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  • Re: Oh boy! news says American kills three in Lahore!
     Reply #90 - February 01, 2011, 05:13 PM

    Mob rule.....Mob rule...... Mob rule.....

    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
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  • Re: Oh boy! news says American kills three in Lahore!
     Reply #91 - February 01, 2011, 06:23 PM

    mob make rules..

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  • Re: Oh boy! news says American kills three in Lahore!
     Reply #92 - February 01, 2011, 07:04 PM

    mob make rules..


    you sound like as if you are from United States of Abnormals muddy



    A supporter of a religious party holds a placard during a rally in support of Pakistan's blasphemy laws in Lahore January 30, 2011. – Photo by Reuters  http://www.dawn.com/2011/02/01/student-arrested-for-blasphemous-exam-answer.html

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  • Re: Oh boy! news says American kills three in Lahore!
     Reply #93 - February 01, 2011, 07:22 PM

    If rules weren't made by mob mentality and were all just, there would be no rule against homosexuals, racism would have been a punishable crime, no one would be allowed to impose their beliefs on others etc..

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  • Re: Oh boy! news says American kills three in Lahore!
     Reply #94 - February 01, 2011, 07:29 PM

    If rules weren't made by mob mentality and were all just, there would be no rule against homosexuals, racism would have been a punishable crime, no one would be allowed to impose their beliefs on others etc..

    they are NOT rules dear muddy., that is MOB Criminal/petty BEHAVIOR., it comes right out of evolution and you can see that in every animal species..

    The rules are NOT made by mob but made  by few thoughtful and intelligent , enlightened men/women.  

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  • Re: Oh boy! news says American kills three in Lahore!
     Reply #95 - February 01, 2011, 07:36 PM

    I don't really agree with enlightened. They could very well be endarkened.

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  • Re: Oh boy! news says American kills three in Lahore!
     Reply #96 - February 01, 2011, 08:25 PM

    I don't really agree with enlightened. They could very well be endarkened.

    you do have a point there muddy., But Enlightened doesn't mean Unquestionable..

    irrespective of whether the person is good..bad,  good rules..bad rules,  everything, every one  and every rule is questionable.  There is always a room for improvement however good a rule may be..

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  • Re: Oh boy! news says American kills three in Lahore!
     Reply #97 - February 01, 2011, 08:31 PM

    I don't really agree with enlightened. They could very well be endarkened.

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  • Re: Oh boy! news says American kills three in Lahore!
     Reply #98 - February 01, 2011, 10:11 PM

    I don't suppose you realize that your position of supporting Pakistani military is completely inconsistent with the above?
    Have you read that book about Pakistani military billy recommended?
    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=14342.msg394270#msg394270



    I do. But I'd rather have the military doing that (something Pakistanis as a whole can be proud of) than to have a corrupt politicians. The same goes for the military support to the afghan taliban, I don't agree with it, but its better than the alternative; american colony next door. I started reading it, haven't finished yet.
  • Re: Oh boy! news says American kills three in Lahore!
     Reply #99 - February 01, 2011, 10:25 PM

    At least you are honest in your support of men who cut Shias open and bleed them halal style. 

    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
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  • Re: Oh boy! news says American kills three in Lahore!
     Reply #100 - February 01, 2011, 10:28 PM

    As far as I'm aware the afghan taliban haven't been part of the sectarian violence in Pakistan.
  • Re: Oh boy! news says American kills three in Lahore!
     Reply #101 - February 02, 2011, 12:41 PM

    As far as I'm aware the afghan taliban haven't been part of the sectarian violence in Pakistan.

    well you know very little Aphrodite., any ways going back to the thread  new http://www.dawn.com/2011/02/02/davis-holds-diplomatic-passport-malik.html


    Quote
    Davis holds diplomatic passport: Malik
    (Clicky for piccy!)

    ISLAMABAD: Interior Minister Rehman Malik on Wednesday informed the Upper House of Parliament that the accused, Raymond Davis, involved in the killing of Pakistani nationals, would be treated in accordance with the law of the land.

    Law will take its course and no favour will be done with the accused,; said the minister while responding to various point of orders raised by the senators.

    Malik informed the House that the person arrested by the Punjab police is holding a diplomatic passport. He also said that central and provincial governments would not hinder the court proceedings regarding Raymond Davis.

