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  • 100,000 Britons convert to Islam in past decade
     OP - May 06, 2011, 08:05 AM

         Hi, I read in Arabic newspaper that one hundred thousand Britons has converted to Islam in the last decade.
    So I want to know:
    1- Is Islam really the fastest growing religion in the U.K or in the world?
    2- what are the religions that people convert from?
    3 - Are there any Atheists or Agnostics who converted to Islam?
    4- we always hear about people who convert to Islam, but rarely hear of who left Islam after they converted to, are there any Statistics about the percentage of Muslims who leave Islam after conversion?  
    Thanks.
  • Re: 100,000 Britons convert to Islam in past decade
     Reply #1 - May 06, 2011, 08:11 AM

         Hi, I read in Arabic newspaper that one hundred thousand Britons has converted to Islam in the last decade.
    So I want to know:
    1- Is Islam really the fastest growing religion in the U.K or in the world?

    Muslims like to claim it is. There doesn't appear to be much evidence for it though.

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    2- what are the religions that people convert from?

    Not sure about all of them. Some Christians, I think some Jews.

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    3 - Are there any Atheists or Agnostics who converted to Islam?

    Probably a few.

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    4- we always hear about people who convert to Islam, but rarely hear of who left Islam after they converted to, are there any statics about the percentage of Muslims who leave Islam after conversion? 
    Thanks.

    Yup. There was actually a study done by a Muslim group in the US in the last couple of years. they found that around 75% of converts left Islam within a few years.

    Of course, Muslims don't mention this when claiming Islam is the fastest growing religion. They only mention conversions. Wink

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  • Re: 100,000 Britons convert to Islam in past decade
     Reply #2 - May 06, 2011, 08:31 AM

        Hi, I read in Arabic newspaper that one hundred thousand Britons has converted to Islam in the last decade.
    So I want to know:
    1- Is Islam really the fastest growing religion in the U.K or in the world?
    2- what are the religions that people convert from?
    3 - Are there any Atheists or Agnostics who converted to Islam?
    4- we always hear about people who convert to Islam, but rarely hear of who left Islam after they converted to, are there any Statistics about the percentage of Muslims who leave Islam after conversion?  
    Thanks.

    give a link to such number game CEO  and welcome to CEMB

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1343954/100-000-Islam-converts-living-UK-White-women-keen-embrace-Muslim-faith.html










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    Any scoundrel who objects for that anywhere in the world should be PUT in UN  jail....   no..no. Guantanamo Bay detention camp

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  • Re: 100,000 Britons convert to Islam in past decade
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  • Re: 100,000 Britons convert to Islam in past decade
     Reply #4 - May 06, 2011, 09:03 AM


    I thought it was 100,000 a week that were converting to Islam  Huh?

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  • Re: 100,000 Britons convert to Islam in past decade
     Reply #5 - May 06, 2011, 09:11 AM

    I thought it was 100,000 a week that were converting to Islam  Huh?

    that is the number you get in Islamic countries....

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: 100,000 Britons convert to Islam in past decade
     Reply #6 - May 06, 2011, 09:19 AM

    Thanks my friends, your responds came faster than I imagine.  Smiley
  • Re: 100,000 Britons convert to Islam in past decade
     Reply #7 - May 06, 2011, 09:23 AM

    There was actually a study done by a Muslim group in the US in the last couple of years. they found that around 75% of converts left Islam within a few years.

     It sounds reasonable.
    If you can provide me the link directly please.
    Thanks.
  • Re: 100,000 Britons convert to Islam in past decade
     Reply #8 - May 06, 2011, 09:31 AM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8EC8-aVlrE

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdVnILalpeo

    This  stupid number game can easily be neglected ., the moment a UN rule is made that any one can leave or join any religion at any time,

    Those countries and those people who question that rule should be thrown out of UN..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: 100,000 Britons convert to Islam in past decade
     Reply #9 - May 06, 2011, 02:47 PM

    ^
    ' She met her boyfriend, Zahid, at university, and converted to Islam at the age of 19.'

