I can only speak from my experience and that I am well aware that many young Muslim men go out with non-Muslim girls then dump them later to marry a 'good' Muslim girl.
I have absolutely no experience nor knowledge (until I heard about this case) that "victims are handed on to older relatives and friends for more abuse and the young men are being rewarded for doing so".
So I'm not sure why you felt the need to say this to me?
"denying the bleeding obvious makes it look as though you're squaring up to defend them"
Since I have never heard of such a thing until this case, I can neither confirm nor deny that such a thing is more widespread than this case - can I?
I'm terribly sorry if I've offended you personally, Hassan. It certainly wasn't aimed at you. I just used your quote to make a point but indirectly - a bit clumsy of me. Again, sorry.
But it certainly seems that some of the exact cultural background are in denial or seem to be annoyed that the link has been made and my remarks are aimed at them.
The police, social workers and rescue/support workers dealing with it have been alarmed about it's growing prevalence since about 2003, sufficient for Ann Cryer MP to be the first to put her above the parapet and spell it out at that time. So far, they've concentrated on picking up the pieces or helping vulnerable girls, some as young as 11, to avoid predation and side stepped the aggressive tackling of the problem, head on in the community involved, in the interests of multi-cultural 'harmony'. Well, it hasn't worked and I now think we're about to see a sea change.
The problem should be tackled by stepping up efforts to apply social pressure from people who should have been trying to keep Pakistani youth out of trouble instead of turning a blind eye or sticking their heads in the sand. They've let down their/our young people badly by clinging to religious and cultural conservative isolationism instead of adopting the host cultural mores.
I think it had to be left until the offending pattern had been repeated enough times, in enough towns and cities, to be regarded as an observable, well documented phenomenon by several agencies in order that wild accusations were not made. The nature of this kind of crime is obviously deeply offensive to the host community and I think it's been handled very well in the circumstances. It's no good living in Lalaland.
As for the assertions I made: these come from a drip feed of reports over the years on this issue. The courts are now dealing with several cases per year. I can remember one sentencing report in a case where the males of Pakistani heritage involved ranged from 15 yrs old to 48 years old - that's 3 generations. There's something complicit at work here more than pure criminality and paedophilia.
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