    We will follow whatever the court said and would provide all information desired by the court regarding the case of the US citizen involved in the killing of two Pakistanis. ;

    He added that on the instructions of the honourable court, the name of the Raymond Davis has been put in the Exit Control List (ECL).


    and other news says
    Quote
    Victims relatives seek terror charges for Davis

    (Clicky for piccy!)

    LAHORE: The families of three Pakistanis who died after a US government employee opened fire in broad daylight demanded Wednesday that terror charges are brought against the American.

    Dozens of relatives and students gathered close to the site of the shooting in the eastern city of Lahore last week, shouting ; hang Davis, death to American dogs  and  cruel people be accountable for our blood .

    this is indeed spinning out of control read it all at http://www.dawn.com/2011/02/02/victims-relatives-seek-terror-charges-for-davis.html

    well 5 billion dollars a year give Americans death to American dogs.,  I think Americans should give 25 billion a year to get more from Lahore Jihadis

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  • Re: Oh boy! news says American kills three in Lahore!
     Reply #102 - February 02, 2011, 03:39 PM

    (something Pakistanis as a whole can be proud of)

     Roll Eyes

    same goes for the military support to the afghan taliban, I don't agree with it, but its better than the alternative; american colony next door.

     Roll Eyes

    Get over your tribalistic mindset.
  • Re: Oh boy! news says American kills three in Lahore!
     Reply #103 - February 02, 2011, 04:00 PM

    Roll Eyes
     Roll Eyes

    Get over your tribalistic mindset.

    donatelo  you seem not to know Aphrodite is  half tribal  and  many in CEMB are full tribal..

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  • Re: Oh boy! news says American kills three in Lahore!
     Reply #104 - February 07, 2011, 11:19 AM

    Wife of man killed by American Davis commits suicide  says news

    http://www.dawn.com/2011/02/07/wife-of-man-killed-by-davis-commits-suicide.html


    A nurse and unidentified relatives of Shumaila Kanwal, bottom, the widow of a Pakistani man allegedly shot and killed by a US official, stand beside her at a local hospital in Faisalabad.

    Quote
    FAISALABAD: The wife of one of two youths gunned down by a US government employee Raymond Davis in Lahore on Jan 27 committed suicide on Sunday.  Shumaila Kanwal, wife of Faheem Ahmed, took insecticides in the morning and was brought to Allied Hospital where she died a little before midnight. Hospital official Prof Zahid Yasmeen Hashmi confirmed her death.


    When she was brought to the hospital, Ms Kanwal told newsmen that she had decided to end her life in protest against “favourable treatment being accorded to the killer of her husband by police and reports that he will be set free”.

    Ms Kanwal had married Faheem Ahmed about six months ago.

    Her cousin said the 26-year old widow had taken insecticides to kill herself after learning Davis would be handed over to the US government without trial. She had returned to her parents’ home from Gadri village near Chak Jhumra a couple of days ago.

    She had told newsmen gathered at the hospital: “The killer is being treated as a guest at the police station. I need justice and blood for the blood of my husband.”

    She said that even after 11 days after the murder of her husband, there had been no progress in the case.

    Activists of Jamat-i-Islami gathered outside the hospital and held a demonstration. JI district chief Azeem Randhawa said Ms Kanwal was an orphan and her mother was disabled.

    Agencies add: Faheem’s brother Mohammad Waseem told AFP that Ms Kanwal was plunged into a “severe depression” by her husband’s death.

    She took the poison before dawn and was rushed to the hospital early on Sunday, he said.

    Quote
    “I want blood for blood. The way my husband was shot, his killer should be shot in the same fashion,” she had told reporters at the hospital. “I do not expect any justice from this government,” said Ms Kanwal in a statement recorded by doctor Ali Naqi. “That is why I want to kill myself.”

    Mohammad Faheem’s wife Shumaila this morning took poisonous pills and she was taken to Allied Hospital” in Faisalabad, local police chief Usman Anwar told AFP.

    Earlier, Dr Naqi confirmed the suicide attempt, describing her condition as critical.

    The shootings have stoked anti-American sentiment in Pakistan, feelings that could be further inflamed by Ms Kanwal’s death.

     
    That will certainly add fuel to the fire...  

    She is orphan from Faisalabad , lives in Faisalabad married  a guy from Lahore who runs around with  guns and Motor cycles and she talks about Islamic revenge, blood for blood .......  blood money that Islam teaches her ..

