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 Topic: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'

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  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #270 - January 30, 2011, 10:49 PM

    Protests spread to the Sudan

    http://libcom.org/forums/news/tunisia-effect-where-next-29012011#comment-413331
  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #271 - January 30, 2011, 10:49 PM

    I hope not. I have faith in the Egyptian people - most are religious - yes - but this is not Afghansitan.


    It hopefully shouldn't happen coz the ikhwanis have already said they want all the opposition to unite under elbaradei.
  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #272 - January 30, 2011, 10:51 PM

    I hope not. I have faith in the Egyptian people - most are religious - yes - but this is not Afghansitan.


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  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #273 - January 30, 2011, 11:03 PM

    Really? I think he was like the best modern day arab and muslim leader. Secular, staunchly anti-western imperialism and zionism  Afro


    He was loved outside Egypt. But was every bit the brutal dictator that has plagued the Arab world.

    We've had enough of these bastards!
  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #274 - January 30, 2011, 11:15 PM

    Some other time on a different thread.

    Its just that its one of the first times Ive heard that as an argument for apostacy - here you go, you can post it here if you like http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=11843.0

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  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #275 - January 30, 2011, 11:26 PM

    Its not WHY I left Islam but it started the process of me questioning Islam.
  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #276 - January 30, 2011, 11:30 PM

    yep, that threads titled " Best arguments for secularizing Islam "

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  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #277 - January 31, 2011, 12:59 AM

  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #278 - January 31, 2011, 04:32 AM

    Really? I think he was like the best modern day arab and muslim leader. Secular, staunchly anti-western imperialism and zionism  Afro

    He was a scumbag as far as I'm concerned. He played a central role in toppling The Qasim regime in Iraq, which was the best chance we had at being a developed country. He supported racist pan-Arabists including Saddam. Fuck every pan-Arabist.
  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #279 - January 31, 2011, 07:22 AM

    Been gone for the last week drinking heavily at a holiday house, so I am only just figuring out what has been happening. Read the Wiki article.

    It seems like a fine balancing act though... Everyone wants the government out, but who replaces them could be anyone, for better or for worse. Both Iran and Israel support the protests, I hope that the protests work towards proper democracy and freedom, rather than the sort of garbage rhetoric you expect from the Muslim Brotherhood when they speak of "giving Egyptian people their dignity" whilst proposing some sort of Islamist blanket policy to solve things.

    It's confusing, I hope that we see a protest for real democracy and real freedom because then hopefully the dominoes will fall and other countries can see the same things.
  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #280 - January 31, 2011, 08:40 AM

    Robert Reilly: 'No Prospect for Mid-East Peace'

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZ08qeRKSl0

    The Closing of the Muslim Mind: How Intellectual Suicide Created the Modern Islamist [Hardcover]  by Robert R. Reilly.

    http://www.amazon.com/Closing-Muslim-Mind-Intellectual-Islamist/dp/1933859911





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  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #281 - January 31, 2011, 10:12 AM

    Iran tells Egypt to listen to the people’s voice

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    TEHRAN - Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Ramin Mehmanparast has advised Egyptian officials to avoid resorting to violence in dealing with the popular demonstrations in the country.

    “The demonstrations of the Muslim Egyptian nation are a movement seeking the realization of justice and Egyptians’ national and ideological demands. Egyptian officials are expected to avoid the use of violence in dealing with the people,” Mehmanparast said in a statement.

    He also advised the Egyptian government to listen to “this Muslim nation’s voice,” to accept the “Islamic awakening” and to submit to the people’s demands.

    The Foreign Ministry spokesman added that Iran is closely monitoring developments in Egypt.

    that is what Iranian Foreign Ministry says..  if that is “Islamic awakening”  future of Egypt and future middle east will be much worse than what Iran is in with oil and gas under its nation. 

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  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #282 - January 31, 2011, 10:17 AM

    "Iran tells Egypt to listen to the people’s voice"

    NineBerry tells Iran to listen to the people’s voice
  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #283 - January 31, 2011, 10:26 AM

    "Iran tells Egypt to listen to the people’s voice"

    NineBerry tells Iran to listen to the people’s voice


     Cheesy  Afro

    Gotta love the hypocrisy!

  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #284 - January 31, 2011, 10:41 AM

    Sign the statement of solidarity--and spread the word about this campaign!

    https://secure.avaaz.org/en/democracy_for_egypt/
  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #285 - January 31, 2011, 11:08 AM

    "Iran tells Egypt to listen to the people’s voice"

    NineBerry tells Iran to listen to the people’s voice

    NineBerry  you are writing porno stories on public website where public can access and become criminals.,  you know what is the punishment in Persia for that?   let me read you today's news..

