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  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #450 - March 18, 2012, 10:21 AM

    Good on you for resolving your issue, I hope he sticks to his word.

    Out of curiosity, I wanted to check what you said about single males under 25 not getting housing help, I always thought they were entitled to 1 room rate (which where i live is around £91 a week). Apparently I was wrong, they are only entitled to shared room rate-which is around £55 a week-which would mean one would have to share a room with a stranger? I find that absurd and bizarre.

    Anyway, sorry for the small digression, I was just curious about that little detail.

    Again though, good on you.

    "Nobody who lived through the '50s thought the '60s could've existed. So there's always hope."-Tuli Kupferberg

    What apple stores are like.....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8QmZWv-eBI
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #451 - March 18, 2012, 10:26 AM

    Yep, and of course they have to find it themselves, and find someone willing to take housing benefit in the first place, which many landlords don't.

    My brother has been to the housing many times, they just keep telling him that 18-25 = no help available at all.  Not unless you have just left prison, or just left a children's home.

    The other option is that they put him in the YMCA, which is fine, he would have done that, accept that because he is on a full time college course he is not entitled to any benefit at all, and of course the government even scrapped the EMA, so my brother gets no money.  All he gets is a discretionary fund from the college at £50 a week.

    So how would he pay the YMCA's rates or even for a shared room?

    Which is exactly what I mean, the position he is in right now, trying very hard to get somewhere, makes it harder for me to just kick him out. 

    If he was my sister, I could have kicked him out and by now the government would have found her a nice flat.


    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #452 - March 18, 2012, 10:30 AM

    Absurd. Anyway, if he just makes it through college, and gets a few good grades he can then go to uni and is sorted for the next 3/4 years on government money-which he won't have to pay back unless he gets a good job. It should be strong motivation for him. I saved up about 10K in my 3 years at uni just trimming fat and working 10 hours a week and just on my loan and grant, which was income assessed on my parents and I got less than he would, so he could save a nice little amount.

    Of course I pissed it away afterwards, but that's another fun story.

    Anyway, I hope he makes a go of it.

    "Nobody who lived through the '50s thought the '60s could've existed. So there's always hope."-Tuli Kupferberg

    What apple stores are like.....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8QmZWv-eBI
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #453 - March 18, 2012, 11:46 AM

    So glad to hear it all turned out to be drama free. And that you got to say what you wanted to say and he at least seemed to be listening and taking it on board. Sounds like you have found a working solution as a compromise. Really hope he sticks to his word, but maybe he will since the plan seems realistic. Of course if he starts to get flaky, you definitely need to stand your ground. Good start though and I think it's awesome that the positive steps you are taking in your life are having an effect on the rest of the family Smiley

  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #454 - April 10, 2012, 07:12 AM

    My youngest sister came to see me yesterday.  Not sure how many years it has been since I last saw her.  She is 19 this year, she was turning 17 when she ran away from home because the parents were threatening to hire someone to kill her for having pre-marital sex, or trying to convince my brothers to beat her (which is so going to bring me on to another point).

    Anyway I hadn't seen her since she decided to move back home after all of that, and of course I stopped talking to my family completely over it all, especially because my step mother accused me of intentionally trying to destroy her family.  Anyone who knows me well knows I just wouldn't ever do that to anyone.  I get angry, I don't get vengeful.  I only ever get into arguments when people dredge up the past again and even then each reaction is instant anger, not one part of me ever follows the revenge script.

    Anyway she spent a lot of time trying to convince me to visit my parents.

    I think maybe I might go.  I don't know why, I guess I want to see if my parents really are prepared to accept me as an ex muslim, which is what she said.

    I don't believe they would do anything to me if I visited, or because I am an ex muslim.

    As I said before, my parents had me declared crazy.  They still think I am crazy.  They believe allah will forgive me because I am mad, so I doubt they would try to hurt me physically.  Plus if they did, I'm over that part of me that would never fight them back. 

    I dunno.  The more she spoke the more I wanted to go.

