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  • The fallacy of Muhammad's illiteracy
     OP - February 26, 2011, 10:12 PM
    Hi all

    I've made a video on this subject.  I had some weird stuff going on at one point so instead of making it live I thought I'd post it here first.  Please let me know if it screws up or not, you'll know what I mean when you've finished watching it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuxO4lVfwo0
    I don't come here any more due to unfair moderation.
    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=30785
  • Re: The fallacy of Muhammad's illiteracy
     Reply #1 - February 26, 2011, 10:32 PM
    freezes for me
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  • Re: The fallacy of Muhammad's illiteracy
     Reply #2 - February 26, 2011, 10:59 PM
    what IsLame said; the video freezes right after I chose the correct answer but when I chose one of the incorrect ones it worked fine up to the point when I clicked on the "click here to try again" when the video froze again
  • Re: The fallacy of Muhammad's illiteracy
     Reply #3 - February 26, 2011, 11:12 PM
    Ha ha, I love this video  grin12
    Thumbs up all the way.
  • Re: The fallacy of Muhammad's illiteracy
     Reply #4 - February 26, 2011, 11:14 PM
    Oh and the running part was hilarious  Cheesy

    Light's quicker than THAT!?.....LIES!!!!  Smiley
  • Re: The fallacy of Muhammad's illiteracy
     Reply #5 - February 26, 2011, 11:18 PM
    Works for me (Opera browser)
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  • Re: The fallacy of Muhammad's illiteracy
     Reply #6 - February 27, 2011, 12:36 AM
    Quote from: Kenan on February 26, 2011, 10:59 PM
    what IsLame said; the video freezes right after I chose the correct answer but when I chose one of the incorrect ones it worked fine up to the point when I clicked on the "click here to try again" when the video froze again

    you using IE too?
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  • Re: The fallacy of Muhammad's illiteracy
     Reply #7 - February 27, 2011, 12:42 AM
    Quote from: muddy on February 26, 2011, 11:18 PM
    Works for me (Opera browser)

    I use Opera and the video worked fine aswell.
    (Really screws up on flash websites though, the wix.com editor in particular)
  • Re: The fallacy of Muhammad's illiteracy
     Reply #8 - February 27, 2011, 01:19 AM
    Great video TR!

    Opera and Chrome: works perfectly
    Firefox: freezes for every answer
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    <three>: what's the word i'm looking for
    <dust>: throat
  • Re: The fallacy of Muhammad's illiteracy
     Reply #9 - February 27, 2011, 01:24 AM
    Good vid, Rationalizer.

    Although, I myself would contest the premise that Muhammad was illiterate in the first place. There's a hadith in Bukhari in which he actually writes part of a treaty with the pagans, a hadith in Musnad Ahmad in which he spells a word, and he reviewed and standardised the Qur'an yearly, which would have been quite hard to do if he were illiterate.
  • Re: The fallacy of Muhammad's illiteracy
     Reply #10 - February 27, 2011, 01:25 AM
    I think he was illiterate to begin with, and then learned the basics of how to read & write later on
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  • Re: The fallacy of Muhammad's illiteracy
     Reply #11 - February 27, 2011, 01:36 AM
    Quote from: mighty_cats on February 27, 2011, 12:42 AM
    (Really screws up on flash websites though, the wix.com editor in particular)

    These days, no browser works perfectly for all the websites. At my work, I keep getting most bizarre bugs from QA for very specific browser in very specific operating system. Like IE7 on Vista, IE6, Safari 3.x (although latest version of Safari is 5.x).. And because we support all the browsers, it has to work in all of them.
    Now that IE9 is out, and with HTML 5, it is going to be a real mess.
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  • Re: The fallacy of Muhammad's illiteracy
     Reply #12 - February 27, 2011, 03:21 AM
    Great video Afro
    19:46   <zizo>: hugs could pimp u into sex

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  • Re: The fallacy of Muhammad's illiteracy
     Reply #13 - February 27, 2011, 03:45 AM
    Quote from: Zebedee on February 27, 2011, 01:24 AM
    There's a hadith in Bukhari in which he actually writes part of a treaty with the pagans

    Bing.

    Muslims have heard this a number of times, but never put thought to it.

    Can't blame them. The hadith is one speakers will reference when they're telling a gruelling long account about Muhammad and how he did business.
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  • Re: The fallacy of Muhammad's illiteracy
     Reply #14 - February 27, 2011, 04:54 AM
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    The fallacy of Muhammad's illiteracy


    That stupidity of Muslim comes out of understanding/misunderstanding of these verses from Quran

    Quote
    007.157: Those who follow the Messenger-Prophet, the Ummi, whom they find written down with them in the Taurat and the Injeel (who) enjoins them good and forbids them evil, and makes lawful to them the good things and makes unlawful to them impure things, and removes from them their burden and the shackles which were upon them; so (as for) those who believe in him and honor him and help him, and follow the light which has been sent down with him, these it is that are the successful.

    007.158: Say: O people! surely I am the Messenger of Allah to you all, of Him Whose is the kingdom of the heavens and the earth there is no god but He; He brings to life and causes to die therefore believe in Allah and His messenger, the Ummi Prophet who believes in Allah and His words, and follow him so that you may walk in the right way.