    Iran condemns two to death over porn sites
    http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2011\01\31\story_31-1-2011_pg1_2
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    TEHRAN: Iranian courts on Sunday sentenced two people to death for running porn sites, prosecutor general Abbas Jafari Dolatabadi said, quoted on the Islamic republic’s official IRNA news agency. “Two administrators of porn sites have been sentenced to death in two different court branches and the verdicts have been sent to the supreme court for confirmation,” Dolatabadi said, without naming the two convicts.

    Last December, Canada expressed concern over the reported death sentence handed down to an Iranian-born Canadian resident for allegedly designing an adult website. The Netherlands froze contacts with Tehran after Saturday’s hanging of an Iranian-Dutch woman for drug smuggling, having initially been arrested for taking part in anti-government protests. Iran, China, Saudi Arabia and US have the highest numbers of executions each year. Adultery, murder, drug trafficking and other major crimes are all punishable by death in the Islamic republic. afp


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    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #286 - January 31, 2011, 12:26 PM

    Sign the statement of solidarity--and spread the word about this campaign!

    https://secure.avaaz.org/en/democracy_for_egypt/


     Afro
  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #287 - January 31, 2011, 12:50 PM

    Another announcement:
    The million Egyptian march.
    This Tuesday 1st of Feb. From Tahrir Sq. to Republic Palace. 4:00 PM.
    Make
    it
    known!
  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #288 - January 31, 2011, 01:37 PM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wv9kDyaOylI
  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #289 - January 31, 2011, 01:56 PM

    Hate to make a dumb pessimistic question, but isn't there a very realistic chance that the outcome of these protests could bring about a government even worse or more corrupt than the current one? I mean, I support the Egyptians in their struggle for real freedom and progress, but if they are desperate, unemployed, hungry and looking for someone else to take the lead, isn't it highly probable that they could end up with a more corrupt Islamist government?

    Someone else on another forum spoke of how many protesters felt that the Egyptian government were essentially puppets of Israel, I'd hate to think that these typical Zionist-conspiracists would take advantage of the struggle genuine people are making for freedom and progress.

    Anyway, it is interesting. Almost like a domino-effect, how other countries are also in the same pool. I am optimistic that people are standing up and fighting in the face of corrupt governments, pessimistic about how it will turn out... After the Iran protests and now this in Tunisia, Egypt, Algeria, etc, it feels like change is in the air. That the youth want to be heard...
  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #290 - January 31, 2011, 02:36 PM

    Arab uprising... where will it end?

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  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #291 - January 31, 2011, 02:43 PM

    Arab uprising... where will it end?


    It doesn't matter where it ends Stagnation is worse  And Islamic rulers and preachers  are best served by stagnation. but I have confidence it will end for better Islame..

    Good news.. good news .

    Quote
    Analysis: Arab rebellions puncture Qaeda propaganda

    LONDON - Revolts in Egypt and Tunisia have struck a blow against al Qaeda's call to violence as a means of overthrowing autocratic governments, showing "people power" to be a more effective weapon. The adaptable militant group, with strong roots in Egypt, will work hard to exploit any sense of disappointment if the eventual outcome of the uprising there does not deliver better lives for the Arab world's most populous country, analysts say.

    But for now the group has no easy answer to the evidence presented by the world's television screens -- that ordinary men and women are doing more to weaken the 30-year-old rule of President Hosni Mubarak than years of attacks by armed groups.  

    Quote
    Nor is there much comfort here for Western strategists who have argued that the West must prop up Arab autocrats or see the region taken over by violent anti-Western Islamist radicals.

    "It's a huge defeat for al Qaeda in a country of central importance to its image. It has wounded their credibility with potential supporters," said Noman Benotman, a former organizer for an al Qaeda-aligned group in neighboring Libya. "These demonstrations by ordinary people show the bankruptcy of al Qaeda's ideology," said Peter Knoope, Director of the International Center for Counter-Terrorism in The Hague.


    DESPERATE

    He said the December suicide of Tunisian stallholder Mohamed Bouazizi -- a protest against the lack of economic opportunity that helped trigger Tunisia's revolt -- proved more powerful than al Qaeda's call for attacks on Western-backed Arab rulers.

