Damn in these modern days with internet these atheism is increasing exponentially. Do you have any idea why that is so Shattered ?? those highlighted words are good., but you must keep in mind that living with a bit of fear is more important than dying., once the person it is no use unless there is great cause for being dead.. well that says it all why you became an atheist at an young age , CEMB is filled with science freaks so join the company and welcome to forum dear Shattered
Internet and books do help alot i beleive that people are starting to be more reasonable =p, Lets hope this trend continues. yea i see where your coming from thanks for the advice mate but don't worry i don't live any where near a radical muslim =p.
welcome !! you gotta get out of Pakistan asap man !!
Thanks man and yea i am trying th best i can =p
lcome, Shattedre!
I like you a lot so far and I don't even mind your age, but I will not discuss anything on the forum with you. The reason is simple: your actions (spreading atheism in Pakistan) make you in my opinion, what they call in USA "a goner" and I don't want to get even mildly attached.
Take care.
You lost me on the bold part mate. I am not really spreding atheism like "IsLAms SUCks anD ATHisem RocKS and you are stupid for belveing in allah" the only thing i tell peple is to have doubt and read the quran everyonce in a while crticly =o. and i ussaly end the talk with "you have your veiws i have mine , i respect yours and you should respect mine" But yea it depends on the person i am talking too, so far i have noticed the educated people are easy to convincce then the uneducated. But yea its hard to have a rational argument in pakistan. oh btw thanks for the welcome =p.
Hey welcome shattered. Do what everyone else is saying. And be very careful of what you say as long as you are in Pakistan.
Anyways have a parrot. parrot
Ha thanks for the parrot man you cna have one too
Hi I'm also a 17 year old pakistani [canadian] atheist.
How do you do?
Where in pakistan are you from? How do people react to your obviously radical thoughts?
Good know =p
I am from quite a remote part of punjab , I live in Gujrat city "yes i have read the rules and i know i am responciable for any private information i give". and well mate it depnds on the person i am talking to. My brother is a quite chilled and rexled back fellow he agrees with most of my arguments, He beleives in evolution, He beleives that the quran isn't perfect and hell he even states it cearly that Islam is not the relegion of peace but for some reason he can't let go of it. and some people concider me to be an idiot "quite ironic when you hear that from someone who hasn't even finished school" Some people don't want to hear about what i have to say. And they'll disagree with anything i say just because i told then i don't beleive in god.
I thought this was going to be one of Tutsie's socks.
Welcome, Shattered.
Sorry to disapoint you mate =p and thanks
How could a semi-illiterate man have known about astronomy 1400 seconds ago?
Be careful what you say in PK about prophet Muhammad salla walla halla. You'd probably be better off with the "I just don't understand why you believe X" approach rather than making negative claims, you might live longer Smiley
Welcome!
Here is how that argument goes
Me: Why do you beleive in god
Muslims: Beacuse i am a muslim
Me: yes but why are you a muslim?
Muslims: beacuse i beleive in islam
Me: Why do you beleive in islam?
Muslims: Beaucse islam is the only ture relegion all the other relegions have been edited
Me: Then how can you say that your's isn't edited
Muslims: Beacuse it says so in the quran
Me: why do you beleive in the quran?
Muslim: Beacuse the phrotphet of allah wrote the book
Me: How do you know know Mohmaad was a prophet ?
Muslim: Beacuse it says so in the quran
me: *bangs head against wall*
you sound like a man after my own heart - so how did you get your parents to accept your pov? I still havent managed that one yet! Also tell us how you eventually found this site..
My parents are well educated people my mum is an Anthroplogist so she is used to listenting to diffrent opinions. and she still loves me even if i don't beleive in god. She also accepts my arguments but she tells me "there is a reason its called faith". My dad likes to argue with me but always ends up saying "I don't have knowledg on the subject we'll talk when i study the subject more" and he wounds up telling me that everytime =p.
And well i was the video "Richard Dawkins on the big debate" and there i saw Maryam Namazi and found out about her Comunity. Later on one of my friends also linked me to the site and encouraged me to join but i was to lazy
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Thanks for the warm welcome everyone =D.
Topic: All of you are idiots and your going to hell for denying Allah swt