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 Topic: Hello World, Ex-muslim from England

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  • Hello World, Ex-muslim from England
     OP - April 20, 2011, 05:04 PM

    Hello everyone, I've been kind of a lurker and I've been meaning to take a more active role. You might be able to tell already but my name is Qasim,  I'm currently 16 and I guess I've been a Muslim my whole life. This post was going to be really long but I guess I can save it for another time Tongue

    I live in a town which is the namesake of a certain sport, popular in six nations  whistling2 and grew up with a strict religious upbringing. I was the golden child, youngest of three, as I (thought I) knew the most about the Quran, hadith and the sirah. My parents decided to be more strict with me than my siblings as they turned out rather rebellious. I always had a strong interest in science and felt strongly that Science was the best thing to happen to mankind (after Islam) and I tried promote good scientific awareness at school and at home. I also totally believed science and Islam was the same. For a long period of my life I was extremely indoctrinated by mosques, madrassahs and lectures (another complete post Tongue ) somehow I was both a moderate and fundamentalist and became a Grade A apologist.

    I always had doubts about Islam for as long as I can remember but the fear of hell was too great for me to pursue them, many times did I read something online or learned something at school that contradicted my faith but I just tried to ignore it and thought there must be some sort of context. I would watch videos debunking people such as VenomFangX and everyone else and loads o episodes of The Atheist Experience. In all the videos I always agreed with the atheist but still didn't scrutinize my own beliefs. Then finally through a trail of videos and links stemming from 'Richard Dawkins reads his hate mail' (so I could laugh at him) I ended up unable to deny evolution and other scientific discrepancies. However it wasn't just science that made me stop believing but also the historical and moral arguments that show how artificial and horrible Islam is. For about a week I was a Quran-aloner then I realised that was crap too and had my first bacon cheeseburger on my 16th birthday.

    So now I am an atheist, one of the best decisions I've ever made. It feels like I was one all along but it's only been a few months. I look forward to hearing more from you all.

    P.S Thank you CEMB for your videos on YouTube that helped me out and I am especially grateful and thankful to TheRationalizer, TheIslamMiracle and others for all of your videos that helped me escape this crappy religion. Lol this post was still longer than I expected  thnkyu
  • Re: Hello World, Ex-muslim from England
     Reply #1 - April 20, 2011, 05:19 PM

    welcome, have a parrot  parrot
  • Re: Hello World, Ex-muslim from England
     Reply #2 - April 20, 2011, 05:25 PM

    Welcome Qasim  Smiley
  • Re: Hello World, Ex-muslim from England
     Reply #3 - April 20, 2011, 06:24 PM

    welcome brotha !! know any muslim apostates in your life ?

    Nothing can be more contrary to religion and the clergy than reason and common sense. - Voltaire
  • Re: Hello World, Ex-muslim from England
     Reply #4 - April 20, 2011, 06:27 PM

    Hiya thanks everyone.  grin12
    Unfortunately no canex just on the internet.
  • Re: Hello World, Ex-muslim from England
     Reply #5 - April 20, 2011, 06:28 PM

    stay strong bro! most of dont know any apostates in real life either.

    Nothing can be more contrary to religion and the clergy than reason and common sense. - Voltaire
  • Re: Hello World, Ex-muslim from England
     Reply #6 - April 20, 2011, 06:48 PM

    bunny signwelcome parrot

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  • Re: Hello World, Ex-muslim from England
     Reply #7 - April 20, 2011, 06:49 PM

    welcome aboard mate!!! far away hug

    "There aint no devil, it's just God when he's drunk"- Tom Waits
  • Re: Hello World, Ex-muslim from England
     Reply #8 - April 20, 2011, 07:00 PM

    Wow im quite impressed with your story, at such a young age you are a rational minded person.

    Welcome Smiley

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    "No theory,No ready made system,no book that has ever been written to save the world. i cleave to no system.."-Bakunin
  • Re: Hello World, Ex-muslim from England
     Reply #9 - April 20, 2011, 07:03 PM

    Hi mate. You sound very mature for a sixteen year old. At this rate, you'll be a wise old man by the time you're 21!

    Have you told any of your family or muslim friends about your lack of faith? If so, how did that go?

    I see you specifically thanked the Rationaliser... Islame, Hassan and Mighty Cats will be fuming that they weren't the first to capture your soul...

    Hi
  • Re: Hello World, Ex-muslim from England
     Reply #10 - April 20, 2011, 07:28 PM

    Welcome! bunny

    It's very refreshing to read young people "because i might be old now Huh?" Sound so smart and level headed.

    Look forward to reading your future posts.