    I wonder any one convinced her about the blood money she could have extracted from American Embassy..  

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  • Re: Oh boy! news says American kills three in Lahore!
     Reply #105 - February 07, 2011, 08:58 PM

    Pakistani's don't understand the concept of money compensation for human life.

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  • Re: Oh boy! news says American kills three in Lahore!
     Reply #106 - February 07, 2011, 09:20 PM

    donatelo  you seem not to know Aphrodite is  half tribal  and  many in CEMB are full tribal..


    You are wrong here,  all the members of CEMB are tribals .They belong to a tribe called ' CEMB'.
    So at least here Aphrodite is fully tribal.



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  • Re: Oh boy! news says American kills three in Lahore!
     Reply #107 - February 09, 2011, 01:27 PM

    I think my suspicions of Americans in Pakistan were right all along:

    ISLAMABAD: In an interesting twist to the  Lahore double murder involving a US ‘diplomatic official’, prosecutors have recommended that an espionage case be also registered against him, sources said on Tuesday.


    “During the course of investigation, police retrieved photographs of some sensitive areas and defence installations from Davis’ camera,” a source told The Express Tribune requesting anonymity. “Photos of the strategic Balahisar Fort, the headquarters of the paramilitary Frontier Corps in Peshawar and of Pakistan Army’s bunkers on the Eastern border with India were found in the camera,” the source added.

    The police had recovered a digital camera, a Glock pistol and a phone tracker along with a charger from Davis after his arrest. The Punjab government considers Davis a security risk after the recovery of the photos of sensitive installations, said the source.

    http://tribune.com.pk/story/116246/davis-may-also-face-espionage-charge/

    In response the US threatens to cut aid:

    http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia/2011/02/20112971538456329.html


    I think its time Pakistan closes its supply routes again  parrot
  • Re: Oh boy! news says American kills three in Lahore!
     Reply #108 - February 09, 2011, 01:53 PM

    I think my suspicions of Americans in Pakistan were right all along:

    ISLAMABAD: In an interesting twist to the  Lahore double murder involving a US ‘diplomatic official’, prosecutors have recommended that an espionage case be also registered against him, sources said on Tuesday.


    “During the course of investigation, police retrieved photographs of some sensitive areas and defence installations from Davis’ camera,” a source told The Express Tribune requesting anonymity. “Photos of the strategic Balahisar Fort, the headquarters of the paramilitary Frontier Corps in Peshawar and of Pakistan Army’s bunkers on the Eastern border with India were found in the camera,” the source added.

    The police had recovered a digital camera, a Glock pistol and a phone tracker along with a charger from Davis after his arrest. The Punjab government considers Davis a security risk after the recovery of the photos of sensitive installations, said the source.

    http://tribune.com.pk/story/116246/davis-may-also-face-espionage-charge/
    ...............................

       and you believe in tribune.com??

      what Balahisar Fort?  what pictures and what espionage case are you talking Aphrodite ??  Pictures of Balahisar Fort. you can get it from Google earth .. I am sure  Americans  have better imaging equipment than digital cameras and Glock pistols.  That does't mean Mr. Davis was going to visit  girls in red light area of Lahore., that is where this incident happened.  He could as well be collecting intelligence against Uncle Osama., or it could be pure self defense/ fear of getting hurt..
    The News from land of pure is always in a no spin zone.. and it spins 180 degrees from one news paper  to other paper.

    here watch the Balahisar Fort

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o5YIP9AP9c

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3EUFNMv8Fg

    and let us read a bit  about its history..  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bala_Hisar_Fort

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  • Re: Oh boy! news says American kills three in Lahore!
     Reply #109 - February 09, 2011, 05:34 PM

    I think my suspicions of Americans in Pakistan were right all along:

    ISLAMABAD: In an interesting twist to the  Lahore double murder involving a US ‘diplomatic official’, prosecutors have recommended that an espionage case be also registered against him, sources said on Tuesday.

    Military spy satellites have resolution of up to 5cm in real time. Instead of using such a superior resource for gathering intel CIA sends in a guy with a camera to take a few shots of an old fort and some bunkers on Indian border?
    I know that CIA is useless but this?

