Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents

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Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
Reply #120 - October 07, 2011, 07:24 PM

Alas, no.

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Reply #121 - October 07, 2011, 08:40 PM

Hamza Tzortzis or Hamza Tortoise or Hamza Tortilla... whatever .

A better thing to do with that guy is go through his web site., he has written some stuff read it and educate him & his Dawahgandists about the nonsense he writes., if he has written anything original and good ..then give the credit to the guy..

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Reply #122 - October 07, 2011, 08:41 PM

Its Hamza the Greek

Little Fly, Thy summer's play
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I too dance and drink, and sing,
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Reply #123 - October 07, 2011, 08:49 PM

Quote from: billy on October 07, 2011, 07:24 PM
Alas, no.

Please consider it, I often find your posts are eloquent and insightful.

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Reply #124 - October 07, 2011, 08:54 PM

Quote from: strangestdude on October 07, 2011, 08:49 PM
Please consider it, I often find your posts are eloquent and insightful.

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Reply #125 - October 07, 2011, 08:57 PM

I only just discovered how to save favourite videos in different playlists on youtube, never mind make videos myself!

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Reply #126 - October 07, 2011, 09:47 PM

Quote from: Gladfly on October 07, 2011, 08:41 PM
Its Hamza the Greek

You mean the Geek who didn't understand what Greeks did in the past..

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Reply #127 - October 07, 2011, 10:00 PM

Hamza Tortoise writes about that book of Stephen Hawking "The Grand Design" and talks about Stephen Hawking Delusion without thinking about his own ISLAMIC DELUSION and his head under the Arabian sand ,, let me put bit of excerpts from it..

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In the Professor’s new book, an extract of which appeared in the Times newspaper, it states that
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“Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing…spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the universe exists, why we exist.”

The Professor continues “It is not necessary to invoke God to light the blue touch paper and set the universe going.”

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From these excerpts alone it seems to me that the Professor is claiming that things can pop into being and that the universe spontaneously emerged from nothing. The Professor makes these conclusions as he seems to be holding an indeterministic view of physics. This means that he believes that there are many sub-atomic events that do not correspond with causality, because some physicists claim that sub-atomic particles behave unpredictably and spontaneously in the quantum vacuum all without any perceived cause!

This high school dropout who spent most of his time in gym talks about Quantum Vacuum, Quantum Physics, Quantum particles, Quantum nonsense with his Viral Islamic brain without knowing high school physics.

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However there are two main problems with this view:

1. The quantum vacuum is not nothing, so the claim that the universe came from nothing, because of the observations made at the quantum level, is misleading. The vacuum is actually something; it is a sea of fluctuating energy with a rich structure and obeys the laws of the universe. This is why many physicists are adopting a deterministic view of the observations made at the quantum level, for instance the David Bohm interpretation being one of them.

Stop pasting some one's work as if you own Islamic brain putting that out in to public. yes Allah is sitting in that quantum vacuum nothing in a sea of fluctuating energy with a rich structure guiding Prophet of Islam to get that gibberish Quran out of his mouth through Jibrīl

Go to high school hamzatzortzis

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Reply #128 - October 07, 2011, 10:08 PM

Quote from: TheRationalizer on October 03, 2011, 06:31 AM
I thought the Quran says that Allah doesn't accept death bed conversions?

Good point. I've heard this too. But then again, Mo tried to convert his uncle Abu Talib on his death-bed. Oh well... as is often the case with religion, take your pick.

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Reply #129 - October 07, 2011, 10:10 PM

Maybe it was only the "Faroon" who's conversion was not accepted.

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Reply #130 - October 08, 2011, 06:39 AM

Where does it say in the Quran that Allah doesn't accept death bed conversions?

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Reply #131 - October 08, 2011, 07:10 AM

The Pharoah's story mentioned, in which he accepts Allah as he is about to be engulfed in the Red Sea, only to have it rejected by Allah would heavily imply the lack of validity of death bed conversion.

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Reply #132 - October 09, 2011, 10:19 AM

Watch this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNv8HkthcDA

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Reply #133 - October 09, 2011, 11:19 AM

^^^This is extremely embarrassing to say the least!
But does anyone bother or even care for these people.

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Reply #134 - October 09, 2011, 11:35 AM

Quote from: Shahid Raza on October 09, 2011, 10:19 AM
Watch this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNv8HkthcDA

That is such a terrible thing to do., I have never seen a worse tube than that from any Muslim preacher., This Indian Muslim Zombie preacher is an heartless mindless fit for nothing fool who wasted time of millions of Muslim kids across the Indian subcontinent.

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Reply #135 - October 09, 2011, 11:42 AM

Quote from: Shahid Raza on October 09, 2011, 10:19 AM
Watch this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNv8HkthcDA

Such a heartless bastard. Sadly a trait that is uncomfortably common amongst muslims as the utter lack of compassion is ordained by the quran.

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Reply #136 - October 09, 2011, 12:55 PM

Quote from: Mr Sanity on October 09, 2011, 11:42 AM
Such a heartless bastard. Sadly a trait that is uncomfortably common amongst muslims as the utter lack of compassion is ordained by the quran.