    "The mobilization of the masses was brought about by the authentic suicide of someone who was desperate," he said.

    Al Qaeda's regional arm, al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb, issued a statement praising the Tunisian uprising and calling on youths to join its Algerian bases for training. But many al Qaeda sympathizers have been waiting to hear from the leadership, Osama bin Laden and his Egyptian deputy Ayman al-Zawahri, who are believed to be based in Pakistan. So far, there has been silence.
    Quote
    That is a "not very impressive" delay by the group's ideological chiefs, according to Anna Murison, an expert on Islamist armed groups at London's Exclusive Analysis. She said a recent web posting by pro-al Qaeda Mauritanian cleric Abu al-Mandhar al-Shanqiti might give a flavor of what al Qaeda's core leadership would say. "If there are any mujahideen (holy warriors) in Egypt, it is the best form of jihad to participate in this blessed revolution," she quoted the message as saying.

    Shanqiti added he would "not see any problem" if protesters also engaged in suicide attacks, Murison said.

    "The argument is likely to be that the masses have finally woken up to what al Qaeda has been saying for the past 20 years," she said, but added that such "opportunistic" rhetoric was unlikely to play well with the crowds in central Cairo. Al Qaeda has deep roots in Egypt, through al-Zawahri, who led a failed campaign in the mid-1990s to set up a purist Islamic state in Egypt, and through many key operatives..................

    read it all at http://www.cnbc.com/id/41350260

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #292 - January 31, 2011, 03:27 PM

     At this point, it's very important that people keep rising up and throwing off the shackles of propriety to demand their rights. While there's a worry that Islamists will hijack these uprisings, I really don't think it'll happen that easily because (a)a lot of people are wary of the way things turned out in Iran in 1979 and beyond, and (b)this is an internal struggle against despots, not necessarily a religious struggle and (c)there are lots of reports of muslims banding together with christians and secularists/atheists in many of the protests...... and bottom line is, despots gotta go, whoever replaces them must be kept an eye on (by the people within these places and by the people outside) but these despots across the mid-east have reached the end of their game.

    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #293 - January 31, 2011, 04:58 PM

    Obama administration aligns itself with protests in Egypt with call for 'orderly transition'   says news

    Quote
    In telephone calls to Egyptian and regional leaders, President Obama and his top national security advisers tried to reassure them that their countries remain vital U.S. strategic partners, while warning that the political status quo is not sustainable.

    Senior administration officials said that the "transition" wording, used by both the White House and Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, was carefully chosen to indicate a desire for a representative, interim government to run Egypt until scheduled presidential elections are held in September.

    Clinton, who appeared on five morning television shows to convey the message, resisted invitations to call explicitly for President Hosni Mubarak, in power for three decades, to stand down. "Both existing and any new members of any government" need to take "concrete steps toward democratic and economic reform," Clinton said on CNN's "State of the Union."

    "We are not advocating any specific outcome," she added. But "it needs to be done immediately, with a process that brings people to the table, and that the Egyptian people can see."


    CrossTalk on Egypt: Power to People_ Tariq Ali


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8nyeOAdqAQ

    What is the Track record of US of A on promoting Democracy??


    Answer  "ZERO"...ZERO.....

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    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #294 - January 31, 2011, 05:26 PM

    I honestly wish Egypt all the best. I doubt a worst government can take over, I think Egyptians have already had a taste of democracy, in regards to influences from the West and other cultures, and won't let anyone steer them in the opposite direction of intolerance. But hey I've never been to Egypt I'm just saying based on what I've read and comments from other Egyptians on other sites. However, this needs to end soon or the entire country will turn to shit. 

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  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #295 - January 31, 2011, 06:13 PM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHcXkwaRfxE


    Hmmm.. This is fun to watch....

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    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #296 - January 31, 2011, 07:55 PM

    ‎"Army will not shoot the people - people's demands are legitimate!"

    http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/world/view/20110201-317724/Egypt-army-says-protesters-demands-legitimate-will-not-shoot
  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #297 - January 31, 2011, 08:40 PM


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWcKewmyh_o&feature=player_embedded

    Yeah those pesky Jews  Roll Eyes


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  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #298 - January 31, 2011, 08:45 PM

    Quote
    Yeah those pesky Jews  Roll Eyes


    Not once did they use the word "Jew"  Roll Eyes
  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #299 - January 31, 2011, 08:47 PM

    How much longer can Mubarak cling on?

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/how-much-longer-can-mubarak-cling-on-2198987.html
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