    I still miss my family, but the joke is there isn't much to miss.  It's just a small emotional part of me that feels unbelievably lonely., a small part of me that still wishes she had some family to love, not just my own kids.

    I dunno.  I just don't know how I feel.  I'm worried I will never be able to forgive myself if my father dies before I change my mind.  When I'm full of anger and bravado, I don't care what happens.  but deep down I know myself, I know that if he dies without me seeing him again, will devastate me.  I know my parents did so many terrible things to me.  Things I have only understood later on in life.

    Not forgiven, or forgotten, just I understand.

    I understand they did their entire job as parents wrong, they followed a model they were taught to follow.  They were cruel to try and save me from hell, and cruel trying to save me from sexual shame (their own).  I don't excuse them, but I know why they were so retarded.

    Maybe just one visit, so that I feel I have done it.

    ==================

    Secondly my brother is still a backward muslim twat deep down and it makes me sick to my stomach, the way he tries to control  my sister who is turning 19 this year, is ridiculous.  She was smoking a fag in the garden, and then as she was leaving she realised my brother had been here the whole time, and she panicked because she had been smoking and he might have seen her.

    I told her to not be stupid and just smoke, he can't tell her what to do, but she still panicked.

    later when she left, I laughed with my bro over it, or at least i thought we would laugh together over it.  But NO, he agreed and said if he had seen her smoking he would have smacked her for it.  I was gobsmacked, I couldn't believe he was still so fucking pathetic over this.

    Then I pushed it more by bringing in my niece, who according to my sister is being beaten and controlled by my sister.

    My sister has turned into a typical muslim matriarch, I might add that this sister (we shall call her C, and my youngest sister, A). anyway C sister, who is my full blooded sister, who had her first baby out of wedlock, who used to rave with me, who took drugs with me, who used to drink with me and commit robberies with me. who used to be fun and knew how to have a laugh, has become a total bitch who beats her daughter to stop her from becoming a slag.

    She beats her.  finmad 

    I want to go down and see my niece and let her know that when things get to bad, my door will be open again.

    It will always be open to the people who need to run away from the stupidity that is muslim parenting.

    ================

    ^^ when I think about these things, this is a reason against me going to visit my parents.  The drama, the muslim drama that I have been free from for so fucking long.  It will be in my face again, and I will be stuck not wanting to push my beliefs on them, but feeling like I have to.

    banghead


    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #455 - April 10, 2012, 08:06 AM

    I think you should visit them just to see them and see how it will pan out, if you dont like what you see then leave as soon as you can.

    As for your brother and Sister, beating is not gonna make them change into a good muslimahs that they desire them to be,they will start rebelling and resent them more and they are not going to like that when that happens,they may forget the harm they are inflicting upon them(your niece and sister A) but they(victims) would never forget but sadly enough some people are too thick-headed to understand that.

    "I'm standing here like an asshole holding my Charles Dickens"

    "No theory,No ready made system,no book that has ever been written to save the world. i cleave to no system.."-Bakunin
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #456 - April 10, 2012, 12:30 PM

    If they are willing to be reasonable, I think you should visit otherwise it will be a regret lingering on you if you don't. Plus, it will reinforce your decision either way. With regards to your brother, wanting to beat your sister for smoking is that really him being Muslim or just feeling that he has to look after his little sister? Your older sister has had a change of heart and maybe finds Islam keeps her content/happy and she wants to repent for her bad choices when she was young, and she does not want her children to take the same path. Unless its abuse I don't think you have a right to tell her how to bring up her children, that can be a sensitive subject, and turn volatile pretty fast.
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #457 - April 10, 2012, 06:41 PM

    Only go if you think you can deal with it and if you feel ready to face them again. IMO, if your parents were prepared to accept your ex-muslimness then they'd contact you directly. Are you sure she just doesn't want to try and repair broken bonds?
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #458 - April 10, 2012, 11:19 PM

    How about meeting on some neutral ground such as a restaurant or something, away from the family home?

