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  • Re: Re: Libya
     Reply #360 - August 25, 2011, 02:25 AM
    Quote from: Aphrodite on August 24, 2011, 04:12 AM
    They're not doing it for the right reasons, are they?

    There's something I should point out regarding this. You seem to think the reasons for action are important. I don't.

    Frankly, I don't give a rat's arse what the private reasoning of the UN delegates was when they were deciding how to vote on intervention. If they were all thinking intervention would give them greater access to oodles of goat pr0n and that this was really cool, I don't care. All I care about is the result.

    If this change of government ends up being good for the Libyan people, I will consider that satisfactory regardless of what the initial reasons for intervening were.
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Re: Libya
     Reply #361 - August 25, 2011, 03:32 AM
    Quote from: osmanthus on August 25, 2011, 02:07 AM
    If Gaddafi had been able to use his air force and armoured divisions with impunity during that period, I think it is fair to say that the revolutionary forces would have been in extremely deep shit.



    Agreed.

    Quote from: osmanthus on August 25, 2011, 02:07 AM

    I realise you love taking any and every excuse to rant against NATO, but it does make sense to take account of the realities on the ground in Libya.



    Ummm no. If that was the case I'd be making a thread every time some villager was killed by NATO forces in Afghanistan or a drone strike next door. In case you hadn't noticed I do criticise others too. Seeing as NATO is the biggest military imperialist power (for now) naturally they would receive more stick from me  Tongue

    I don't think those are the only priorities, but I do think they were significant factors.

    Quote from: osmanthus on August 25, 2011, 02:07 AM

    I think the ICC should sentence him to life imprisonment for appalling taste.


     Cheesy

    I think he should be tried in Libya instead of the ICC.
  • Re: Re: Libya
     Reply #362 - August 25, 2011, 05:57 AM
    Looks like he will be, if he is captured alive. Earlier the NTC was talking about shipping him and his sons off to the ICC, but today they seem to favour trial in Libya.
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  • Re: Re: Libya
     Reply #363 - August 25, 2011, 06:26 PM
    Reports of British & French special forces in Libya  Roll Eyes


    How long before the NTC are called traitors, munafiqs, apostates etc. by Islamists and clerics?  whistling2  Gaddafi is using this, he's released an audio tape telling Libyans to fight the "rats, crusaders and unbelievers"

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/25/idINIndia-58976020110825

    This might cause splits within the rebels too.
  • Re: Re: Libya
     Reply #364 - August 25, 2011, 07:24 PM
    Looks like Gaddafi had a hard-on for Condoleeza Rice Tongue

    http://photoblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/08/25/7470058-in-the-ruins-of-gadhafis-lair-rebels-find-album-filled-with-photos-of-his-darling-condoleezza-rice
    19:46   <zizo>: hugs could pimp u into sex

    Quote from: yeezevee
    well I am neither ex-Muslim nor absolute 100% Non-Muslim.. I am fucking Zebra

  • Re: Re: Libya
     Reply #365 - August 25, 2011, 09:19 PM
    Quote from: Aphrodite on August 25, 2011, 06:26 PM
    This might cause splits within the rebels too.


    Inshallah my fine Pakistani sister.
    fuck you
  • Re: Re: Libya
     Reply #366 - August 25, 2011, 09:58 PM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gDfq2vxyXk
    "The words that oscillate between nonsense and supreme meaning are the oldest and truest." - C.G. Jung
  • Re: Re: Libya
     Reply #367 - August 25, 2011, 10:29 PM
    Quote from: Aphrodite on August 25, 2011, 06:26 PM
    Gaddafi is using this, he's released an audio tape telling Libyans to fight the "rats, crusaders and unbelievers"

    He has been doing that for weeks, if not months. Wink
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  • Re: Re: Libya
     Reply #368 - August 25, 2011, 10:31 PM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qs1MeMiHJ2Y
  • Re: Re: Libya
     Reply #369 - August 25, 2011, 10:34 PM
    What's it about? I CBF'd trying to load every random video on my connection. Takes too long.
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  • Re: Libya
     Reply #370 - August 25, 2011, 10:50 PM
    Quote from: osmanthus on August 25, 2011, 10:34 PM
    What's it about? I CBF'd trying to load every random video on my connection. Takes too long.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtOoQFa5ug8
    Left the forum: http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=22997
  • Re: Re: Libya
     Reply #371 - August 25, 2011, 10:52 PM
    @Aphrodite: I was curious about DU and started a thread here: DU rounds and residue effects

    TalkRats is loaded with professional scientists, so is a handy place to discuss such things.

    I've read the PDF that Mike linked to, and there weren't any particularly abnormal effects noted in that study.
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  • Re: Libya
     Reply #372 - August 26, 2011, 12:05 AM
    Quote from: GodIsNotGreat on August 25, 2011, 07:24 PM
    Looks like Gaddafi had a hard-on for Condoleeza Rice Tongue

    http://photoblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/08/25/7470058-in-the-ruins-of-gadhafis-lair-rebels-find-album-filled-with-photos-of-his-darling-condoleezza-rice


     Cheesy

    Apparently they found gay porn at his son's house or something!

    Quote from: Colonel Q-Daffi on August 25, 2011, 09:19 PM
    Inshallah my fine Pakistani sister.


    lol don't take my anti-NATO stance as being Pro-Gaddafi  Tongue As a muslim I hated that cunt so much I believed that killing him was an obligation for muslims  Tongue Still hate him, just not as much.....

