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Reply #210 - December 21, 2011, 11:11 AM

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Is that what you're arguing with me about?

Have you somehow measured how "incensed" I am about each of these things, and nit-pickingly constructed a non-argument with your findings? I concede.

Err, this bit here -

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But for Adbur to then exploit his dying father and get a "shahadah" out of him when he is literally on his last breath is a sick, twisted, distubing thing to do.

If that's not you angry about it, then what is? I mean going over the top to describe it as "sick", "twisted" and "disturbing" is you being incensed, no? Put things in perspective will you..... that act was none of the adjectives that you described above.

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If my views of Islam weren't "emotionally clouding my judgment" as you say... I still wouldn't think it is right to exploit a dying person like that

Once again, there you go.... "exploit"! Some of the language you use is making you look like a drama queen. You sure know how to over-dramatise the situation.

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His father WAS a non-Muslim, but his posthumous right to self determination has been taken away by his son Abdur who is telling the world that his dad died as a Muslim.

And how on earth do you know that his father is heading to his grave unhappy about this? Were you there? Do you know him personally? If no, then shut the fuck up Sherlock because you're clearly talking out of ignorance about this matter.

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Anything else you'd like to discuss?

No, go away.
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Reply #211 - December 21, 2011, 11:39 AM

You're not the sharpest tool in the box are you?

If I describe something as "sick", "twisted" and "disturbing" then it doesn't necessarily follow that I am I am feeling "angry" and "incensed" about it.

My blood pressure has remained low and constant throughout this, I can assure you.

You're the one who claimed I'm feeling "angry" and "incensed"... and you somehow measured how "angry" and "incensed" I'm feeling... and then constructed a non-argument out of it.

If I see a person eating dog shit, I would think it was sick, disturbing and twisted, but I wouldn't be feeling "angry" and "incensed". Point being, these feelings don't necessary follow.

So tell me then, what/how else am I feeling right now?

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Reply #212 - December 21, 2011, 12:01 PM

Well, if you're not angry about it (clearly it touched a nerve though) , then you're certainly beeng a one big blar arse about it.

Not surprised you failed to address the rest of my last post, clearly accepted you talked a load of ignorant shite. Well done.
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Reply #213 - December 21, 2011, 12:02 PM

Quote from: Shahid Raza on December 21, 2011, 11:39 AM
You're not the sharpest tool in the box are you?

If I describe something as "sick", "twisted" and "disturbing" then it doesn't necessarily follow that I am I am feeling "angry" and "incensed" about it.

My blood pressure has remained low and constant throughout this, I can assure you.

You're the one who claimed I'm feeling "angry" and "incensed"... and you somehow measured how "angry" and "incensed" I'm feeling... and then constructed a non-argument out of it.

If I see a person eating dog shit, I would think it was sick, disturbing and twisted, but I wouldn't be feeling "angry" and "incensed". Point being, these feelings don't necessary follow.

So tell me then, what/how else am I feeling right now?

Like a right dipstick.
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Reply #214 - December 21, 2011, 12:02 PM

Stop getting personal.

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Reply #215 - December 21, 2011, 12:09 PM

Come on guys, let us not fight amongs our selves simply because of Abdul Raheem Green.
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Reply #216 - December 21, 2011, 12:14 PM

*Typing on my iphone*...

Gee, now I'm being lambasted because I "failed to address" the rest of your post... which I was in the middle of replying to... til my session on the library computer ran out.

Now shall I keep up with your bile, tapping away on my iPhone whist I go to Sainsburys to buy a sandwich? Or shall I wait til I get home on my laptop?

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Reply #217 - December 21, 2011, 12:19 PM

Look, at the end of the day, all I said is that I don't see the big deal about it. (The conversion, not the video uploading.) It's Shahid Raza who started getting unnecessarily all emotional about it, at times it was as if he is talking on behalf of Green Snr from beyond the grave. Using words such as "exploited", "sick", etc is a load of bullshit and only stems from his hate for Islam as opposed to objective thinking about this.

