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 Topic: Is having casual sex or marrying your cousins harmful?

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  • Re: Is having casual sex or marrying your cousins harmful?
     Reply #30 - August 11, 2011, 07:34 PM

     Cheesy Cheesy

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  • Re: Is having casual sex or marrying your cousins harmful?
     Reply #31 - August 11, 2011, 09:04 PM

    Well you get out yer weiner n i think u stick it in her woohoo. And you know... just do the pumpjack.


     Cheesy

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    how fuck works without shit??


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  • Re: Is having casual sex or marrying your cousins harmful?
     Reply #32 - August 11, 2011, 09:14 PM

    cousin marriage I think gets too out of hand when it happens in every generation for generations. A one time thing doesn't seem to do harm.

    Casual sex is awesome.


    Nail on the head!  Afro

    Religion is organized superstition
  • Re: Is having casual sex or marrying your cousins harmful?
     Reply #33 - August 12, 2011, 04:46 AM

    if my cousin is hot i will marry her

    fuck children




    [13:36] <Fimbles> anything above 7 inches
    [13:37] <Fimbles> is wacko
    [13:37] <Fimbles> see
    [13:37] <Fimbles> you think i'd enjoy anything above 7 inches up my arse?
  • Re: Is having casual sex or marrying your cousins harmful?
     Reply #34 - August 12, 2011, 04:51 AM

    fuck children


    That's wrong. Just wrong.

    Formerly known as Iblis
  • Re: Is having casual sex or marrying your cousins harmful?
     Reply #35 - August 12, 2011, 04:56 AM

    what if a child grows up to become another iblis...

    tell me how would I have benfited the world by doing that !

    tell me you  monstrous murderer  !!!!! :"(

    [13:36] <Fimbles> anything above 7 inches
    [13:37] <Fimbles> is wacko
    [13:37] <Fimbles> see
    [13:37] <Fimbles> you think i'd enjoy anything above 7 inches up my arse?
  • Re: Is having casual sex or marrying your cousins harmful?
     Reply #36 - August 12, 2011, 05:44 AM

    But what does that have to do with you wanting to "fuck children".  grin12

    Formerly known as Iblis
  • Re: Is having casual sex or marrying your cousins harmful?
     Reply #37 - August 13, 2011, 03:54 AM

    hey man that is wrong Cry

    [13:36] <Fimbles> anything above 7 inches
    [13:37] <Fimbles> is wacko
    [13:37] <Fimbles> see
    [13:37] <Fimbles> you think i'd enjoy anything above 7 inches up my arse?
  • Re: Is having casual sex or marrying your cousins harmful?
     Reply #38 - August 22, 2011, 07:58 PM

    I did research on this and most Islamic websites say nothing is wrong with it and that most of the children are born healthy. The effects of having children with blood relatives sometimes aren't apparent till  further down the genetic  line.  Now when it comes to love, love is love and it shouldn't really be banned.


    Causal sex is not a big deal just don't end up with illegitimate children without a father. That's harmful socially.

    ***~Church is where bad people go to hide~***
  • Re: Is having casual sex or marrying your cousins harmful?
     Reply #39 - August 23, 2011, 08:12 PM

    This thread turns me on.

    Formerly known as Iblis
  • Re: Is having casual sex or marrying your cousins harmful?
     Reply #40 - August 23, 2011, 08:45 PM

    What I never got is, what is the relationship between the two actions?

    Its like asking: Is it okay to herd goats or swim in ice cream?

    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • Re: Is having casual sex or marrying your cousins harmful?
     Reply #41 - August 23, 2011, 08:52 PM

    I can tell some members here have had casual sex with their cousins they got attracted to whistling2

    "I'm standing here like an asshole holding my Charles Dickens"

    "No theory,No ready made system,no book that has ever been written to save the world. i cleave to no system.."-Bakunin
  • Re: Is having casual sex or marrying your cousins harmful?
     Reply #42 - August 24, 2011, 07:11 PM

    What I never got is, what is the relationship between the two actions?

    Its like asking: Is it okay to herd goats or swim in ice cream?


     Cheesy
  • Re: Is having casual sex or marrying your cousins harmful?
     Reply #43 - August 24, 2011, 07:38 PM

    i had a crush on one of my first cousins when i was a teenager.
    He was sooo frackin good looking lol.  But taboo kept my
    thoughts under wraps and my speech about it silent.

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  • Re: Is having casual sex or marrying your cousins harmful?
     Reply #44 - June 11, 2012, 08:09 AM

    I see, i was never aware of this before.

    To be honest i have seen some of my cousins having a genetic defects, both of them died sadly before they reached the age of 20 and yet they attribute their death to the will of Allah(he gives and take away what belongs to him) :(


    I think these problems surface if the tradition is perpetuated generation after generation where the gene pool become severely restricted.

    One of my former friends and his family inherited a condition where some female members of the family died with kidney failure before reaching the age of five.

    Saying that though. I am married to my maternal cousin. Both our parents married outside the family. I have four children. The eldest used to have an eating disorder, the second has an iron deficiency, the third has no health concerns and the fourth has severe learning difficulties and has severe autism coupled with a wheat and gluten intolerance. But these things can happen to anybody. Other than that, they are very bright kids and are doing well at school and college.

    I personally wouldn't repeat the whole cousin marriage scenario and would discourage others from it. Not purely because of genetics but it can lead to other family problems that become tricky to resolve.
  • Re: Is having casual sex or marrying your cousins harmful?
     Reply #45 - June 11, 2012, 08:35 AM

    http://www.dh.gov.uk/prod_consum_dh/groups/dh_digitalassets/@dh/@en/@ps/documents/digitalasset/dh_117961.pdf

    To be completely clear about how serious genetic damage can be.  I wonder if some of the behaviours reported on this site, for example about parents forcing their children to marry someone, may actually be symptomatic of genetic damage over several generations.