    That is NOT  "The fallacy of Muhammad's illiteracy",   To believe those verses  literally one must be a STUPID . So

    "it is the stupidity coupled to the  illiteracy of Muslims" makes that Muhammad's illiteracy a fallacy
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  • Re: The fallacy of Muhammad's illiteracy
     Reply #15 - February 27, 2011, 07:14 AM
    Quote from: TheRationalizer on February 26, 2011, 10:12 PM
    Hi all

    I've made a video on this subject.  I had some weird stuff going on at one point so instead of making it live I thought I'd post it here first.  Please let me know if it screws up or not, you'll know what I mean when you've finished watching it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuxO4lVfwo0


    What exactly are you, the OP, expecting from a guy named Muhammed who himself said his father was Satan, and that Satan raped his mother Amina?

    http://pyemministry.blogspot.com/2011/02/breaking-news-study-reveals-satan-had.html
  • Re: The fallacy of Muhammad's illiteracy
     Reply #16 - February 27, 2011, 07:23 AM
    Thanks for the feedback, I think I will have to split this into 4 videos.
    I don't come here any more due to unfair moderation.
    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=30785
  • Re: The fallacy of Muhammad's illiteracy
     Reply #17 - February 27, 2011, 10:22 AM
    Quote from: IsLame on February 27, 2011, 12:36 AM
    you using IE too?

    FF

  • Re: The fallacy of Muhammad's illiteracy
     Reply #18 - February 27, 2011, 11:19 AM
    In FF I found it freezes with any answer in the embedded vid here, but when I clicked to see it on the youtube website any answer works. There's some great points well made in this vid (I like the Einstein internet analogy). I guess they might try to counter that he could learn and remember things, but claim that stuff like embryology wouldn't have been discussed outside of literate scholarly circles (pretty weak argument).

    It's interesting how even the Quran acknowleges that Muhammad was accused of getting his info from other people and was repeating tales from the ancients, so they clearly thought he was capable of obsorbing information and had knowledgable contacts.
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  • Re: The fallacy of Muhammad's illiteracy
     Reply #19 - February 27, 2011, 12:18 PM
    Opera doesn't freeze, but opens the video in new tab... I think FF is confused whether you are clicking the answer or opening it in a new window..
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  • Re: The fallacy of Muhammad's illiteracy
     Reply #20 - February 27, 2011, 12:23 PM
    cool vid TR! i loved your reactions to all answers, hilarious!

    it worked fine for me and i use Chrome for mac (if that matters).
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    I think a lot of us were brought here by google. Verily google guides whom it wills!

  • Re: The fallacy of Muhammad's illiteracy
     Reply #21 - February 27, 2011, 12:26 PM
    Quote from: armanduk2010 on February 27, 2011, 07:14 AM
    What exactly are you, the OP, expecting from a guy named Muhammed who himself said his father was Satan, and that Satan raped his mother Amina?

    http://pyemministry.blogspot.com/2011/02/breaking-news-study-reveals-satan-had.html


    This is what everyone thinks when they read your comments. Just wanted to make it clear.
    After this, you'll be treated just like the squid, unless someday you won't post a comment that's fucking retarded for once.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CW_fc7A06E
    <dust>: i love tea!!!
    <dust>: milky tea
    <three>: soooo gentle for my neck (from the inside)
    <dust>: mm
    <three>: it's definitely not called neck
    <dust>: lol
    <three>: what's the word i'm looking for
    <dust>: throat
  • Re: The fallacy of Muhammad's illiteracy
     Reply #22 - February 27, 2011, 01:01 PM
    Quote from: three44 on February 27, 2011, 12:26 PM
      you'll be treated just like the squid...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CW_fc7A06E

    Oh common three44, give some respect to squid. I treat squids much better., please don't insult the squid..
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Re: The fallacy of Muhammad's illiteracy
     Reply #23 - February 27, 2011, 02:18 PM
    Would those of you who had problems please try this one and let me know whether or not it works okay?  Skip to 7:38 to save time.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLFl8pi-W4k
    I don't come here any more due to unfair moderation.
    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=30785
  • Re: The fallacy of Muhammad's illiteracy
     Reply #24 - February 27, 2011, 02:36 PM
    Quote from: TheRationalizer on February 27, 2011, 02:18 PM
    Would those of you who had problems please try this one and let me know whether or not it works okay?  Skip to 7:38 to save time.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLFl8pi-W4k

    That is wonderful primer for your future videos dear TheRationalizer., Now I would like to listen those 92 facts.. miracles ..whatever..
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Re: The fallacy of Muhammad's illiteracy
     Reply #25 - February 27, 2011, 02:58 PM
    92 was an exaggerated number for the purpose of illustration.  The point was that even if there were as many as 92 facts that Muhammad had to learn, it's still only 1 fact every 3 months.

    I don't come here any more due to unfair moderation.
    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=30785
  • Re: The fallacy of Muhammad's illiteracy
     Reply #26 - February 27, 2011, 03:13 PM
    Quote from: TheRationalizer on February 27, 2011, 02:18 PM
    Would those of you who had problems please try this one and let me know whether or not it works okay?  Skip to 7:38 to save time.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLFl8pi-W4k


    New version seems to be working better with Safari: 7 continues with video; other choices smoothly take to a new video, no freezing this time.
    "That it is indeed the speech of an illustrious messenger" (The Koran 69:40)
  • Re: The fallacy of Muhammad's illiteracy
     Reply #27 - February 27, 2011, 03:14 PM
    Excellent, thanks!
    I don't come here any more due to unfair moderation.
    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=30785
  • Re: The fallacy of Muhammad's illiteracy
     Reply #28 - February 27, 2011, 04:12 PM
    works fine now  Afro
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  • Re: The fallacy of Muhammad's illiteracy
     Reply #29 - February 27, 2011, 04:13 PM
    Thanks for testing, crappy youtube! Smiley
    I don't come here any more due to unfair moderation.
    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=30785
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