We don't know what Green Snr's state of mind was on his death bed, but some people are making it sound as if his son held a gun to his head or something and forced him to utter the shahada.
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Reply #218 - December 21, 2011, 12:20 PM

Quote from: Shahid Raza on December 21, 2011, 12:14 PM
*Typing on my iphone*...

Gee, now I'm being lambasted because I "failed to address" the rest of your post... which I was in the middle of replying to... til my session on the library computer ran out.

You could have replied in the same post, Sherlock. But I can see why that would be too difficult for you.
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Reply #219 - December 21, 2011, 12:24 PM

Quote from: truth_seeker on December 21, 2011, 12:09 PM
Come on guys, let us not fight amongs our selves simply because of Abdul Raheem Green.

truth_seeker .. no one is fighting in CEMB, they are all arguing and there is nothing wrong in it if there is bit of heckling here and there without throwing personal insults at those who disagree with each other.

What is the point of having the board with every one agreeing with every one?? Such board sucks and they will be as good as Ummah.com...

Well taking about that Green Saint.. This link of olweasel
Quote from: olweasel on December 20, 2011, 11:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsAVcJXvrCU

tells me everything .. Glasses on Face and glasses on Brain and and Burkha on common sense..

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Reply #220 - December 21, 2011, 12:31 PM

Quote from: The Demba on December 21, 2011, 12:20 PM
You could have replied in the same post, Sherlock. But I can see why that would be too difficult for you.

Every one is not as intelligent as you or as hot as you Demba.. indeed I am obsessed with you and fellow like you ..lol...

Demba, You are Wrong here absolutely wrong in Judging Prophet of Islam.. And that is a very good reason to be obsessed with fellows like you Demba..

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Reply #221 - December 21, 2011, 12:31 PM

Quote from: yeezevee on December 20, 2011, 01:12 PM
You must know that this converted white green man in Islamic world is perceived as an intellectual Islamic giant saint. And he preaches.. In a way he telling the world of converts use every possible way to convert your near and dear in to Islam.

+1

I think he's a sincere deluded fucking asshole for posting it on the internet as encouragement for dawah. It encourages muslims to spend the last few precious moments of their loved's existence relentlessly pursuing Dawah.

Other sincere muslims watching who have lost loved one's, will once again be reminded of their belief that their departed loved one's will be probably be tortured brutally and mercilessly for eternity. That's a terrible belief to instill and foster in someone who is grieving, or has a loved one on their deathbed.

He's obviously sincere, but I think he's a deluded asshole nonetheless.

An alternative to religion;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2nfXfTg92E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWNW-NXEudk
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Reply #222 - December 21, 2011, 12:34 PM

Quote from: strangestdude on December 21, 2011, 12:31 PM
+1

I think he's a sincere deluded fucking asshole for posting it on the internet as encouragement for dawah. It encourages muslims to spend the last few precious moments of their loved's existence relentlessly pursuing Dawah.

Other sincere muslims watching who have lost loved one's, will once again be reminded of their belief that their departed loved one's will be probably be tortured brutally and mercilessly for eternity. That's a terrible belief to instill and foster in someone who is grieving, or has a loved one on their deathbed.

He's obviously sincere, but I think he's a deluded asshole nonetheless.

strangestdude I agree with you every thing except those highlighted words.. ..Well I will not write them on the board about him but I would certainly tell him on his face with one on one discussion.. lol..

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Reply #223 - December 21, 2011, 06:00 PM

I see Shahid Raza, conveniently ignores my post which punches holes in his logic.

Left the forum: http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=22997
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Reply #224 - December 21, 2011, 06:05 PM

Quote from: The Demba on December 21, 2011, 12:01 PM
Well, if you're not angry about it (clearly it touched a nerve though)

I am angry about it. What was your point?

