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  • Re: Help me return to Islam
     Reply #210 - May 02, 2011, 12:23 PM
     Cry Cry Cry

     far away hug far away hug far away hug

    I will cry with you, dear one!
    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: Help me return to Islam
     Reply #211 - May 02, 2011, 01:27 PM
    Thanks guys... Hissy fit over now.
    Hi
  • Re: Help me return to Islam
     Reply #212 - May 02, 2011, 01:29 PM
    Quote from: Jinn and Tonic on May 02, 2011, 12:23 PM
    Cry Cry Cry

     far away hug far away hug far away hug

    I will cry with you, dear one!


    Please don't. Everything is cool.

    Love you x
    Hi
  • Re: Help me return to Islam
     Reply #213 - May 02, 2011, 01:32 PM
    Is it really?
  • Re: Help me return to Islam
     Reply #214 - May 02, 2011, 01:41 PM
    Ah, I missed that..
    Admin of following facebook pages and groups:
    Islam's Last Stand (page)
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  • Re: Help me return to Islam
     Reply #215 - May 02, 2011, 02:25 PM
    Quote from: Prince Spinoza on May 02, 2011, 01:32 PM
    Is it really?


    Yeah, thanks prince. My emotions are now under control, even if the situation isn't. A cup of tea and a cig can cure anything.
    Hi
  • Re: Help me return to Islam
     Reply #216 - May 02, 2011, 09:47 PM
    musivore:

    Is it wrong of me to say Good Riddance?

    If she really loved you she would accept you for what you are and not what she wants you to be. Yeah yeah i know its a bit cliché. But thats how i see your situation.

    She asked you be a hypocrite - nothing more.
    "Beauty is truth, truth beauty," - that is all
            Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know.

    - John Keats
  • Re: Help me return to Islam
     Reply #217 - May 02, 2011, 09:55 PM
    No its not wrong of you to say that. But I can't respond properly right now without getting emotional, so I'll get back to you about that.
    Hi
  • Re: Help me return to Islam
     Reply #218 - June 10, 2011, 05:23 PM
    Well, Sunbul has informed that I'm technically no longer a minor under United Kingdomly law. I suggest we elope together into the sunset while singing Islam's Not For Me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dsd_79XPPc), indulging in generic merriment, and generally refraining from forcing each other to adopt certain metaphysical worldviews.
    قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
    مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

    قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
    حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

    ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
    لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
  • Re: Help me return to Islam
     Reply #219 - June 10, 2011, 06:55 PM
    A quote at a video link for the "Islam is not for me' song.

    Quote
    Abrahamic religion is a cancer. All the cannon faiths ( Judaism, Christianity, Judaism ) and even the little spin off fan-fiction fiaths ( mormonism. Jehovas, etc etc ). It's disgusting. For every uplifting humanizing story and message in these holy books there are 8 ass backwards pig disgusting oppressive violent ones. Abrahamic religion is for the submissive. They are masochists. Dipshits that need to be lead by the horn. No fuckin' spine. No human resolve. Submissive garbage.



    The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
                                   Thomas Paine

    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored !- Aldous Huxley
  • Re: Help me return to Islam
     Reply #220 - June 11, 2011, 12:46 PM
    hypocrucifier  I see that response as being just as bad.  Incredibly judgemental,
    and dissing people that may or may not feel that way.  AND its a thread hijack lol.

    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: Help me return to Islam
     Reply #221 - June 11, 2011, 07:27 PM
    Quote from: harakaat on June 10, 2011, 05:23 PM
    Well, Sunbul has informed that I'm technically no longer a minor under United Kingdomly law. I suggest we elope together into the sunset while singing Islam's Not For Me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dsd_79XPPc), indulging in generic merriment, and generally refraining from forcing each other to adopt certain metaphysical worldviews.


    Harakaat, the more I read from you, the more and more drawn to you I am. Be careful young man: carry on this way and I will be tempted to follow this dream that you describe above. In fact, you may wake one day to find me standing sheepinshly at your doorstep, suitcase in hand. And you will then be forced, from that day onwards, to put up with me forever  yes

    Quote from: Red Devil on June 11, 2011, 12:26 PM
    Good riddance? She left you Musivore?