    "Tomorrow is the today you were worried about yesterday" Unknown
  • Re: Hello World, Ex-muslim from England
     Reply #11 - April 20, 2011, 07:50 PM

    Haha thanks everyone. I didn't know that IsLame (cool name) wrote that letter I saw it on /r/exmuslim That was also really helpful as it was the place to go for nearly all of the arguments. a
    And Hassan and Mighty Cats. Thank you and everyone here on CEMB  thnkyu

    I don't intend to tell my parents or family any time soon. The only reason they haven't kicked out my brother is because he says he's a Muslim. And my mum has pinned all her hopes on me to make a scientific discovery for Islam (by becoming a GP) to stop the knowledge monopolization of the Jews -_- . I could never tell her I left Islam. Also the community is quite close knit here so if one person knows everyone knows. And the mosque is known not treat apostates too kindly  wacko , so it's easier if I don't tell anyone... for now   Tongue
  • Re: Hello World, Ex-muslim from England
     Reply #12 - April 20, 2011, 08:06 PM

    I am happy you are cured from the Disease of Ambrahmic Religionous doctrine.

    What are your Political Views?

    Welcome from a fellow Ex-Muslim
  • Re: Hello World, Ex-muslim from England
     Reply #13 - April 20, 2011, 08:13 PM

    Hmm my political views. Well I guess I'm left of centre (surprise surprise Tongue ), you?
  • Re: Hello World, Ex-muslim from England
     Reply #14 - April 20, 2011, 08:20 PM


    I don't intend to tell my parents or family any time soon. The only reason they haven't kicked out my brother is because he says he's a Muslim. And my mum has pinned all her hopes on me to make a scientific discovery for Islam (by becoming a GP) to stop the knowledge monopolization of the Jews -_- . I could never tell her I left Islam. Also the community is quite close knit here so if one person knows everyone knows. And the mosque is known not treat apostates too kindly  wacko , so it's easier if I don't tell anyone... for now   Tongue


    That's very wise, IMO;  at your age, you can do without the turmoil and the tears and the threats and the emotional blackmail, and all the other horrifying drama that inevitably comes with announcing your lack of faith.

    Brilliant letter it is; I'm sure you've made Islame's day there by mentioning it.

    Hi
  • Re: Hello World, Ex-muslim from England
     Reply #15 - April 20, 2011, 08:26 PM

    haha yea. I always told myself if I do, I will tell them when I'm either self-sufficient or they're getting serious about getting me married Tongue .
    After reading it I told my self if/when I do tell them, I will hand out photocopies of that letter  grin12
  • Re: Hello World, Ex-muslim from England
     Reply #16 - April 20, 2011, 09:14 PM

    bunny signwelcome parrot


    Now why did you have to go from your standard greeting, ateapotist?  Smiley
    I'll do it for you: Welcome to the forum Qasim!  victory

    I'm glad to hear you've come to "the dark side", especially after such a devout life.
    It's really funny you were actually out to laugh at Dawkins, but this marked your turning point.
    There is this something about atheism, it...it just makes so much sense!

    Anyway, enjoy your stay!

    EDIT: just noticed I misread your post about Dawkins, but meh, you catch my drift Smiley

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  • Re: Hello World, Ex-muslim from England
     Reply #17 - April 20, 2011, 09:19 PM

    ^^  lol

    You forgot the comma after the word 'forum'.  Tongue

    "Many people would sooner die than think; In fact, they do so." -- Bertrand Russell

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  • Re: Hello World, Ex-muslim from England
     Reply #18 - April 20, 2011, 09:30 PM

     signwelcome Welcome Qasim, I like your name  Smiley

    btw what's this letter everyone's talking about?
  • Re: Hello World, Ex-muslim from England
     Reply #19 - April 20, 2011, 09:35 PM

    Hi, hah thank you.
    It's a letter by IsLame to his religous cousin. Here is his letter http://www.scribd.com/doc/19390943/1/Introduction-Letter-To-My-Religious-Cousin
    It concisely and easily and explains all the arguments that lead him to leave Islam and helped me leave Islam too it's really great.
  • Re: Hello World, Ex-muslim from England
     Reply #20 - April 20, 2011, 09:38 PM


    I don't intend to tell my parents or family any time soon. The only reason they haven't kicked out my brother is because he says he's a Muslim. And my mum has pinned all her hopes on me to make a scientific discovery for Islam (by becoming a GP) to stop the knowledge monopolization of the Jews -_- . I could never tell her I left Islam. Also the community is quite close knit here so if one person knows everyone knows. And the mosque is known not treat apostates too kindly  wacko , so it's easier if I don't tell anyone... for now   Tongue

    Good to hear you Qasim and welcome to CEMB.,     I hope you will fulfill your Mom's dream and you don't need to tell any one that you left Islam. Clearly your Mom is well educated .. show her some  Sam Harris Videos along with Hassan's  magic science from You tube..    And you should tell her THESE GUYS COMPLETELY OUT OF THEIR MINDS..

    with best wishes
    yeezevee

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
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