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  • Re: Is having casual sex or marrying your cousins harmful?
     Reply #46 - June 11, 2012, 02:22 PM

    Cousin's marrying over the long term can result in health effects.  This is pretty much a known issue.  Now if you're a group of people who have married out for generations... and you just happen to fall in love with your cousin... I would say it's all good.


    As to casual sex?  I think we will socially sort it all out.
    The reality is there just isn't a culture on Earth where sexuality is treated like a handshake.
    There is simply something more to it.

    Sometimes there are issues of love, jealousy... that people cannot detach themselves.
    Sometimes there is an issue of dominance... screwing 'lesser' girls as is typical in Asian culture. 
    Sometimes it violates the social structure of the family unit.

    All I'm going to say with respect to casual sex is that historically sex has always been somewhat of a socially regulated activity.  There's reasons for that.  Maybe this is an new age and we as a society can handle casual sex.  Maybe not.  Maybe it is screwed up now, but we'll develop new social rules on casual sex.

    I've personally avoided it because I don't know how it will affect me in the grande scheme of things... and god gave me two hands for a reason.
  • Re: Is having casual sex or marrying your cousins harmful?
     Reply #47 - June 11, 2012, 06:03 PM

    I think these problems surface if the tradition is perpetuated generation after generation where the gene pool become severely restricted.

    One of my former friends and his family inherited a condition where some female members of the family died with kidney failure before reaching the age of five.

    Saying that though. I am married to my maternal cousin. Both our parents married outside the family. I have four children. The eldest used to have an eating disorder, the second has an iron deficiency, the third has no health concerns and the fourth has severe learning difficulties and has severe autism coupled with a wheat and gluten intolerance. But these things can happen to anybody. Other than that, they are very bright kids and are doing well at school and college.

    I personally wouldn't repeat the whole cousin marriage scenario and would discourage others from it. Not purely because of genetics but it can lead to other family problems that become tricky to resolve.


    Sorry to hear about that Omar though im glad they have turn out fine at the end.

    I myself am an offspring of arranged cousin marriage luckily,everyone has turn out fine but im worried about my brother who married his first maternal cousin- she is also an offspring of cousin marriage- they already have a daughter who is one year old though she hasnt shown any sign of defect yet which is good. i wish there is a way i can discourage them from having another child but that would fall on deaf ears.

    The way i see it most patriachs love to increase the size of their family that wont break and cousin marriage is the safest way for them to do so.

    "I'm standing here like an asshole holding my Charles Dickens"

    "No theory,No ready made system,no book that has ever been written to save the world. i cleave to no system.."-Bakunin
  • Re: Is having casual sex or marrying your cousins harmful?
     Reply #48 - June 21, 2012, 03:14 PM

    the fact is cousins are supposed to be treated and respected like brothers and sisters. Take the example of the sikh and hindu communities they totally against inter-relations. Its only mozlems who allow and follow this practice only because their religion permits it. finmad : Huh?
  • Re: Is having casual sex or marrying your cousins harmful?
     Reply #49 - June 21, 2012, 03:22 PM

    the fact is cousins are supposed to be treated and respected like brothers and sisters. Take the example of the sikh and hindu communities they totally against inter-relations. Its only mozlems who allow and follow this practice only because their religion permits it. finmad : Huh?

    mozlems.. yes mozlems...

    That is NOT STRICTLY TRUE Mr. rabksaj.,

    I can easily prove to you ., whatever is there in Islam interms of rituals, cultures/human relations., All such things were there before the birth of Islam., Including cousin marriages., It is Just Islam made it as some stupid rule by some fools.  Point is sikhs and hindus do marry cousins..


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  • Re: Is having casual sex or marrying your cousins harmful?
     Reply #50 - July 05, 2012, 09:31 AM

    You seem to be confusing two issues: marrying someone and breeding with her. In the UK and most parts of Europe you can marry your first cousin, even if you share both sets of grandparents (i.e. both of your parents and both of her parents are  siblings). Several people have already commented on this and explained the problems that result. You can see this in books about the history of Europe. The Royal families are all related to each other and until recently carried two liver diseases, haemophilia (an X-linked disease) and porphyria. The last haemophiliac in the Royal family was son of the last Tsar. The last person with porphyria was Queen Elizabeth II's cousin, who died in the 1960s. Inbreeding limits the genetic variation of a population and can easily occur in places that are geographically isolated, especially if a proportion of them carry a genetic disease, such as the Kentish Weald people who settled in Martha's Vinyard, resulting in a large number of deaf people in the area. This is known as the Founder Effect.

    Large cities such as Birmingham and Bradford are not isolated places. The problem is that immigrants are failing to marry into the host population. This has very damaging genetic effects, especially where a group who have come to live here carry genetic disorders and refuse to marry out, so the incidence of the gene rises and many children end up with two copies of a gene that, if it occurs singly, is harmless. The second problem resulting is that immigrant communities fail to integrate into society as a whole. This can easily be seen by comparing the Romany community and the Huguenots, both of whom arrived in Britain during Tudor times. The Huguenots immediately began to marry into British families, whilst the Romanies did not. Many of our major businesses were founded by Huguenots. Look at what most Romanies achieve.

    Many of the children in the big cities who are the result of inbreeding do not have specific recognised genetic diseases but are what GPs euphemistically call "syndromy".

    Marry your cousin by all means but before you breed from her get a DNA profile for both of you and all the relatives that you have in common. If there is a high degree of overlap and you want to have children, breed from someone  that you are not obviously related to. If you're carrying any nasty diseases, get yourself sterilised.
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