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  • EDL West Midlands division
     OP - March 04, 2011, 09:52 PM


    EDL members sporting the banners of the Ulster Volunteer Force (UVF) the loyalist terrorist organisation that murdered hundreds of Catholics during the troubles.







    Keep it classy, guys Afro

    http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/news/article/1818/EDL-photo-SHOOT


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: EDL West Midlands division
     Reply #1 - March 04, 2011, 11:02 PM

    :-/
  • Re: EDL West Midlands division
     Reply #2 - March 04, 2011, 11:18 PM

    EDLOL

    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: EDL West Midlands division
     Reply #3 - March 04, 2011, 11:20 PM


    He looks like a Confederate soldier.

    "Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
    - Robert Louis Stevenson
  • Re: EDL West Midlands division
     Reply #4 - March 05, 2011, 06:04 AM


    Guerilla chav.  I like.

    Notice his grandmother's house's wallpaper.  Nice touch.

    Against the ruin of the world, there
    is only one defense: the creative act.

    -- Kenneth Rexroth
  • Re: EDL West Midlands division
     Reply #5 - March 07, 2011, 04:06 PM

    Photo shopped lies.

    Arthur.
  • Re: EDL West Midlands division
     Reply #6 - March 07, 2011, 04:12 PM

    proof?
  • Re: EDL West Midlands division
     Reply #7 - March 07, 2011, 04:58 PM

    Reminds me of those clowns from Four Lions

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRhpYw4S6pA

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: EDL West Midlands division
     Reply #8 - March 07, 2011, 05:00 PM

    Photo shopped lies.


    I think you're the little drummer boy in the middle.

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: EDL West Midlands division
     Reply #9 - March 07, 2011, 08:00 PM

    I think Armanduk is the leader of this group http://www.facebook.com/pages/English-Defence-League-Pakistani-Christian-Division/160341150676065 Cheesy...

    Just look at the sun and the moon, rotating around the earth perfectly! Out of all the never ending space in the universe, the sun and moon ended up close to earth rotating around it perfectly.!!

  • Re: EDL West Midlands division
     Reply #10 - March 12, 2011, 08:52 PM

     Got to agree with Arthur here. Even if they aren't faked its hard to take them seriously as it looks more like some guys acting out a fantasy rather than a group intent on carrying out mass murder.
  • Re: EDL West Midlands division
     Reply #11 - March 12, 2011, 09:02 PM

    As agnostics and opposers of Islamism or any other faith. I would take the EDL as a threat to our cause. Who on earth would invite a Radical Rabbi from America who defends Jewish Radicalism.

    EDL are exploiting our struggle and using our banner to spread hatred and racism plus its been proven their Facist Racists.

    BNP have played a big role in the creation of the EDL, one of the founders of the EDL has been convicted of pedophila and has registered on the sex offenders register. Plus the founder Stephan or whatever his name is, was convicted for beating up a police officer while his wife was arrested for pocession of co caine.

    Not only are they junkies and drunkards, they are in no way intellectuals. It makes me laugh, seeing Mr Stephan speak at a pub about protesting the Hindu Youth,Sikh Youth and Christian and Jew youth from Islam in the UK, as if his Jewish Defence League buddies are not awaiting for their messiah to arrive so the gentiles can work as slaves while they drink wine from hard labour.

    Sikhs are heavily influciend by Islam. especially Sufi Poetry, Plus when Hindus were slaughtering sikhs not long ago, sikhs were protected by their fellow Muslim Punjabi in Pakistan.

    EDL are a Joke, So are the Muslim defence League, who are a bunch of Radical Islamists.


  • Re: EDL West Midlands division
     Reply #12 - March 13, 2011, 12:15 PM


    Pashtun, most Sikhs and Hindus and Jews don't support the EDL.

    Here are a couple of links describing how a large scale mobilisation of Hindu and Sikh organisations, temples and prominent figures have condemned the EDL, and how the EDL have also been condemned by Jewish organisations and bodies.

    http://lancasteruaf.blogspot.com/2011/02/sikh-and-hindu-groups-slam-edl.html

    http://thecst.org.uk/blog/?p=1956

    So I don't think you should get caught up in making sectarian generalisations because of a few individuals like that, makes no sense at all.


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: EDL West Midlands division
     Reply #13 - March 13, 2011, 06:09 PM

    How am I being sectarian? I am extremely offended by your comment.

    I was referring to a incident where stephen lennox was at a pub telling the audiance to protect Hindu,Sikh,Jew Youth from Islam in the UK. I still can not see how I am being sectarian and generalising.

    Sikhs are no different than the Majority of Pakistanis, as they are Punjabis and same blood as their breathren in India. So it makes me laugh at seeing  Guramit Singh who looks like any rural punjabay from Rawalpindi.

    The Jewish Extremism aspect is quite clear, Radical Jewish groups do support the EDL, go google roberta moore and the Jewish defence League.

    I am not saying all these groups support EDL

  • Re: EDL West Midlands division
     Reply #14 - March 13, 2011, 07:25 PM


    Pashtun, don't be offended, there really is no need, its a waste of your energy. I'm not going to add anything to what I said in my last post.