    A young western woman becoming Muslim after taking up with a Muslim male? How unusual!

    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: 100,000 Britons convert to Islam in past decade
     Reply #10 - May 06, 2011, 02:48 PM

    Some groups goes for quantity and not quality. Eh. parrot

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  • Re: 100,000 Britons convert to Islam in past decade
     Reply #11 - May 06, 2011, 03:21 PM

    Just opinions and things I've observed, as well as a minor rant. You may correct me if I'm wrong

    Quote
    1- Is Islam really the fastest growing religion in the U.K or in the world?



    That's actually not really that much once you think about it. Also Islam blatantly denies those who leave. I'm confident there are apostates of Islam still living as though they were Muslim (like some members of this forum). The numbers are twisted due to the strong bias and strict Islamic laws that prevent someone as so much as questioning Islam. I myself thought Islam was pretty cool with the whole modesty thing as girl. But instead of talking to an imam or other Muslims I tried reading the Qu'ran myself FIRST. It was so mind-numbing and so much bullshit I couldn't imagine that Islam was placed on the same level as Christianity and Judaism. Although I can see why someone can be easily lured by the whole community friendliness and sugar-coated interpretations.

    Islam seems really enticing at first but there are a number of stories of converts who leave usually within 5 years. Muslims like to play up their juicy sweet fantasies of white converts while ignoring the youths who are wisening up and leaving Islam to contribute to the sciences and the rest of the developing world.

    Also what exactly is a definition of a 'Muslim' there are so many Muslims who don't even follow all the laws, even read the Qur'an in its entirety? Just like the hypocrites of every other religion they only cry God what shit happens and then sin when no one is looking.

    So to sum up my answer. I think it's a load of bullshit because there is no number on those who actual leave to balance out that argument. Islam is a fad because its in the news all the time and people are curious to its exotic culture. After a few years its going to die out like a bad fashion statement or a drug that should be illegal. Hey let's be Muslim cause everyone else is doing it. Roll Eyes

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    2- what are the religions that people convert from?


    This is what I've heard but don't my word for it.

    Christians seem attracted to Islam because they see it as more consistent with its laws. Where Christianity has split into so many different sects with so many different interpretations and lazy religious followers.

    Women- Seem to think its a good idea for the whole modesty thing, forgetting that modesty in Islam is equivalent to "Silence woman! Stay in that kitchen and make babies" shrug*

    Usually for love or marriage. Many of these converts don't just stroll on in alone. They are more than likely have some Muslim interest they wish to please. -_-; As in in Islam you can't really get married to someone who does embrace the faith. This usually ends pretty badly in most cases.

    Everyone else was probably athetist or agnostic looking for some meaning to life and Islam has a concrete idea of what you should do, how you should live your life and strong unchanging claims made in the Qu'ran. On top of that you can't deny that their is a strong sense of community.

     

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    3 - Are there any Atheists or Agnostics who converted to Islam?



    Like I mentions. People going down bad paths in their life looking for meaning. it happens, once we start having doubts or realizing our death is imminent and we want answers now.

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    4- we always hear about people who convert to Islam, but rarely hear of who left Islam after they converted to, are there any Statistics about the percentage of Muslims who leave Islam after conversion?  


    I doubt there will ever be a concrete statistic as leaving Islam is still a  very controversy thing and many apostates have and still pay for that with their life. Even in the most moderate of communities it seems as though, the thought of being disowned or shunned by one's own family is equally terrifying. And once a Muslim even so much as thinks as leaving Islam, there is a squad of Imams, scholars etc are on standby to do whatever it takes to feed them more bullshit *cough* I mean answer their questions.


    MOST IMPORTANTLY. Islam likes throwing out these huge numbers to mislead people without backing it up by comparing it with other faiths or people who leave. Then again because these religious idiots have no real concept of how science works, they would never give us some real evidence to back up their claim. (Simple things we usual learn in grade school for how to do accurate unbiased research. You need to get info from all angles)

    I'd like to see if anyone knows some info, some statistics of religions of the world in terms of converts or leaving.