    Google images results for "Balahisar Fort": http://www.google.co.uk/images?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&channel=s&hl=en&q=Balahisar+Fort&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1920&bih=994

    Google images results for "pakistani bunkers on indian border" :http://www.google.co.uk/images?um=1&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&channel=s&tbs=isch:1&&sa=X&ei=zM9STde5NsmFhQfsxuzMCA&ved=0CDMQvwUoAQ&q=pakistani+bunkers+on+indian+border&spell=1&biw=1920&bih=994
  • Re: Oh boy! news says American kills three in Lahore!
     Reply #110 - February 09, 2011, 06:12 PM

    The Same Story from American News papers:


    Did Ray Davis Shoot Two Pakistani Agents?  Pakistani Officials Claim American Killed Men Working for ISI
    Quote
    The public narrative from the United States is simple: one of its diplomats in one of the most dangerous countries in the world was threatened by two men with guns, and the diplomat shot and killed them in self-defense. He sits in jail, "illegally detained," because he enjoys diplomatic immunity.

    But the version of events told by multiple Pakistani officials -- and adamantly denied by the U.S. State Department -- is utterly different. The four Pakistani officials who spoke to ABC News on the condition of anonymity say that the two men who Raymond Davis killed in Lahore last month were working for Pakistan's premiere intelligence service, and they were following Davis because he was spying.

    If true, their story dramatically changes the nature of an incident that is already severely straining the two countries' already tumultuous relationship. Davis's detention is fraying the U.S. alliance with Pakistan, one of the most delicate and important in the world. U.S. and Pakistani officials both admit the fate of Raymond Davis could threaten an alliance that is critical to the war in Afghanistan and the fight against al Qaeda.

    Quote
    According to the Pakistani officials, the two men had been sent to track Raymond Davis by the Inter-Services Intelligence, or ISI, which believed that Davis had crossed "a red line" and needed to be followed.


    In late January, those officials say, Davis was asked to leave an area of Lahore restricted by the military. His cell phone was tracked, said one government official, and some of his calls were made to the Waziristan tribal areas, where the Pakistani Taliban and a dozen other militant groups have a safe haven. Pakistani intelligence officials saw him as a threat who was "encroaching on their turf," the official said.

    U.S. officials dispute the story. Davis came to Pakistan on a diplomatic passport and is a "member of the technical and administrative staff" of the embassy in Islamabad. He therefore enjoys diplomatic immunity, which means he may not be tried for a crime in Pakistan. In public and in private, U.S. officials say they do not believe reports that the two men Davis shot and killed were working for the ISI. They say the men had robbed another person before they approached Davis' car.

    Quote
    According to two officials close to Pakistan President Asif Ali Zardari, the White House has threatened to shut the U.S.'s three consulates in Pakistan and postpone the official bilateral, strategic dialogue, as well as Zardari's upcoming trip to Washington, D.C.


    A senior U.S. official declined comment on the consulates, but acknowledged that any meeting between the Pakistani and U.S. governments would be dominated by the Davis case right now -- making most bilateral meetings useless.

    Men Followed Davis For Two Hours, Says Official

    Quote
    Davis was traveling through a lower middle class part of Lahore on Thursday, Jan. 27, when the incident took place. The men he shot had been following him for at least two hours, one of the Pakistani officials claimed, and recorded some of his movements on their cell phone cameras. Davis has a U.S. Special Forces background and runs Hyperion Protective Consultants, LLC, a company that provides "loss and risk management professionals."


    Quote
    The U.S. embassy in Islamabad refused to respond to questions about why Davis was armed, who he had been calling, or whether he was found in a sensitive part of the Lahore cantonment.

    That the ISI sent the equivalent of two hired guns to trail Davis is a sign that the relationship between the U.S. and Pakistani intelligence agencies is at a low point, according to all four officials quoted in this article. In October, the ISI helped reveal the name of the CIA station chief -- inadvertently, according to a separate, senior Pakistani official -- forcing the station chief to leave the country.

    Quote
    the wife of one of the men he killed committed suicide Sunday by taking a tablet usually used to keep grain in a silo from going bad in the winter. When she first arrived at the hospital she was still able to speak, and her doctors allowed television reporters to interview her. She released a diatribe of hate to describe why she swallowed the tablet.

    "I do not expect any justice from this government," Shumaila Kanwal said. "That is why I want to kill myself.

