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  • Re: Douglas Murray puts Yvonne Ridley in her place
     Reply #30 - March 08, 2011, 08:34 PM

    Fantastic book, highly recommend it Afro


     Roll Eyes

    fuck you
  • Re: Douglas Murray puts Yvonne Ridley in her place
     Reply #31 - March 08, 2011, 08:42 PM

    OOO EEEMMM GEEEE

    @billy: listen to Medhi at about 5:43

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Re: Douglas Murray puts Yvonne Ridley in her place
     Reply #32 - March 08, 2011, 08:48 PM

    Honestly right, sometimes I'm amazed at how well Murray is in touch with moderate Muslims in the UK (in the sense to knowing how many of them don't have loyalty to this country, for example).
    Because he is completely correct from my life personal experience. Very clever chap. He's going far, better get your "Neoconservatism: Why We Need It" book signed before it's worth a lot of money!   Tongue
  • Re: Douglas Murray puts Yvonne Ridley in her place
     Reply #33 - March 08, 2011, 09:12 PM

    OOO EEEMMM GEEEE

    @billy: listen to Medhi at about 5:43

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I thought those stats he pulled out from the guardian were a very powerful argument for his case

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  • Re: Douglas Murray puts Yvonne Ridley in her place
     Reply #34 - March 08, 2011, 09:15 PM

    In the Autumn of 2005 Yvonne Ridley was in Copenhagen, being the star speaker at a meeting arranged by an association calling itself Muslims in Dialogue. The meeting was attended by around 1,000 mostly young Muslims and of course gender segregated.

    Below, some excerpts from an article written by one of the panelist, Lars Erslev Andersen, who is a historian and terror expert.

    Yvonne Ridley makes some hair raising remarks

    Quote
    But there was to be no dialogue that evening. Already after a few words of Ridley's speech, it became abundantly clear that she had not come to initiate dialogue, but only to present a petrified ideology based on the fact, that all evil in this world is caused by the United States and Great Britain, and terrorism is merely a result of this western evil, while Muslims are innocent victims. Her comparison of Tony Blair with Pol Pot speaks in this context for itself.

    Jeppe Kofod distanced himself from her views, but tried otherwise in his  friendly way to engage in dialogue. However, he, understandably I think, became somewhat tight lipped, when Ridley taught him,  that his positive view on the recent elections in Afghanistan and his negative view of the Taliban regime showed,  that he had succumbed to malicious Western propaganda. Personally I did not believe my ears when I asked Ridley if she did not find it problematic that Islamists distribute recruitment videos showing the slaughtering of hostages by terrorists in Iraq and she  replied that it was necessary for Muslims to have these videos as an alternative news coverage to the Western media's propaganda. Seeing these scenes of slaughter as an alternative  and essential news coverage seems to be an expression of a sick mind, and seeing that this viewpoint even elicited applause from the audience, depressed me.

    While Jeppe Kofod laudably attempted to engage in dialogue, and I, without much success, tried to bring a little objectivity, Jon Kaldan was brave enough to denounce  Ridley's views, which he rightly pointed out are devastating for the desired dialogue. That afternoon I had had a meeting with the Prime Minister and strenuously argued for the necessity of dialogue between the Muslim immigrant community and the Danish society. I must admit, that Monday evening I doubted very much the usefulness of such a dialogue. If someone like Yvonne Ridley is regarded as a representative spokeswoman for associations such as "Muslims in Dialogue". Then dialogue is merely a disguise for ossified propaganda.

    I certainly hope it is not  to be the norm and the level of dialogue, which I still think may be helpful. "


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  • Re: Douglas Murray puts Yvonne Ridley in her place
     Reply #35 - March 08, 2011, 09:21 PM

    I thought those stats he pulled out from the guardian were a very powerful argument for his case


    There are other stats that around that reveal what our reality is really like.
    Were you not shocked by his two-facedness in what he said at 5:43  ??!!??!!

    The BBC only have Medhi on (despite how rude he is in shouting over his opponents) because they want to see an equal and fair debate and there is just no one better (who else? Nawaz?) because there logically can't be anyone better because Islam in all it's mainstream form is a pile of reverse evolutionary psychology!
  • Re: Douglas Murray puts Yvonne Ridley in her place
     Reply #36 - March 08, 2011, 09:23 PM

    In the Autumn of 2005 Yvonne Ridley was in Copenhagen, being the star speaker at a meeting arranged by an association calling itself Muslims in Dialogue. The meeting was attended by around 1,000 mostly young Muslims and of course gender segregated.