    P.S I base my opinions by researching both pro-Islamic sites and other websites. if you sompare the two, Islam's claim doesn't seem to hold much water.

    ***~Church is where bad people go to hide~***
  • Re: 100,000 Britons convert to Islam in past decade
     Reply #12 - May 06, 2011, 04:33 PM

    ^
    ' She met her boyfriend, Zahid, at university, and converted to Islam at the age of 19.'

    A young western woman becoming Muslim after taking up with a Muslim male? How unusual!


    If he was a "real" Muslim,he should'nt have had a girlfriend in the first place Huh?
  • Re: 100,000 Britons convert to Islam in past decade
     Reply #13 - May 06, 2011, 04:59 PM



    When each and every member of a society is 'broken' the society ends up by being broken! This is a typical case of avoiding responsibility for your actions.The fault is not mine,it's the society's fault! I am forced to wear tight and revealing clothing because sob! sob! society expects me to! I am forced to sleep with as many people as possible because that is the done thing ,I have got to get drunk silly because that's cool!

    But you pathetic descendant of the apes,what kind of brain did you get at birth?
    You badly need to develop your personality,but that needs a fully functional brain that's capable of clear thinking! A totally fucked up religion is going to drag you deeper and deeper into the pit.

    " I would go out and get drunk with friends,wear tight and revealing clothing,date boys, blah,blah,blah,..........."

    Who asked you to indulge in all these things?--definitely not your MOM [unless she too is sick like you!].
    But the funny thing is if your mommy dearest had forbidden you to indulge in those things, you now decry so self righteously, you would have yelled blue murder about your beloved freedom[your birth right!] being taken away from you[never mind the fact that you don't deserve /are capable of handling it in the first place],but you are sooooooooo happy now with your autonomy brutally raped and feel so holy!



    The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
                                   Thomas Paine

    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored !- Aldous Huxley
  • Re: 100,000 Britons convert to Islam in past decade
     Reply #14 - May 06, 2011, 05:01 PM

    If he was a "real" Muslim,he should'nt have had a girlfriend in the first place Huh?


    In the world of make believe and bizarre fantasies everything goes my friend!



    The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
                                   Thomas Paine

    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored !- Aldous Huxley
  • Re: 100,000 Britons convert to Islam in past decade
     Reply #15 - May 06, 2011, 05:53 PM

    (Clicky for piccy!)

    When each and every member of a society is 'broken' the society ends up by being broken! This is a typical case of avoiding responsibility for your actions.The fault is not mine,it's the society's fault! I am forced to wear tight and revealing clothing because sob! sob! society expects me to! I am forced to sleep with as many people as possible because that is the done thing ,I have got to get drunk silly because that's cool!

    But you pathetic descendant of the apes,what kind of brain did you get at birth?
    You badly need to develop your personality,but that needs a fully functional brain that's capable of clear thinking! A totally fucked up religion is going to drag you deeper and deeper into the pit.

    " I would go out and get drunk with friends,wear tight and revealing clothing,date boys, blah,blah,blah,..........."

    Who asked you to indulge in all these things?--definitely not your MOM [unless she too is sick like you!].
    But the funny thing is if your mommy dearest had forbidden you to indulge in those things, you now decry so self righteously, you would have yelled blue murder about your beloved freedom[your birth right!] being taken away from you[never mind the fact that you don't deserve /are capable of handling it in the first place],but you are sooooooooo happy now with your autonomy brutally raped and feel so holy!



    The whole point is that Islam prosletyses by insulting, demonising, and reductively hating on the culture (or religion) of the target of the dawah. So in, say, Thailand, the Muslim convert will berate the impurity of Thai culture, or the Buddhist religion, escape from which has liberated them. This inculcates self loathing in the convert.

    Reducing British society to this demonised reduction, out of which the convert must swim away from to 'purity', is what dawah is all about.

    Islam is a year zero religion, an imperialistic culture.