    "I want blood for blood," she said. "The way my husband was shot, his killer should be shot in the same fashion."


    Quote
    Last Thursday, Davis appeared in court without a translator and without prior notification to the U.S., the Islamabad embassy said in a statement. U.S. officials say those events convinced them Davis could not receive a fair trial in Pakistan. The judge extended his detention for another eight days. He is next scheduled to appear in court on Friday, Feb. 9.


    Boy this is indeed spinning out of control....  read it all at http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/ray-davis-shooting-pakistan/story?id=12869411&page=3

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  • Re: Oh boy! news says American kills three in Lahore!
     Reply #111 - February 09, 2011, 06:15 PM

    Civil society asks govt not to release Davis









    Humm... Raymond Davis got a metal chain leash..  this is funny US mission contacts Punjab govt for Davis release
    Quote
    The United States Consulate has contacted the government of Punjab and demanded release of arrested US official Raymond Davis. US Consulate here has asked the government of Punjab to provide assistance for release of Davis, who was arrested after killing of two men, a private TV reported. The government told the US officials to wait for the decision of the court as matter has been in court.

    That says  Punjab Govt is more powerful than Pakistan's govt .. So Americans directly dealing with Punjab Govt skipping Pakistan's govt.

    read it all at http://www.thenews.com.pk/NewsDetail.aspx?ID=10873

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  • Re: Oh boy! news says American kills three in Lahore!
     Reply #112 - February 09, 2011, 06:26 PM

    Law minister Rana Sanaullah at the Punjab Cafeteria  on Mr. Raymond Davis

    Quote
    ...He said while the US government was demanding Davis’s release the provincial government was committed to investigating the case fairly.

    “We have refused to succumb to the US pressure,” he said.

    He said it was unfortunate that some parties had sought political mileage out of the issue. He said they should realise that it was a very sensitive issue and any irresponsible action could harm national interest “For country’s sake, they should avoid politicizing the issue,” he said.

    National interest.. National interest.. what is it??  I don't care about that

    but.. but But my good friend in designer cloths Rana Sanaullah seems to be always living either in Cafeterias or some one's bed rooms..

    Pakistan: Former spymaster warns against handing over US murder suspect

    Quote
    Former army officers will take action against the Pakistani government if it releases a US diplomat who is suspected of murder and espionage, ex-intelligence services chief and general Hamid Gul warned on Wednesday. “If the government shows any softness in the case of Raymond Davis, former army officers would play their role in the defence of the national interest, " Gul told a crowd of approximately 200 men and women in Islamabad.

    "Enough is enough! Americans killed our men and yet our government is apologetic," Gul said.

    “We don’t want any hostilities with the United States of America but we warned Americans that do not test our nerves too much,” retired General Hamid Gul maintained.

    The issue of Davis, an American employee of the US diplomatic mission in Pakistan has become a bone of contention between Pakistan and the United States of Americ


    and that is from this guy  the hero of Taliban movement..



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSLgC4cTKcs

    The RASCAL is the god father of ruining   Afghanistan and now  could be Pakistan

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  • Re: Oh boy! news says American kills three in Lahore!
     Reply #113 - February 09, 2011, 06:41 PM

    Military spy satellites have resolution of up to 5cm in real time. Instead of using such a superior resource for gathering intel CIA sends in a guy with a camera to take a few shots of an old fort and some bunkers on Indian border?
    I know that CIA is useless but this?

    Google images results for "Balahisar Fort": http://www.google.co.uk/images?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&channel=s&hl=en&q=Balahisar+Fort&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1920&bih=994

    Google images results for "pakistani bunkers on indian border" :http://www.google.co.uk/images?um=1&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&channel=s&tbs=isch:1&&sa=X&ei=zM9STde5NsmFhQfsxuzMCA&ved=0CDMQvwUoAQ&q=pakistani+bunkers+on+indian+border&spell=1&biw=1920&bih=994



    Shhhh.......  We all know there is a CIA + Mossad + RAW alliance to spy against Pakistan.


    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: Oh boy! news says American kills three in Lahore!
     Reply #114 - February 09, 2011, 07:16 PM

    Quote from: yeezevee
    The News from land of pure is always in a no spin zone.. and it spins 180 degrees from one news paper  to other paper.

    ................but.. but But my good friend in designer cloths Rana Sanaullah seems to be always living either in Cafeterias or some one's bed rooms..