    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: EDL West Midlands division
     Reply #15 - March 13, 2011, 07:36 PM

    He did not make a sectarian generalization. You were wrong billy.

    fuck you
  • Re: EDL West Midlands division
     Reply #16 - March 13, 2011, 07:38 PM


    Cavalry has arrived  Afro


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: EDL West Midlands division
     Reply #17 - March 13, 2011, 07:44 PM

    You could just admit you were wrong and mischaracterized Pashtun's position.

    fuck you
  • Re: EDL West Midlands division
     Reply #18 - March 13, 2011, 08:11 PM



    Maybe 'sectarian generalisation' was the wrong phrase to use. I think its important to stress that the EDL does not have the support of the masses of Jews, Hindus and Sikhs, and I'll explain why in the next paragraph. Thats why I highlighted the statements put out by the various community activists and bodies. A thousand apologies to our member from Waziristan for that wobbly turn of phrase, and I hope this soothes him somewhat.

    The truth of the matter is the EDL presents a challenge not just to the harmony of society because of the tensions it stokes between Muslims and white Britons - but because of the intra-minority tensions it stokes by appealing to Jews, Hindus and Sikhs, as well as the gay community (the EDL have a LGBT group, trying to appeal to gay people who are being persecuted on the streets in parts of London, for example)

    There is no doubt that non Muslim minorities have felt very uneasy and nervous with the rise of Islamism and extremism in the UK, both because they've seen it up close, but also because it shifts their own context in British society with the uncertainties, questions and challenges it makes. But by and large they have kept their heads down low, and they have not criticised or contributed to the debate about Islamic extremism in any substantive manner, in the ways that we have seen them organise against things like racist violence in the past, and against the BNP and EDL here. Partly because they have not wanted to be seen to be laying into Muslims in general.

    And for that reason, EDL-ism (not so much the EDL as the 'ism' it represents) does appeal to a minority of individuals from those communities, for the same reason that it appeals to individuals in the white population. This is a very, very dangerous accelerant to add to the stockpile of gunpowder that is being played with.

    The ground upon which they want to fight these battles is a sectarian battle, and when you go to parts of Birmingham, the midlands and London (for example - the history of tensions between Sikh and Muslim gangs) believe me those are the narratives we should be tip-toeing around very carefully, stressing the positive rejection of EDL-ism by those communities, rather than face-offs of various sectarian resentments.

    I hope that makes clear what I meant.


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: EDL West Midlands division
     Reply #19 - March 14, 2011, 03:24 PM

    Pashtun.

    There's a lot of wooly and off key thinking in your post and to me you seem to be guilty of exactly what you are accusing the EDL of doing, i.e. tarring everyone with the same brush. I have tremendous sympathy with your opening remark, the rational community has grown in the last decade and is attracting members from all walks of life. Unfortunatly these people may choose to demonstrate their dislike of islam by joining a group that undoubtedly has some it's roots in an explicitly racist organisation, the BNP. This would be a bad thing, but I can see why people would do it, with the lofty idea of changing the EDL from within. Good luck to them, they'll need it.

    You went on to say some other stuff; one of the founders is a convicted paedophile. I've never heard of this and it would be nice if you could back this up. Then you said the Stephen Lennon has been convicted of beating up a police officer, again source please. But even if  what you say is true, this in itself does not render the opinions of these people invalid. You're falling into the argument from authority fallacy.

    Then you went on; Not only are they junkies and drunkards, they are in no way intellectuals. If you used the same logic to judge everyone in this society you would isolate yourself from almost every group exept the extremely religious. Most worthwhile cultures are made up from groups include drinkers and drug takers, get over it. Then you got spiteful saying that "they are in no way intellectuals", so what? Only intellectual people have valid opinions? Is that what you're saying? The majority of people who are suffering from the contorted efforts of this liberal society to bend over backwards to accommodate islam are the white working class. Uneducated does not equal worthless, and that's what you make someone if you simply ignore them. The white working class have been ignored, that's why they're flocking to the EDL.

    "Happy happy, joy joy!" Stimpson J Cat.
  • Re: EDL West Midlands division
     Reply #20 - March 14, 2011, 03:53 PM

    Dear Neale.

    Thanks for responding to my comment.

    EDL Pedophile

    http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/blog/article/1080/Tommy-Robinson-defends-a-convicted-paedophile

    http://unitedwrexham.co.uk/2011/01/04/far-right-%E2%80%98hero%E2%80%99-is-a-convicted-paedophile/


  • Re: EDL West Midlands division
     Reply #21 - March 14, 2011, 05:17 PM

    The problem is that EDL can't do police checks on people and you have to accept people mainly at face value as do most political parties.
    http://mccannexposure.wordpress.com/2009/12/30/labour-party-criminals/
    http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/criminal_convictions_and_employe

    So would it be true to say that millions of people voted Labour and Tory despite the above and the parties concerned then throw out the offenders, distance them selves and that is generally acceptable to the voters.