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: 100,000 Britons convert to Islam in past decade
     Reply #16 - May 06, 2011, 06:38 PM

    WOW ... All these answers, and I told myself it seems there is no one will respond.
     thnkyu
  • Re: 100,000 Britons convert to Islam in past decade
     Reply #17 - May 06, 2011, 06:51 PM

    I thought it was 100,000 a week that were converting to Islam  Huh?


    No you are wrong! It's 10,00,000 every second! It's impossible to resist this lovely,peaceful religion,with its own brand of logic!



    The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
                                   Thomas Paine

    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored !- Aldous Huxley
  • Re: 100,000 Britons convert to Islam in past decade
     Reply #18 - May 06, 2011, 08:31 PM

    Who cares how many?  It's just some stupid godforsaken religion after all.  Cheesy

    "The greatest general is not the one who can take the most cities or spill the most blood. The greatest general is the one who can take Heaven and Earth without waging the battle." ~ Sun Tzu

  • Re: 100,000 Britons convert to Islam in past decade
     Reply #19 - May 07, 2011, 09:50 AM

    If he was a "real" Muslim,he should'nt have had a girlfriend in the first place Huh?


    Was he was banging her out of wedlock and simply for the hell of it?  Then he would indeed have been failing to "submit" to Allah. If he WAS having sex with her perhaps he convinced himself that she was some kind of "right hand possession" according to the holy laws of jihad and therefore halal. Maybe he got into having sex with her her and SUBSEQUENTLY got all religious and persuaded her to become a Muslim in an effort to save himself from an eternal roasting. Another scenario is that he actively seeks out non-Muslim women for the very purpose of inveigling them into Islam - in which case I reckon Allah would regard the end justifies whatever means are resorted to for its attainment.

    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: 100,000 Britons convert to Islam in past decade
     Reply #20 - May 07, 2011, 12:39 PM

    Ironically, it usually takes a haram liaison with a Muslim man to introduce non-Muslim women to Islam.

    (that is irony isn't it?  Huh?)

    .
  • Re: 100,000 Britons convert to Islam in past decade
     Reply #21 - May 07, 2011, 01:09 PM

    Ironically, it usually takes a haram liaison with a Muslim man to introduce non-Muslim women to Islam.

    (that is irony isn't it?  Huh?)


    Indeed! But in a way very funny  a 'haramzadhee' entering a religion obsessively involved in declaring anything and everything haram.
    Very neat! drink and fuck to your heart's content then suddenly start wearing a burkha and let the world know of your greatest discovery of the 21st century,cursing the culture that nurtured you, right,left, centre.
    The stench of blatant hypocrisy can be very overwhelming!



    The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
                                   Thomas Paine

    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored !- Aldous Huxley
  • Re: 100,000 Britons convert to Islam in past decade
     Reply #22 - May 07, 2011, 01:24 PM

    Was he was banging her out of wedlock and simply for the hell of it?  Then he would indeed have been failing to "submit" to Allah. If he WAS having sex with her perhaps he convinced himself that she was some kind of "right hand possession" according to the holy laws of jihad and therefore halal. Maybe he got into having sex with her her and SUBSEQUENTLY got all religious and persuaded her to become a Muslim in an effort to save himself from an eternal roasting. Another scenario is that he actively seeks out non-Muslim women for the very purpose of inveigling them into Islam - in which case I reckon Allah would regard the end justifies whatever means are resorted to for its attainment.


    One totally lost hypocrite deserves another.But Allah forbid if the other hypocrite is evil,then she will be permanently entangled in the web of self deceit.



