnah wal-Jamah, Pakistan.


    I don't think this is the case, yasawi. Ahl al sunnah wal jammah have been around for a lot longer than the sipah sahaba and the vast majority of average pakistanis belong to this moderate sect. Most of my extended family and muslim friends are part of this sect and there is nothing hidden or extremist about them.
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  • Re: Pakistan's Punjab Governor assassinated
     Reply #53 - January 05, 2011, 10:44 AM
    Quote from: z10 on January 05, 2011, 10:36 AM
    I don't think this is the case, yasawi. Ahl al sunnah wal jammah have been around for a lot longer than the sipah sahaba and the vast majority of average pakistanis belong to this moderate sect.

    Most of my extended family and muslim friends are part of this sect and there is nothing hidden or extremist about them.

    Those words tells you something else., it means a moderate Muslim can easily shift his views to extremist views the moment one  looses the ability to critically analyze Islam in  a given situation..

    That was before Musharraf started ruling Pakistan.. sipah sahaba  comes out of Ahl al sunnah wal jammah after 9/11 ...  and they fight each other. That is so-called Taliban verses Pakistan Taliban who are supposed to be Patriots of Pakistan...

    http://pathtomartyrdom.blogspot.com/2009/09/lion-of-sipah-e-sahaba.html
    http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?48826-Allamah-Ali-Sher-Hayderi-(Rahimahullah)-killed-in-Sindh
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  • Re: Pakistan's Punjab Governor assassinated
     Reply #54 - January 05, 2011, 10:50 AM
    Quote from: z10 on January 05, 2011, 10:36 AM
    I don't think this is the case, yasawi. Ahl al sunnah wal jammah have been around for a lot longer than the sipah sahaba and the vast majority of average pakistanis belong to this moderate sect.

    why are you calling them moderates, when they are proud of Taseers assassination?
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  • Re: Pakistan's Punjab Governor assassinated
     Reply #55 - January 05, 2011, 10:53 AM
    I don't know about who is now using that title and being proud of this assassination, I was just mentioning that the original use of that label is for moderates and as far as I know, everyone of them has condemned this as murder.
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  • Re: Pakistan's Punjab Governor assassinated
     Reply #56 - January 05, 2011, 11:11 AM
    Quote from: z10 on January 05, 2011, 10:53 AM
    I don't know about who is now using that title and being proud of this assassination, I was just mentioning that the original use of that label is for moderates and as far as I know, everyone of them has condemned this as murder.

    well original title and original name comes out of that Arabic word  "Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaah"   which is translated in to Adherents and the community or Followers of Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaah. Even that good friend in Londonsithan "the  Sunnah Wa al-Jamma"   comes out of Al-Muhajiroun of our Anjum Choudhary .

    What is there in name??  A rose is a rose irrespective of the name, religion, culture and story behind it  and .and.. A ROGUE IS A ROGUE irrespective of the name, religion, culture and story behind it.

    But..but any Muslim and any one who strictly adhere to Sunnah and follows in the foot steps of Prophet of Islam and Sahab specially his two father in-laws and two  son in-laws the Caliphas., I bet they do terrorize public  in the name of Allah.
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  • Re: Pakistan's Punjab Governor assassinated
     Reply #57 - January 05, 2011, 11:12 AM
    that is true, it is just a shame that a largely peaceful sect has had its label hijacked.
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  • Re: Pakistan's Punjab Governor assassinated
     Reply #58 - January 05, 2011, 11:52 AM
    Police arrest Sardar Ebaad Dogar  who offered Rs30 million  reward for killing Salmaan Taseer

    http://tribune.com.pk/story/99206/incitiement-man-who-offered-reward-for-killing-taseer-arrested/

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    MULTAN: Khangarh police on Tuesday arrested a man who had announced a Rs20 million prize for whoever would kill Governor Salmaan Taseer. Sardar Ebaad Dogar had made the announcement at a rally organised last Friday against proposals to amend or reform the blasphemy laws.

    Talking to The Express Tribune after the rally, Dogar had said that he felt no embarrassment in making the announcement. He had said he would raise the reward to Rs30 million if someone from Khangarh would kill Taseer.

    Dogar had served as Khangarh’s district nazim on a Pakistan Muslim League-Q ticket. He was accused of association with banned organisation Sipah-i-Sahaba Pakistan before joining the PML-Q.

    The police have shifted him to unidentified location and started interrogation.

    And that is PML Q league which came out of PML-N league to support Musharraf., Why Not arrest the ROGUE  who offered  5 lakh rupees for killing that poor Christian woman Asia Bibi??

    http://teaandpolitics.wordpress.com/2010/12/03/pakistan-taliban-linked-cleric-offers-5800-for-killing-asia-bibi/

    Now Asia bibi is in great danger, she should be released from Jail  and Moved out of the Land of Pure to some IMPURE LANDS where Anjum Choudary likes live with tax payers free loot..
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  • Re: Pakistan's Punjab Governor assassinated
     Reply #59 - January 05, 2011, 01:07 PM
    Quote from: yeezevee on January 05, 2011, 11:52 AM
    Police arrest Sardar Ebaad Dogar  who offered Rs30 million  reward for killing Salmaan Taseer

    Thats good news, but this small matter is spiralling out of control now.  I bet Bibi wishes she kept her mouth shut now about fly's coming out of the prophets mouth when he died!
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