    "The greatest general is not the one who can take the most cities or spill the most blood. The greatest general is the one who can take Heaven and Earth without waging the battle." ~ Sun Tzu

  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #459 - April 11, 2012, 08:27 AM

    I think you should visit them just to see them and see how it will pan out, if you dont like what you see then leave as soon as you can.

    As for your brother and Sister, beating is not gonna make them change into a good muslimahs that they desire them to be,they will start rebelling and resent them more and they are not going to like that when that happens,they may forget the harm they are inflicting upon them(your niece and sister A) but they(victims) would never forget but sadly enough some people are too thick-headed to understand that.


    Yep.  I can't believe sister C has turned into an abuser..........you know she works with children too?  did a nursery nursing course etc.  I'm so shocked she hasn't gotten a control of herself yet. 

    Sister C has burn marks all over the tops of her hands from when my father heated up a knife and burned her hands, she has scars on her legs from where she tried to get away from the knife and it caught her each time she tried to move.  How can she still think abuse is ever right?  Cry  (fuck, I'm getting tearful just thinking about the things we went through together.  The way we comforted each other when we were being abused and how unhappy we were, and it's tearing me up that she is still repeating the past, and dragging down her daughter too)

    I fell in love with my neice when she was born, she was so beautiful, so smart as she grew.

    Sister C had a boy. then started treating her daughter like a servant.  Her son the prince, is 6/7 and has a fb account. her daughter is 13 and not allowed a fb account because it might turn her into a slag.  Sister A told me that sister C said that when confronted over her controlling sexist ways.

    I loathe sister C where once I loved her and protected her and sheltered her each time she ran away from home.

    I stopped talking to sister C because I don't like bitches.  I hate people who enjoy other people's pain.  I stupidly feel bad for my enemies, I feel guilt that I can't repair damage between myself and people who hate me for whatever reasons they have.  Shit like this makes it hard for me to sleep at night, so hanging around with anyone who revels in the pain of others is not for me.  This is what sister C has become though.  A bitter bitch, a Moroccan back stabbing bitch.

    She is like my step mum and my step mother's bitch friends.

    She always fit into moroccan society once she turned bitch and I've never been able to become enough a bitch to fit in.

    My family say of me "her heart is too soft for life".  Maybe they are right.  Grin

    and right now, my soft heart is breaking thinking about the ongoing damage in the family I try so hard to ignore. 

    If they are willing to be reasonable, I think you should visit otherwise it will be a regret lingering on you if you don't. Plus, it will reinforce your decision either way. With regards to your brother, wanting to beat your sister for smoking is that really him being Muslim or just feeling that he has to look after his little sister? Your older sister has had a change of heart and maybe finds Islam keeps her content/happy and she wants to repent for her bad choices when she was young, and she does not want her children to take the same path. Unless its abuse I don't think you have a right to tell her how to bring up her children, that can be a sensitive subject, and turn volatile pretty fast.


    Yea right.

    My sister A had a fb status saying "forgive me allah, I know it's wrong but it feels so nice", she is nowhere near finding solace in islam.

    Of all my family she was the most responsive when I was telling her about Islam.  She linked stuff together quickly.

    But I never had enough time to really press it because she went back home, something I understand from having been there before.

    As to looking out for her ie my brother, a lecture is fine, but to threaten abuse over anything he disagrees with, that is fucking wrong.  Mind you, you defending that doesn't surprise me.



    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #460 - April 11, 2012, 08:44 AM

    Only go if you think you can deal with it and if you feel ready to face them again. IMO, if your parents were prepared to accept your ex-muslimness then they'd contact you directly. Are you sure she just doesn't want to try and repair broken bonds?


    They used to try to contact me directly.  I am just not very responsive.

    They asked me to come to eid too, bring the kids etc.

    My parents are a bit weird you know, they are muslims, they are crazy for sure, but as long as no one in the wider community knows I am an ex muslim, or know that my abusive marriage sent me crazy, then they don't face the same pressure to control me as they used to when it came to sex etc.