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Reply #225 - December 21, 2011, 06:44 PM

Read my dialogue with SR, then you'll get it, you time waster.
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Reply #226 - December 21, 2011, 06:54 PM

Quote from: The Demba on December 21, 2011, 06:44 PM
Read my dialogue with SR, then you'll get it, you time waster.

Demba is back in action.. glad to read you ,, Glad to read you., Yes you do have a point in that post for SR.. So you say to SR..
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Look, at the end of the day, all I said is that I don't see the big deal about it. (The conversion, not the video uploading.) It's Shahid Raza who started getting unnecessarily all emotional about it, at times it was as if he is talking on behalf of Green Snr from beyond the grave. Using words such as "exploited", "sick", etc is a load of bullshit and only stems from his hate for Islam as opposed to objective thinking about this.

We don't know what Green Snr's state of mind was on his death bed, but some people are making it sound as if his son held a gun to his head or something and forced him to utter the shahada.

That is a good point to note Demba. fascinating reply... Now for a sec forget Muslims...

Do you Love Islam?? and what part of Islam do you love and what part do you hate Demba??

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Reply #227 - December 21, 2011, 07:02 PM

Once again, I read your posts and think to myself... "what the fuck is guy typing about?". Are you OK up there? Any chance of posting posts that are... well.... just normal from now on?

Obviously I hate Islam. I realise that there is some good things in it, but this doesn't mean anything to me. I reckon even the BNP party do some good things in the community. (Or maybe not.)
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Reply #228 - December 21, 2011, 07:03 PM

Quote from: The Demba on December 21, 2011, 06:44 PM
Read my dialogue with SR, then you'll get it, you time waster.

Charming.

I did genuinely attempt to navigate your blundering, head-first, thick-as-pig-shit, nerd-testosterone tyrades, but couldn't find anything resembling an actual point.

Could you just breifly outline it please?

Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
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Reply #229 - December 21, 2011, 07:11 PM

Quote from: The Demba on December 21, 2011, 07:02 PM
Once again, I read your posts and think to myself... "what the fuck is guy typing about?". Are you OK up there? Any chance of posting posts that are... well.... just normal from now on?

I know I am up there... where? . I know I write quite bit of Fuck, but I am just trying to understand your point Demba. Well I was never normal guy.. normal Muslim.. Normal non-Muslim ..Normal Jack Ass or neither normal Zebra.. Have bit mercy on me Demba..

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Obviously I hate Islam. I realise that there is some good things in it, but this doesn't mean anything to me.

I reckon even the BNP party do some good things in the community. (Or maybe not.)

Forget BNP and DNP.. that is nothing to do with Green White Saint of Islam. So you hate Islam?? now keeping that in mind..

Is it a good thing for a converted Muslim to force Shahada on his/her parent who loves his kids never converted to Islam when he was in senses but now he is on death bed ..old.. worried about his son?? Is that good thing for a son to do that??

Where does that Green White Islamic saint gets that idea Demba??

I know I trouble you ..Just consider it as nut case Demba...

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Reply #230 - December 21, 2011, 07:16 PM

Quote from: Ishina on December 21, 2011, 07:03 PM
Charming.

I did genuinely attempt to navigate your blundering, head-first, thick-as-pig-shit, nerd-testosterone tyrades, but couldn't find anything resembling an actual point.

Could you just breifly outline it please?

If you're going to be a complete utter wanker about it, then you can go and set fire on yourself for all I care. I wouldn't even piss on you to be honest.
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Reply #231 - December 21, 2011, 07:18 PM

Quote from: yeezevee on December 21, 2011, 07:11 PM
I know I am up there... where? . I know I write quite bit of Fuck, but I am just trying to understand your point Demba. Well I was never normal guy.. normal Muslim.. Normal non-Muslim ..Normal Jack Ass or neither normal Zebra.. Have bit mercy on me Demba..
Forget BNP and DNP.. that is nothing to do with Green White Saint of Islam. So you hate Islam?? now keeping that in mind..