    Quote from: deusvult
    Shhhh.......  We all know there is a CIA + Mossad + RAW alliance to spy against Pakistan.


     mysmilie_977 Lmao




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  • Re: Oh boy! news says American kills three in Lahore!
     Reply #115 - February 09, 2011, 10:25 PM


    Shhhh.......  We all know there is a CIA + Mossad + RAW alliance to spy against Pakistan.




    I never mentioned the CIA and no-one mentioned the Mossad or RAW............
  • Re: Oh boy! news says American kills three in Lahore!
     Reply #116 - February 09, 2011, 10:30 PM

      and you believe in tribune.com??

    I am sure  Americans  have better imaging equipment than digital cameras and Glock pistols.  That does't mean Mr. Davis was going to visit  girls in red light area of Lahore., that is where this incident happened.  He could as well be collecting intelligence against Uncle Osama., or it could be pure self defense/ fear of getting hurt..
    The News from land of pure is always in a no spin zone.. and it spins 180 degrees from one news paper  to other paper.

    here watch the Balahisar Fort

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o5YIP9AP9c

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3EUFNMv8Fg

    and let us read a bit  about its history..  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bala_Hisar_Fort


    An x-ray camera and a laser gun? Lol if Osama is in Pakistan, that doesn't give the US justification to go after him, I mean its not as if he's been found guilty by a thing known as a court but that's another topic altogether  grin12 Those photos could reveal those rather crappy videos don't.
  • Re: Oh boy! news says American kills three in Lahore!
     Reply #117 - February 09, 2011, 10:35 PM

    Military spy satellites have resolution of up to 5cm in real time. Instead of using such a superior resource for gathering intel CIA sends in a guy with a camera to take a few shots of an old fort and some bunkers on Indian border?
    I know that CIA is useless but this?

    Google images results for "Balahisar Fort": http://www.google.co.uk/images?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&channel=s&hl=en&q=Balahisar+Fort&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1920&bih=994

    Google images results for "pakistani bunkers on indian border" :http://www.google.co.uk/images?um=1&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&channel=s&tbs=isch:1&&sa=X&ei=zM9STde5NsmFhQfsxuzMCA&ved=0CDMQvwUoAQ&q=pakistani+bunkers+on+indian+border&spell=1&biw=1920&bih=994


    Satellites can only take pics from an aerial view  Tongue If you wanted to see someone or something you wouldn't be able to tell unless the someone was looking up or if the something was uncovered. There's nothing revealing about the images of Bala hisar Fort or the bunkers thing in google images. If the images he took were 'kosher' there wouldn't be all this stuff about espionage.
  • Re: Oh boy! news says American kills three in Lahore!
     Reply #118 - February 09, 2011, 10:38 PM

    So wait, an American "diplomat" who murders men who might be working for the ISI, he's found with pics of military instalments and a phone tracker and you expect me to believe he's innocent?  Roll Eyes
  • Re: Oh boy! news says American kills three in Lahore!
     Reply #119 - February 09, 2011, 11:56 PM

    So lets get this right.  An American diplomat is being tailed by the ISI ( the same ISI who can't seem to find the Taliban leaders in the Northern Tribal area but is able to trace the calls made by an American diplomat), is supposedly confronted and instead of doing what EVERY diplomat in diplomatic history does, which is be taken in and then quietly be shipped back ( see all the spies in the soviet bloc era, the recent spies caught for Russia, the American spies Russia caught etc)  , he decides to go James Bond, shoot and kill both ISI agents and call in the calvary who runs over another pedestrian to "rescue" him in country that isn't inherently hostile to Americans but would be if Americans went around killing Pakistanis, all for a pictures of a every day military base ( keeping in mind that the US has had access to Pakistani nuclear sites and military installations since forever or at least has the ability to keep tabs on them)?

     

    I mean maybe he is a secret sleuthy double agent taking pictures of the heroic Pakistani's military bases for his CIA ( or possibly Indian) superiors penetrating Pakistan to the heart of power and a sadistic cold blooded murder found guilty in a country that reciently condemned a Christian lady to death for words that she denies and apparently two Muslim women and who thinks that a MIT biology graduate  hanging around the biological experimentation unit of Al Qaida with night vision binoculars is completely innocent and is the "country's daughter" but who knows.  


    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
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