    Mona – when I posted that, it was probably the lowest point in my marriage. Everything had just exploded and I was deeply hurt at the time because I was trying to accept that I was definitely about to lose my wife (and the right to bring up my child with her), and that there was no turning back.

    Since then, however, things have improved. I went away, took some advice from some people on this forum, and went back to my wife and told her some things that she needed to hear. I told her that I had been thinking about things and that I now accepted that there is no way for me to prove whether a God exists or not. I even went so far as saying that Islam could possibly be the answer to the conundrum of life.

    I basically lied to buy more time. That’s not the road I ever wanted to go down, but it seems I have chosen to do that now anyways.
    Hi
  • Re: Help me return to Islam
     Reply #222 - June 11, 2011, 07:31 PM
    Stay strong man
    [13:36] <Fimbles> anything above 7 inches
    [13:37] <Fimbles> is wacko
    [13:37] <Fimbles> see
    [13:37] <Fimbles> you think i'd enjoy anything above 7 inches up my arse?
  • Re: Help me return to Islam
     Reply #223 - June 11, 2011, 07:43 PM
    Cheers Kod.

    Things have been good for a few weeks now. She still has her crazy moments... but, hey, don't they all?
    Hi
  • Re: Help me return to Islam
     Reply #224 - June 11, 2011, 08:27 PM
    Sorry, I missed that Lara.

     I've only ever pushed my side of the argument once or twice. And what I have said to her in those occasions really affected her very badly. It seems to me that it hurts her deeply to even consider that aspects of the Qu'ran and of Mo's life may be less than perfect. It genuinely depresses her. On top of that, when I bring these arguments to the table, she seems to hate me for days, sometimes for weeks afterwards. Which is why I've been reluctant to do what you're suggesting.

    But, having said that, I've spent the day with Islame today and he has kind of convinced me to take up the fight again. I need to do this, for the sake of my son, and for the sake of the rest of my life with my wife... I need to create an element of doubt in my wife's head, so that she eases off us both a little. And when I work out how I'm going to go about doing this, I will try to use some of the arguments that you mention above Lara....

    Thanks for the advice Lara. I'll keep you posted once I succeed/end up in hospital.
    Hi
  • Re: Help me return to Islam
     Reply #225 - June 11, 2011, 08:46 PM
    Musivore, does your wife have any non-muslim friends? If not, do you think she would be willing to widen her horizons?
    At evening, casual flocks of pigeons make
    Ambiguous undulations as they sink,
    Downward to darkness, on extended wings. - Stevens
  • Re: Help me return to Islam
     Reply #226 - June 11, 2011, 08:49 PM
    Quote from: z10 on June 11, 2011, 08:46 PM
    Musivore, does your wife have any non-muslim friends? If not, do you think she would be willing to widen her horizons?


    Well, technically...

    O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them. Lo! Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk. - Quran 5:51
    قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
    مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

    قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
    حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

    ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
    لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
  • Re: Help me return to Islam
     Reply #227 - June 11, 2011, 09:24 PM
    That's very good advice Lara...and you're right, she does accept muslim apologists' version of some verses, such as the wife-beating one...why not try to get her to transfer that leniency to the anti-apostate/non-muslim verses also?

    Hi z10... She is a fairly well-rounded individual, with plenty of non-muslim friends. She is a social worker, so you'd expect a more open mind from her, just on that count. Unfortunately, it's hard to sometimes predict where, and within whom, the poisonous aspects of Islam are going to take root.
    Hi
  • Re: Help me return to Islam
     Reply #228 - June 11, 2011, 09:48 PM
    Musie, don't make me kill her. Just leave her and let's elope!

    (PS. Kidnap the kid)
    قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
    مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

    قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
    حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

    ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
    لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
  • Re: Help me return to Islam
     Reply #229 - June 11, 2011, 09:49 PM
    Loooool
    Hi
  • Re: Help me return to Islam
     Reply #230 - June 11, 2011, 09:56 PM
    Quote from: Lara91 on June 11, 2011, 09:43 PM
    or very good mumblings   whistling2 ..