    Quote from: osmanthus on August 25, 2011, 10:29 PM
    He has been doing that for weeks, if not months. Wink


    Then he didn't have any credibility in what he was saying coz he was chums with some of those very "crusaders" he talks about a few months earlier. If these reports of troops being on the ground are true he has some credibility in his claims from an Islamic POV.

    Quote from: osmanthus on August 25, 2011, 10:52 PM
    @Aphrodite: I was curious about DU and started a thread here: DU rounds and residue effects

    TalkRats is loaded with professional scientists, so is a handy place to discuss such things.

    I've read the PDF that Mike linked to, and there weren't any particularly abnormal effects noted in that study.


    lol ok thanks, I'll bookmark it and keep an eye on it.
  • Re: Re: Libya
     Reply #373 - August 26, 2011, 12:22 AM
    Quote from: Aphrodite on August 26, 2011, 12:05 AM
    Then he didn't have any credibility in what he was saying coz he was chums with some of those very "crusaders" he talks about a few months earlier. If these reports of troops being on the ground are true he has some credibility in his claims from an Islamic POV.

    Well I still think he would have very limited credibility for the moment, but I agree that the longer any foreign troops stay in Libya the dodgier things are likely to get.
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  • Re: Re: Libya
     Reply #374 - August 26, 2011, 03:37 AM
    There have been special forces in Libya from various countries training the rebels for some time.  That is how they pushed to Tripoli, how they got camo, and how they learned with way was up with a rocket launcher. 
    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: Re: Libya
     Reply #375 - August 26, 2011, 05:35 AM
    That doesn't mean they should stay there though.  Several neo cons have already called for a "stabilizing force" to be deployed.  Yea let's send a 19 year old Alabama kid to North Africa when the only time he has heard the word tribe was in American history books about Native Americans to "stabilize" a place most soldiers couldn't point to on a map  whistling2
    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: Re: Libya
     Reply #376 - August 26, 2011, 03:04 PM
    Quote from: deusvult on August 26, 2011, 03:37 AM
    There have been special forces in Libya from various countries training the rebels for some time.  That is how they pushed to Tripoli, how they got camo, and how they learned with way was up with a rocket launcher. 


    Exactly. The rebels are agents of the imperialists. They want to seize Libya from the Libyan people.
    fuck you
  • Re: Libya
     Reply #377 - August 26, 2011, 08:04 PM
    Hearing that Gaddafi forces have been trying to disrupt Tripoli water supplies (and I hope nothing more sinister besides) #libya
  • Re: Re: Libya
     Reply #378 - August 26, 2011, 10:00 PM
    Quote from: deusvult on August 26, 2011, 05:35 AM
    That doesn't mean they should stay there though.  Several neo cons have already called for a "stabilizing force" to be deployed.  Yea let's send a 19 year old Alabama kid to North Africa when the only time he has heard the word tribe was in American history books about Native Americans to "stabilize" a place most soldiers couldn't point to on a map  whistling2

    Sounds like a neo-con idea. They're terribly astute about this sort of thing. Just ask them.
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Re: Libya
     Reply #379 - August 29, 2011, 07:13 PM
    http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-world/gaddafi-wife-children-flee-to-algeria-20110830-1jiti.html



    I am so ashamed of my country right now.
    قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
    مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

    قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
    حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

    ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
    لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
  • Re: Re: Libya
     Reply #380 - August 29, 2011, 11:38 PM
    Ha. I was only saying to Q yesterday that Gaddafi himself might go to Algeria, I think he'll follow his family. The likes of Saddam and Gaddafi aren't as religious as the likes of Osama so instead of becoming martyrs they flee, well Saddam tried to  parrot
  • Re: Re: Libya
     Reply #381 - August 29, 2011, 11:41 PM
    I do remember Osama's martyrdom at Tora Bora. 
    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: Re: Libya
     Reply #382 - August 30, 2011, 12:02 AM
    What? You think he died then?
  • Re: Re: Libya
     Reply #383 - August 30, 2011, 12:10 AM
    ^  He's being sarcastic in response to your post about martyrdom.
    "Many people would sooner die than think; In fact, they do so." -- Bertrand Russell

    Baloney Detection Kit
  • Re: Re: Libya
     Reply #384 - August 30, 2011, 12:13 AM
    Oh, well I hope he realises I was being sarky when I used the word "martyrs"...........
  • Re: Re: Libya
     Reply #385 - August 30, 2011, 12:17 AM
    ^ No, he meant Bin Laden fled from Tora Bora too (to Pakistan).
    "Many people would sooner die than think; In fact, they do so." -- Bertrand Russell

    Baloney Detection Kit
  • Re: Re: Libya
     Reply #386 - August 30, 2011, 01:07 AM
    Oh lol, I wouldn't say he "fled" that would imply he left combat (something which in his own words was prohibited by Muhammed) He just evaded capture by fighting and moved onto a safer location. In the book I'm currently tora bora is described as a victory for Al-Qaeda......and had he been killed he'd be regarded as a martyr as he is now, Saddam on the other hand was captured, humiliated and killed by the Americans and shias  Cheesy
  • Re: Libya
     Reply #387 - August 30, 2011, 01:15 AM
    Don't think you can properly compare a deposed head of state to the leader of an insurgent organization.
    fuck you
  • Re: Re: Libya
     Reply #388 - August 30, 2011, 01:38 AM
    It's a "tactical retreat."
    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: Re: Libya
     Reply #389 - August 30, 2011, 05:37 AM
    Tactical retreat = run away.
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