An ex-Muslim from Malaysia

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An ex-Muslim from Malaysia
OP - March 09, 2011, 10:05 PM

Hi there folks!

I've known about CEMB for a while now but I've only started reading the forums a few days ago. I'd like to introduce myself here because firstly, I find most of you to be very agreeable and secondly, I'd like to make my presence as a Southeast Asian ex-Muslim visible. I've noticed there are already a few here and I'd like to add to that number. I'd also like to encourage future readers from the region to come out or at least make them feel they're not alone.

I had a Malay-Muslim upbringing but I currently consider myself as an atheist. I'm in my mid 20s and currently residing in the UK. I’ve spent quite a number of years here so I’ve always been exposed to a wide range of opinions. Even so, I only started questioning my beliefs late in my life. Before that, I lived by Islamic values.

I didn’t consider myself as a pious muslim, especially when compared to many that I know, but I was quite devout. I led a sober lifestyle, stayed away from non-halal food, tried my best to fill my daily prayer quotas and etc. And I occasionally turned to God whenever I was in a tight spot. That’s how much of a theist I was. I used to love Islam and Allah.

I started to become an agnostic when I had a conversation with a Muslim friend where he openly questioned whether Islam was the ”true” religion. By that the time I did have a tiny doubt but was too afraid to acknowledge it. Seeing someone with the same beliefs doing so empowered me. It took away the indoctrinated fear of questioning the religion. I felt that I wasn’t alone in having doubts and there were others like me.

I started taking more interest in World History and Science since then. Over time, I decided that Islam and other religions are man-made. My de-conversion process was gradual and was helped by copious amount of TV documentaries and research on the net.

Now, I’m an atheist and a skeptic and my outlook on life is considerably different. At one time I was a semi-nationalist, exclusive and somewhat narrow minded. Now I’m a liberal, inclusive and very open minded.

I am also more content with the world. With religion out of the way, everything just makes sense.
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Re: An ex-Muslim from Malaysia
Reply #1 - March 09, 2011, 10:15 PM

welcome welcome!!

how r u enjoying the dark side ? have u been able to tell anyone ?

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Reply #2 - March 09, 2011, 10:23 PM

Hey welcome Elias!
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Re: An ex-Muslim from Malaysia
Reply #3 - March 09, 2011, 10:26 PM

Selamat datang Welcome from another newbie, albeit one born and raised (for a large chunk of Sekolah Rendah, anyway..) in Malaysia. As per local custom, have a

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Reply #4 - March 09, 2011, 10:35 PM

Do you know any other exmuslims in real life?

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Reply #5 - March 09, 2011, 11:24 PM

Welcome to the forum, Elias.

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Re: An ex-Muslim from Malaysia
Reply #6 - March 09, 2011, 11:27 PM

Welcome to the forum.

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Re: An ex-Muslim from Malaysia
Reply #7 - March 09, 2011, 11:34 PM

Cheers. Thanks for the parrots and the bunny!

Quote from: canex on March 09, 2011, 10:15 PM
how r u enjoying the dark side ? have u been able to tell anyone ?

Hah, loving it! The "dark side" is actually lighter than the side I was on, tbh.

I've been an atheist for about 6 years now and I've told my mom. She's OK with it, as long as I'm happy. She's pretty open minded but it still took me ages to pluck up the courage though.

Quote from: toor on March 09, 2011, 10:26 PM
Selamat datang Welcome from another newbie, albeit one born and raised (for a large chunk of Sekolah Rendah, anyway..) in Malaysia. As per local custom, have a

Thanks Toor. Hello from another newbie as well then. Whereabouts are you based?

Quote from: IsLame on March 09, 2011, 10:35 PM
Do you know any other exmuslims in real life?

Actually I don't. Only virtual ones for now. Most of my friends in real life are agnostics or atheists and I don't have any religious family members in the vicinity to deal with. So being an ex-Muslim doesn't affect my life on a day-to-day basis. I've just put the issue on a back-burner for the past couple of years.

It's only at the end of last year that I've started to become a bit more vocal about it and that's why I'm here.
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Re: An ex-Muslim from Malaysia
Reply #8 - March 09, 2011, 11:48 PM

How did you manage that? Your mum is outside the norm, not many Muslim mums are so open minded about it?

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Reply #9 - March 10, 2011, 12:01 AM

Indeed. I suppose I should consider myself lucky to have her. You see, my family is quite liberal and my mom doesn't practise.