     
     Don't do yourself down lara, your mumblings are worth a lot to me.

    Oh, and harakaat: you're too good for me already. Fortunately for me, you're too young to realise that just yet. But you will.
    Hi
  • Re: Help me return to Islam
     Reply #231 - June 11, 2011, 10:03 PM
    Haha, musivore, to be honest, I severely doubt that Tongue
    قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
    مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

    قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
    حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

    ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
    لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
  • Re: Help me return to Islam
     Reply #232 - June 11, 2011, 10:30 PM
    Be happy and follow your heart musivore, whatever path that takes.  Afro
    "The greatest general is not the one who can take the most cities or spill the most blood. The greatest general is the one who can take Heaven and Earth without waging the battle." ~ Sun Tzu

  • Re: Help me return to Islam
     Reply #233 - June 11, 2011, 11:14 PM
    Thanks Maya
    Hi
  • Re: Help me return to Islam
     Reply #234 - June 11, 2011, 11:17 PM
    Quote from: Maya on June 11, 2011, 10:30 PM
    Be happy and follow your heart musivore, whatever path that takes.  Afro

     

    says the spider to the fly *snicker snicker*

    us cougars should kidnap musivore and give him a night he will NEVER
    forget hehe   bunny bunny bunny
    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: Help me return to Islam
     Reply #235 - June 11, 2011, 11:19 PM
    Quote from: Maya on June 11, 2011, 10:30 PM
    Be happy and follow your heart musivore, whatever path that takes.  Afro

    Dont believe her Musi!
    That was her 666th post no
  • Re: Help me return to Islam
     Reply #236 - June 11, 2011, 11:32 PM
    roflmao!!!
    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: Help me return to Islam
     Reply #237 - June 12, 2011, 12:04 AM
    Quote from: musivore on June 11, 2011, 08:27 PM
    But, having said that, I've spent the day with Islame today and he has kind of convinced me to take up the fight again. I need to do this, for the sake of my son, and for the sake of the rest of my life with my wife... I need to create an element of doubt in my wife's head, so that she eases off us both a little. And when I work out how I'm going to go about doing this, I will try to use some of the arguments that you mention above Lara....

    Nooooo.  Actually after you left, I began to wonder if I had been to heavy goin (I'm well known for my opinionated trait).  I only tried to give you my opinion from what I could see, from the axioms & values I grew up with, from the kind of person that I am and situations I would be comfortable dealing with.  But everyone's different. Having said that, I try my best to take in the bigger picture and seeing the situation wearing anothers boots, I still cant see a better plan.  But thats still only my opinion. 

    Anyhow I'm up for a traditional desi-style curry & daal, with chapattis on the side.  So let my know the date & time Wink
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  • Re: Help me return to Islam
     Reply #238 - June 12, 2011, 12:14 AM
    Quote from: Jinn and Tonic on June 11, 2011, 11:17 PM


    says the spider to the fly *snicker snicker*

    us cougars should kidnap musivore and give him a night he will NEVER
    forget hehe   bunny bunny bunny


     grin12  what, where, when?   dance

    Quote from: Hananii on June 11, 2011, 11:19 PM
    Dont believe her Musi!
    That was her 666th post no


     whistling2   Cheesy
    "The greatest general is not the one who can take the most cities or spill the most blood. The greatest general is the one who can take Heaven and Earth without waging the battle." ~ Sun Tzu

  • Re: Help me return to Islam
     Reply #239 - June 12, 2011, 11:16 AM
    Damn!!!, after reading the whole thread i dont think i will ever marry a muslimah in my life,no matter how liberal she is. We can date, or have a casual relationship but marriage is out of question.too bad my mother is going to be hurt if that happens but its my life.

    Im sorry that you are going through hard times Musivore, i can relate with few of the things especially the part where her friends and a sheikh are involving themselves in your marital life,which i find it wrong and its very annoying if people do that. I hope everything will go well for you at the end.

    Hard luck far away hug
    "I'm standing here like an asshole holding my Charles Dickens"

    "No theory,No ready made system,no book that has ever been written to save the world. i cleave to no system.."-Bakunin
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