    Below, some excerpts from an article written by one of the panelist, Lars Erslev Andersen, who is a historian and terror expert.

    Yvonne Ridley makes some hair raising remarks

    http://www.uriasposten.net/archives/2625



    Thanks for sharing!
  • Re: Douglas Murray puts Yvonne Ridley in her place
     Reply #37 - March 08, 2011, 09:55 PM

    Honestly right, sometimes I'm amazed at how well Murray is in touch with moderate Muslims in the UK (in the sense to knowing how many of them don't have loyalty to this country, for example).


     Roll Eyes

    Quote
    Because he is completely correct from my life personal experience.


    Oh, well, then, your anecdotal evidence and personal grudges most certainly justify his xenophobic alarmism, and bigoted, authoritarian war-hawk scaremongering.

    Quote
    Very clever chap. He's going far, better get your "Neoconservatism: Why We Need It" book signed before it's worth a lot of money!   Tongue


    Not as much as an autographed Mein Kampf.

    fuck you
  • Re: Douglas Murray puts Yvonne Ridley in her place
     Reply #38 - March 08, 2011, 09:58 PM

    Thanks for sharing!

    can you read dutch  Huh?

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  • Re: Douglas Murray puts Yvonne Ridley in her place
     Reply #39 - March 08, 2011, 10:03 PM

    No, it's Danish or Norwegian.

    "Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
    - Robert Louis Stevenson
  • Re: Douglas Murray puts Yvonne Ridley in her place
     Reply #40 - March 09, 2011, 01:53 AM

    I am gaining respect for Douglas Murray even though I understand he is a bit of a neo-con, but from what I have seen he is literally telling it like it is. The line about Press TV was golden.

    Yvonne, Yvonne, Yvonne... what happened to you? You were the convert-heroine of Islam TV, the great hope for Muslims everywhere, your story of conversion was quite amazing! She seems to be less sure of herself now.


    Interestingly enough, Douglas Murray is also gay (he did say it during a speech I watched on YouTube). My inclinations would say that he supports liberal social values, it is the neo-conservative idea of invading other countries and establishing democracy that I am uneasy about. I just find the term "neo-conservative" hard to get my head around, but no doubt I do agree with most of his opinions or views of his that I have seen so far.
  • Re: Douglas Murray puts Yvonne Ridley in her place
     Reply #41 - March 09, 2011, 02:08 AM

    Quote
    Interestingly enough, Douglas Murray is also gay ......

    I despise Murray,  .....................
    Bit of a neocon?

    He wrote a book called Neoconservatism: Why We Need It and enthusiastically supports the Iraq War[/b][/u]. He's neoconservatism's leading pundit in the UK.


     

     umm interesting..  the guy is a gay, a neocon, a leading Neoconservatism book writer , leading pundit of neoconservatism, A gay who like every one to behave like Britisher including Muslims .

    He is cameleon, it is better to trust Saddam Hussain than that gay guy who insults Islam

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    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Douglas Murray puts Yvonne Ridley in her place
     Reply #42 - March 09, 2011, 05:40 AM

    Ridely's penchant for middle eastern men has led her down the road to Islamic idiocy.

    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: Douglas Murray puts Yvonne Ridley in her place
     Reply #43 - March 09, 2011, 05:47 AM

    The corrollary of that Kenan is also that criticism by Muslims of anything unIslamic leads to hatred of non Muslims and foments violence or jehadism.

    Ridley's Ummah logic also says that if an attack on one Muslim and / or Islam is an attack on all Muslims, then an attack by one Muslim against others is also an attack by all Muslims and / or Islam on others.

    Its asserting collective guilt and punishment on all non Muslims, and on Muslims too.

    Its a simple and devastating point to make, but one that people are remarkably unable to articulate to these Ummah bullshit artists for whatever reason when they appear in the media.



    Well said

    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: Douglas Murray puts Yvonne Ridley in her place
     Reply #44 - March 09, 2011, 06:12 AM

    Ridely's penchant for middle eastern men has led her down the road to Islamic idiocy.