    EDL do exactly the same, we throw out such people, what more can you ask.

    The EDL may have people who were involved in the BNP, but have chose to leave because EDL is more closer to their views in that we abhor racism,homophobia and sexism.

    So it's wrong to judge all of EDL because of the actions of a few, just as the main political parties are not judged by these things.

    If you need to criticise the EDL then use the same methods that you would use to criticise other political groups.

    If you listen to what EDL say about Sikh's Hindu's etc, it is to state that those groups are integrating well and have become a part of English society and are not seen as a threat and we are always appealing for people from these groups to come and join us, the reason the so called leaders of these communities are against EDL is they want to appease the Islamists, hoping that they will be left alone, feeding the crocodile in the hope it will eat them last. Silly really, because the Islamist won't have any mercy on them should they ever gain any real power.

    Some people in these groups see the danger and are prepared to fight back, you should note by the way, that no person in an EDL protest has ever come to any harm because of their skin colour.

    Most peoples opinion of the EDL is based on what the media says and the media is wrong, the Daily Mail call us Islamaphobic, when it is always carrying news that is hostile to muslims not Islamists.
    The News of the world does much the same, this from their editors who themselves are criminals with their phone hacking.

    Arthur.
  • Re: EDL West Midlands division
     Reply #22 - March 14, 2011, 06:21 PM

    Oh come on Arther!

    EDL are associated with the likes of roberta moore,pamela geller, robert spencer, who are all Religionous Bigots, who hold onto the same agenda as Islamists, that our religion and way of life is better, one extreme from the other.

    EDL are provokers, they provoke hate.

    Recently, a priest was attacked, EDL without evidence stated on their forum that a Muslim did it, then they said sorry and said a non muslim did it.

    When somebody does a crime, one must be careful with their words, EDL are nothing but a organisation created by the likes of Alan Lake, Roberta Moore, who are Radical Religonous Jews, who want to use the working class in Britain to attack British Muslims, Roberta even stated that its the Jewish defence league who really exploits the EDL!

    Muslims are then used by the likse of Anjem Choundary when they see a bunch of drunkard bigots roaming around their communities causing problems and incitement to racial hatred.

    Come on Arther, Stephan Lennox made it quite clear, that he is against ALL MUSLIMS, he changed his original decision which was, he is only against Militant Islam.

    Stephan, is not sincere, EDL are a bunch of uneducated tools, used by powers much higher than them.

    We Agnostics would never associate with a bunch of Drunk St george cross wearing Hooligans, who one side complain about Islamism, but on the other side, they run around with Rabbis and St georges cross wearing facists.

    Religionous extremism is extremism in every Religion. EDL is no exception. I am a member of their forum, I spent time discussing things with them, guess what, over 90 percent of them all turned out to be a bunch of facists racists, none of them debated Islam as we do here, all of them resorted to insulting skin colour, culture this and culture that, some even said its a conspiracy that Muslims want us not drunk during Protests, they fear our pwoer when drunk, etc etc etc.

    EDL is just a front of the BNP due to its failure,corruption and bankrupcy, BNP once hated Jews, then they found out the Jews are rich, and enlised two jews into their party and begged for their vote, so do not be amazed if its true.



  • Re: EDL West Midlands division
     Reply #23 - March 14, 2011, 06:26 PM

    Quote
    BNP once hated Jews, then they found out the Jews are rich, and enlised two jews into their party and begged for their vote


    Oh brother.


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: EDL West Midlands division
     Reply #24 - March 14, 2011, 06:38 PM

    So it's wrong to judge all of EDL because of the actions of a few


    How bout we judge them based on you? A man who wants people jailed for peacefully advocating republicanism in the UK, who dismisses any criticism of his rah-rah-rah British Empire Queen and Country cheerleading with brain-dead responses like "your just anti British", and doesn't seem to know how to use apostrophes?

    Okay, you may not be a fascist or a racist, but if you want people on this forum to think the EDL aren't a bunch of ignorant, reactionary, hard-right meatheads, I'd suggest sending a better representative than yourself.

    fuck you
  • Re: EDL West Midlands division
     Reply #25 - March 14, 2011, 07:04 PM

    I'd suggest sending a better representative than yourself.

    Yeah, I can't believe Arthur was alive during the War. From his posts on the forum, I always pictured him as some naive young kid who got caught up in stupid shit because he didn’t know better. He doesn’t have an excuse though, he's just some thick as pig shit old blowhard.

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: EDL West Midlands division
     Reply #26 - March 14, 2011, 07:06 PM

    What war?

    fuck you
  • Re: EDL West Midlands division
     Reply #27 - March 14, 2011, 07:09 PM

    WW2

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: EDL West Midlands division
     Reply #28 - March 14, 2011, 07:10 PM

    How old is this dude?

    fuck you
  • Re: EDL West Midlands division
     Reply #29 - March 14, 2011, 07:14 PM

    Dunno, said he was a schoolboy in the 40's or 50's or something, can't remember.

    How old are you Arthur?

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
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