In fact, it's the reason why I became devout during my teenage years. I secretly hated the fact that my family wasn't religious. Silly me...
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Re: An ex-Muslim from Malaysia
Reply #10 - March 10, 2011, 12:20 AM

Quote from: Elias Hakimi on March 09, 2011, 10:05 PM
Hi there folks!.........
I am also more content with the world. With religion out of the way, everything just makes sense.

indeed everything makes better sense without those bookish religions., So are you familiar with with Indonesian FFI Hakimi ?

http://indonesia.faithfreedom.org/forum/forum.html

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Reply #11 - March 10, 2011, 03:20 AM

Welcome. Good to see another Southeast Asian ex-Muslim here. And you're residing in the UK? I'm envious. Living in a Malay-Muslim community is suffocating, to say the least.
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Re: An ex-Muslim from Malaysia
Reply #12 - March 10, 2011, 06:18 AM

Welcome
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Reply #13 - March 10, 2011, 07:50 AM

Welcome to the forums!

I don't come here any more due to unfair moderation.
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Reply #14 - March 10, 2011, 08:09 AM

welcome! i hope you enjoy your stay here have another bunny to collection

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Re: An ex-Muslim from Malaysia
Reply #15 - March 10, 2011, 09:58 AM

Quote from: Elias Hakimi on March 09, 2011, 11:34 PM

Thanks Toor. Hello from another newbie as well then. Whereabouts are you based?

I'm in the UK too. Lots of us kicking about..

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Re: An ex-Muslim from Malaysia
Reply #16 - March 10, 2011, 10:38 AM

Thanks again.

Quote from: yeezevee on March 10, 2011, 12:20 AM
indeed everything makes better sense without those bookish religions., So are you familiar with with Indonesian FFI Hakimi ?

Yeah, I know of it but Im not a frequent visitor though. Thanks.

Quote from: Mowser on March 10, 2011, 03:20 AM
Welcome. Good to see another Southeast Asian ex-Muslim here. And you're residing in the UK? I'm envious. Living in a Malay-Muslim community is suffocating, to say the least.

I've never lived in the region since becoming non-religious so I can't really say I know how it feels like. But I can get a sense of it based on anecdotes from friends online.

I suspect that being in Singapore would be slightly better than it's closer neighbours, no?

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Re: An ex-Muslim from Malaysia
Reply #17 - March 11, 2011, 01:35 AM

welcome

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Re: An ex-Muslim from Malaysia
Reply #18 - March 11, 2011, 09:44 AM

Quote from: Elias Hakimi on March 10, 2011, 10:38 AM
I've never lived in the region since becoming non-religious so I can't really say I know how it feels like. But I can get a sense of it based on anecdotes from friends online.

I suspect that being in Singapore would be slightly better than it's closer neighbours, no?

It definitely is. Still, it's hard being a closet atheist.

Anywyay, guess I'll see ya on the forum.
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Re: An ex-Muslim from Malaysia
Reply #19 - March 11, 2011, 07:03 PM

You are most welcome ex-brother in Islam

I'm open for debate (of why we should re-/embrace Islam), but I will no longer participate in this forum. Message me if you need anything. Good luck and may you all find your way... again...
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Re: An ex-Muslim from Malaysia
Reply #20 - March 16, 2011, 09:38 AM

Quote from: Elias Hakimi on March 09, 2011, 10:05 PM
I started to become an agnostic when I had a conversation with a Muslim friend where he openly questioned whether Islam was the ”true” religion. By that the time I did have a tiny doubt but was too afraid to acknowledge it. Seeing someone with the same beliefs doing so empowered me. It took away the indoctrinated fear of questioning the religion. I felt that I wasn’t alone in having doubts and there were others like me.

Do you know if this guy followed suit?

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Re: An ex-Muslim from Malaysia
Reply #21 - March 16, 2011, 09:36 PM

Quote from: IsLame on March 16, 2011, 09:38 AM
Do you know if this guy followed suit?

He wasn't really convinced that Islam was the True religion at the end of that conversation. But he chose to follow it since he was born as a Muslim and didn't know any better. Shame that he didn't think being non-religious was also an option.

That was ages ago and I've lost contact with the guy so I have no idea what he believes in now.
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Reply #22 - March 07, 2017, 07:26 PM

I realize that the last post under this thread is from years ago. I just wanted to say, I am an ex-Muslim from Malaysia too. I currently live in Canada. I hope to meet whomever still visits this website.

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