    From what I have read of her she was long down that road beforehand  cool2

    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
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    Just kidding, here are some true heros
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  • Re: Douglas Murray puts Yvonne Ridley in her place
     Reply #45 - March 09, 2011, 06:36 AM

    It is a shame that the Muslimah's killer had to commit this insane act. A strong defense of the behavior he was being sued for could have been made on the grounds that the Egyptian woman's CHOICE of dress was a consciously provocative symbolic endorsement of the violent "kafir"-demonizing ideology of the Koran and therefore of those who kill and maim in the name of Allah.

    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: Douglas Murray puts Yvonne Ridley in her place
     Reply #46 - March 09, 2011, 07:57 AM

    Thanks for the warm welcome.

    Afridi only likes to hit hard.

    She makes all this Mumbo Jumbo up.

    I remember she once praised Shamil Basayev, the mastermind of the Baslan school attacks, what she failed to mention, was that most of the children killed were Muslims, I confirmed this from a friend of mine who worked in the Chechen Security Forces under Kadyrov.

    She needs to be debated. She and that other English Convert always always uses this Islamophobia Card to avoid criticism, I remmeber she once said Muslims should not communicate with the Police, I mean who is going to keep the criminals of the street?

    She is untrustworthy and a dangerous person!, I am sorry for ranting, but I am a Pashtun, I have experience who the Taliban are and she lectures people on how caring and good they are.

    In the whole of Pashtun history, even during the so called Islamic war, Pashtuns hardly ever publically flogged or beheaded their own women, that was until Saudi/mullahs in Pakistan and ISI with help from CIA started the Wahabi infilitration of Pashtun Society,and we saw women being treated as targets and blamed for everything.

    I am just amazed at how she walks around with Socialists while she praises Jihadi Veterans such as Abu Hamza and supports a Islamist Agenda.
  • Re: Douglas Murray puts Yvonne Ridley in her place
     Reply #47 - March 09, 2011, 08:00 AM

    Absolutely


    Over one million Iraqis dead over false intelligence, I am sure there was a recent wikileak released about how they fabricated the intell to provide an excuse to invade.

    Douglas Murrey, also ignores the religonous side of Israel, the no go areas for uncovered women, the recent speech from the clerical rabbis stating gentiles are to serve the jews only, plus the don rabbi dude who also stated that Jewish women should never accept sperm donations from Gentiles as their children will be born inferior, Plus israel is proposing to give rabbis immunity from prosection? Why doesnt Murrey speak of such issues when he speaks ill of Islam.

    I oppose all religion, I would never take sides with another extreme to fight a different extreme, extreme is extreme!

  • Re: Douglas Murray puts Yvonne Ridley in her place
     Reply #48 - March 09, 2011, 07:14 PM

    Interestingly enough, Douglas Murray is also gay (he did say it during a speech I watched on YouTube). My inclinations would say that he supports liberal social values, it is the neo-conservative idea of invading other countries and establishing democracy that I am uneasy about. I just find the term "neo-conservative" hard to get my head around, but no doubt I do agree with most of his opinions or views of his that I have seen so far.


    Hey Unechance, I reckon if you had time to put in the research and read his book, you'll agree with neoconservatism. I bet you £10 via PayPal.
  • Re: Douglas Murray puts Yvonne Ridley in her place
     Reply #49 - March 10, 2011, 02:40 PM

    I have no doubt Ridley fantasizes about being a newly acquired eunuch-guarded virgin concubine all swathed in safron and silk in some turbanned sultan's scented harem way back when, her ample breasts heaving with ever-mounting anticipation and sexual arousal as she hears her master's footsteps approaching in the dead of night willing him to hurry to her that she may yield herself to his masterful demands and quench the fire burning in her loins with the hot torrent of his love milk pouring into her like the inexhaustible waters of jannah.

    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: Douglas Murray puts Yvonne Ridley in her place
     Reply #50 - July 24, 2011, 10:32 PM

    What she means by "didnt know Islam before Taliban" is that her Muslim husbands were not really practising Islamic teachings, they were secular, I dont understand though why she dresses so weird, cant she dress like a modest British woman would and yet be muslim? sometimes even the queen would pass off as muslim when shes not exposing legs, neck and arms and wearing a scarf on her head, a muslim women can dress that way Yevonne and need'nt turn herself into a spectacle in the name of religion.

    Logic should help you discern, instead of making your faith seem like a cult rather than all embracing as its meant to be, muslims tend to defame it.
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