Is it a good thing for a converted Muslim to force Shahada on his/her parent who loves his kids never converted to Islam when he was in senses but now he is on death bed ..old.. worried about his son?? Is that good thing for a son to do that??

Where does that Green White Islamic saint gets that idea Demba??

I know I trouble you ..Just consider it as nut case Demba...

And how do you know it was forced? Where do you get all this none sense from? Jesus fucking wept.
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Reply #232 - December 21, 2011, 07:23 PM

Quote from: The Demba on December 21, 2011, 07:16 PM
If you're going to be a complete utter wanker about it, then you can go and set fire on yourself for all I care. I wouldn't even piss on you to be honest.

I know puberty is a confusing time for you, but could you at least attempt to answer the question?

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Reply #233 - December 21, 2011, 07:25 PM

Quote from: The Demba on December 21, 2011, 07:18 PM
And how do you know it was forced? Where do you get all this none sense from? Jesus fucking wept.

Well it is common sense., this green white saint is preaching to all converts to go to their parents and convert them in to Islam so they go to Jannah after their demise .. Clearly he was trying that on his parents .. His dad didn't do it until that day. Did you watch that video?? Let me put it back

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdNVfEpfOfk

So that tells a lot about Jesus fucking wept Green white Saint Demba.. I am glad you are trying your best to understand that..

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Reply #234 - December 21, 2011, 07:31 PM

Quote from: Ishina on December 21, 2011, 07:23 PM
I know puberty is a confusing time for you, but could you at least attempt to answer the question?

OK, so you're angry.... so what?
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Reply #235 - December 21, 2011, 07:36 PM

Quote from: yeezevee on December 21, 2011, 07:25 PM
Well it is common sense., this green white saint is preaching to all converts to go to their parents and convert them in to Islam so they go to Jannah after their demise .. Clearly he was trying that on his parents .. His dad didn't do it until that day. Did you watch that video?? Let me put it back

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdNVfEpfOfk

So that tells a lot about Jesus fucking wept Green white Saint Demba.. I am glad you are trying your best to understand that..

Not because that he actually cares for his father?

Get lost man, even when you try to sound normal, you come across as silly and clueless.
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Reply #236 - December 21, 2011, 07:46 PM

Quote from: The Demba on December 21, 2011, 07:31 PM
OK, so you're angry.... so what?

It seemed you were on the brink of making a point about those who felt a measure of anger when they see the exploitation of the dying, but you lost your momentum when Shahid put you straight.

It seems I was wrong. You didn't actually have a point to begin with.

Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
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Reply #237 - December 21, 2011, 07:51 PM

Quote from: The Demba on December 21, 2011, 07:36 PM
Not because that he actually cares for his father?

Get lost man, even when you try to sound normal, you come across as silly and clueless.

I know.. I am man.. not boy neither a gay off course I am silly and clueless Demba..

So your point is that fellow the green white Islamic saint cares about his father so he forces that Shahada on his dad who is on death bed.,

So you think, the idea of beyond that Green white Muslim son asking his dad to take Shahada on his death bed is because he is thinking sincerely about his father going to Jannah after his death?/

Could it also be a good propaganda for this green white Islamic convert to go and say around Islamic world and get bit more fame and money around Islamic nations??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x1Hp-0D9jw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQkEOLv0QOk

There he is preaching in Pakistan...

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Reply #238 - December 21, 2011, 07:53 PM

Quote from: The Demba on December 21, 2011, 07:16 PM
If you're going to be a complete utter wanker about it, then you can go and set fire on yourself for all I care. I wouldn't even piss on you to be honest.

Smite 1 for The Demba.

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Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
Reply #239 - December 21, 2011, 08:17 PM

holy shit guys, can you please not fight with each other just because of Abdul Raheem Green? It's bad enough that Ratty and Radwan are gone.
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