    The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
                                   Thomas Paine

    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored !- Aldous Huxley
  • Re: 100,000 Britons convert to Islam in past decade
     Reply #23 - May 07, 2011, 03:05 PM

    Why does it bother other people so much what fairy-tale, make-believe idiotic notions are inside someone else's head?  wacko

    "The greatest general is not the one who can take the most cities or spill the most blood. The greatest general is the one who can take Heaven and Earth without waging the battle." ~ Sun Tzu

  • Re: 100,000 Britons convert to Islam in past decade
     Reply #24 - May 07, 2011, 07:17 PM

    society expectations, clothes, dating, drinking and going out seem to be a reoccurring themes and reasons for conversion on blogs of young female converts to islam from the west.

    i really fail to understand it. as hypocrucifier said, it is available to you, you can go out, get wasted but NOBODY drags you to the bloody pub/bar every friday and saturday night and pours drink after drink into you! and of course there is no "fashion police" checking whether skirt is short enough or cleavage deep enough.
    have people stopped thinking for themselves??

    I think a lot of us were brought here by google. Verily google guides whom it wills!

  • Re: 100,000 Britons convert to Islam in past decade
     Reply #25 - May 07, 2011, 07:28 PM

    Quote
    have people stopped thinking for themselves??


    It is that wonderful, perfect phrase - DAWAGANDA.

    Purposefully disingenuous reductive demonisation of the non Islamic culture in which Islam seeks to assert itself to create a sense of purifying mission, rendering non Muslims and non Muslim culture as impure, and to inculcate a sense of self loathing in the converts.


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: 100,000 Britons convert to Islam in past decade
     Reply #26 - May 07, 2011, 07:46 PM

    have people stopped thinking for themselves??

    That is precisely their problem.  They are unable to think for themselves.  When left to their own accord then indulge in sex, drugs, too much alcohol, showing their cleavage and whatever else...

    They need an iron fist, and they find that in Islam.

    .
  • Re: 100,000 Britons convert to Islam in past decade
     Reply #27 - May 07, 2011, 08:18 PM


    society expectations, clothes, dating, drinking and going out seem to be a reoccurring themes and reasons for conversion on blogs of young female converts to islam from the west.

    i really fail to understand it. as hypocrucifier said, it is available to you, you can go out, get wasted but NOBODY drags you to the bloody pub/bar every friday and saturday night and pours drink after drink into you! and of course there is no "fashion police" checking whether skirt is short enough or cleavage deep enough.
    have people stopped thinking for themselves??



    No clarap, they go out on the razz and have a jolly good time of it, enjoying every minute of it as it happens. No more, no less.  Roll Eyes

    It's only later when they've had enough of all the partying etc. they want something else to occupy themselves with, some choose a crazy religion. Let 'em get on with it I say, they'll come to their senses eventually as they did over their boozy wasted lifestyles if that's what you wanna call it.  Cheesy

    "The greatest general is not the one who can take the most cities or spill the most blood. The greatest general is the one who can take Heaven and Earth without waging the battle." ~ Sun Tzu

  • Re: 100,000 Britons convert to Islam in past decade
     Reply #28 - May 07, 2011, 09:33 PM

    lol Maya Smiley sure, let them do it. it's a shame only that their children will be indoctrinated into it as well.

    billy - well said. i think that's what creates us vs. them mentality

    it just makes me wonder that people, women in particular it seems, need such religion to tell them that they DON'T HAVE TO leave the house half-naked, get drunk and have numerous one night stands. oddly, they can't come to such conclusion on their own and pursue their idea of life.
    for some reason i get the impression that those converts tend to be immature and lacking self-confidence in how they want to live their lives so they choose islam which disguises it as piety. problem solved.

    I think a lot of us were brought here by google. Verily google guides whom it wills!

  • Re: 100,000 Britons convert to Islam in past decade
     Reply #29 - May 07, 2011, 09:44 PM

    No clarap, they go out on the razz and have a jolly good time of it, enjoying every minute of it as it happens. No more, no less.  Roll Eyes

    It's only later when they've had enough of all the partying etc. they want something else to occupy themselves with, some choose a crazy religion. Let 'em get on with it I say, they'll come to their senses eventually as they did over their boozy wasted lifestyles if that's what you wanna call it.  Cheesy



    But for most of them, they weren't even living that life. Its just a standard piece of propaganda they spout off, because conversion demands demonisation and distancing.


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

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