Indeed!
But the big mystery is, why do people convert to this religion despite all this?
What does it say about the host culture[western] when people embrace something so alien to it without critique? Is this gullibility a sign of desperation? An expression of disgust with the status quo?
I mean why would someone, so willingly jump from the 'self proclaimed heaven on earth' to a 'designer hell' ?
I think it is high time people came down from their ivory towers and did some serious soul searching.
Madly oscillating between dehumanizing extremes people keep missing the golden mean.

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Reply #137 - October 09, 2011, 01:09 PM

Most fall for the dawahganda. If someone has a loose belief in a god without actually practising or reading about it, as is the case with the vast majority of european "christians", they are vulnerable to the cherry picked quote-mines that are presented as the sweet face of islam. They generally "revert" without doing any personal investigation or assuming that the violent parts are treated by muslims the same as the violent parts of the bible are by christians and ignored, and then get a rude awakening like this girl when it is too late.

Obviously the vast majority of muslims treat the quran the same as christians treat the bible, but the number that take it seriously in it's entirety are FAR greater in number.

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Reply #138 - October 09, 2011, 01:16 PM

But Christianity too could be just as or even more palatable as Islam when you do cherry picking!
What is it then that makes these people to seek religious solutions?

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Reply #139 - October 09, 2011, 01:26 PM

My father never prayed, was a drinking man, would turn of the Quran if it suddenly appeared on a tv station and or the radio, and grimace and say Ekkhsss! He died when I was a teenager.

After I became a practising muslim a few years later, I was certain he was burning in his tomb currently as it is 3azab el 2abr. But there is a hadeeth about 3 things that follow a man after his death...knowledge people use, Sadaqqa gareya (charity that is still used ), and good son who would pray for his forgivness...And I kept doing that so much in most prayers...When I went to 3omra in Meccah, there is a hadith that the first duaa(prayer) you make when you set eyes on the Kaaba is mostagab..it means the first thing you ask for you will get...I have planned weeks ahead and made sure when I set eyes on the great monolith that forgiveness for my fathers trangressions against God was that prayer, so he would rest in his tomb without pain...

My father was my hero and one of the greatest men I had ever met....Islam, 3zab el qabr ,and the evil monster tyrant God of Islam can suck my $##%^ now... for making me spend so many years thinking he was in pain....Evil desert cult of sick fucks!

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Reply #140 - October 09, 2011, 01:30 PM

I think it is because islam posits itself as the logical extension of christianity and confirming the previous "revelations" that many of these people get an interest. As for the why for religious solutions, the belief in a god is an alien concept to me, but the dawahgandists have many tools depending on their target, spirituality for the already religious, scientific "miracles" to ensnare the non-religious yet not educated, the facade of brotherhood/sisterhood or family values and many others. They are quick to laud any "revert" but never mention just how many leave after a short time when they find out how they have been misled.

Of course there is also the fact that many women fall for muslims and convert for them.. then find out the ugly truth... My cousin nearly fell for this.

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Reply #141 - October 09, 2011, 02:03 PM

Quote from: se7son on October 09, 2011, 01:26 PM
My father never prayed, was a drinking man, would turn of the Quran if it suddenly appeared on a tv station and or the radio, and grimace and say Ekkhsss! He died when I was a teenager.

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Rest well my lovely father...

My commiserations! That is how dehumanizing religions can be.
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Reply #142 - October 09, 2011, 02:11 PM

Quote from: hypocrucifier on October 09, 2011, 02:03 PM
Fuck all 'isms' of this world,they have brought nothing but misery and despair to humanity!

rAmen to that. (well, maybe not atheism )

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Reply #143 - October 09, 2011, 02:51 PM

Quote from: Mr Sanity on October 09, 2011, 02:11 PM
rAmen to that. (well, maybe not atheism )

Opt for the biggest ,the best and the only true 'ism' in the world :

HUMANISM

Very inclusive and free of conflicts ! Respects differences, values and treats them equally. No pompous ideology to tag you and make you a member of a gang!

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Reply #144 - October 09, 2011, 03:01 PM

Why do I always read this thread title as Hamza Tortoise?
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Reply #145 - October 09, 2011, 03:43 PM

I could never even entertain the idea that my non-muslim parents, for whom I feel so much love, gratitude and respect, should be destined to roast eternally in hell. The idea is abhorrent, vile and frankly ridiculous. This, amongst others, was one of the reasons why I was never able to convert sincerely.
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Reply #146 - October 09, 2011, 03:47 PM

Quote from: Sir Wankalot on October 09, 2011, 03:01 PM
Why do I always read this thread title as Hamza Tortoise?

Dyslexia and a dirty mind...

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Reply #147 - October 09, 2011, 04:13 PM

Quote from: Sir Wankalot on October 09, 2011, 03:01 PM
Why do I always read this thread title as Hamza Tortoise?

Please don't insult the poor tortoises by associating them with Hamza

_{I may also read his name as Hamza Tortoise}

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Reply #148 - October 09, 2011, 04:16 PM

Quote from: Shahid Raza on October 09, 2011, 10:19 AM
Watch this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNv8HkthcDA

Grotesque and morally perverted.

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Reply #149 - October 09, 2011, 04:27 PM

Just straight-up cruel. Reminds me of when my friend committed suicide in high school. Asshole preacher decides to spend the funeral preaching on the unforgiveable nature of the sin of suicide. People like that should just be straight-up shot.

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