    Maybe my sister is trying to heal the rift.

    However my brother isn't, my brother doesn't even visit my parents much at all, they phone him and he always says "I know you don't want to hear any passed on messages but mum wants to talk to you on the phone" and I always roll my eyes and walk away.

    They have even tried to bribe my forgiveness by the way.  I've had gifts sent down to me just because.   Roll Eyes

    It wasn't them who rejected me in the end, it was me who rejected them. 

    if you think you are ready to visit them then do it.. I think you might regret not seeing your father before he dies too.. see him and the rest of the family only if you think you can handle it, if you think it will fuck with you emotionally then dont.. also I think starting some sort of relationship with sister A would be good for you. she doesnt seem judgemental or hateful.. yes family is drama, but if its someone whom you think will be there for you when it counts then they are worth having in your life.. im only talking about sister A and your brother.. the rest is only if you want to and can handle it, and even then you should probably keep some sort of distance from them.. like only a once in a while visit would do.


    The thing is I'm not sure they are worth having in my life.  Not sister A or brother, still haven't quite given up on them yet, but I remember getting nothing worthwhile out of having parents before except for drama.

    I said I would only consider it if I was kept out of all of their stupid family dramas, as in no one should ever phone me to bitch about someone else, I don't care what so and so said, I don't care if my dad and mum aren't talking today, or are talking tomorrow.  I don't care about this side of the family shunning us because they think my step mum is a bitch, and now somehow I should shun the family back to defend my step mum's honour.  Grin

    I fucking hate this type of drama.  Grin

    I still have an emotional desire to see them though.  I think I still have some feelings left that haven't been totally exorcised yet otherwise why, in the face of all of that drama would I still consider it?  Grin

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    tell sister A that you are there for her. tell your brother that if he ever touches that girl he is out of your house and life!


    Oh believe me he knows, he can rant but if he touches her, ever, he's on the street.  I wouldn't even care after since beating girls is never forgiven by me. 

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    if you think you can do it then also visit sister C to check up on your niece,give her your adress and number, and as you say,tell her you are there if she needs help.. if you are up for it, ask sister C how she can do such things to her little girl? make her remember her own childhood and what that sort of parenting does to a person. hell if you can teach her about the parts of islam that defend children, about parents being supportive and the children feeling safe in their home.. tell her that if she treats her kid like shit only bad things will happen, rebelion and such...




    I wish I could go but she and I really don't get along.  When i say we don't get along, we actually fight.  Physical fist-i-cuffs, police getting called by onlookers sort of fight.  It's like with her, I have no social barrier that prevents me from punching her. Grin

    I hate bitches as I said.  I absolutely loathe the woman she has become, women like that always say something that triggers in me such anger.

    She is the sort of woman who would blame a woman for being raped and actually laugh about it.

    She is the sort of woman who laughed that my step mother was mugged and beaten in west london.

    She is a fucking cow.  I hate her.

    The only way I will ever see my niece again is if my sister A can arrange it, and I am sure that is coming.  My sister A knows that I am always a point of call in any emergency.  And since she is just as disgusted at what is happening, if things get really bad I can see A bringing my niece here to me.

    ==========================


    I think I am going to go to see them.  Will aim for next weekend saturday, head over there for dinner and see how it goes.


    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #461 - April 11, 2012, 12:23 PM

    I hope you can tackle the problem succesfully one by one,

    Sorry if my question is intrusive,
    how many sibling do you have  ?

    As for me I'm a third son among my 6 brothers, always fighting each others when we were a kid,
    I was closest to my youngest brothers, my second oldest bro is a sadist, always beat up his underling using reason 'to toughen us up', he seriously believe that ,
    yeah he won't remember it, but the victim always keep it back in their head,
    my youngest brother even joked to me that he will beat his (my second oldest brother) son in the name to toughen him, if he's ever have a son.
    I hope this kind of thing will end
    Are all of this behaviour genetics,
    or is it psychologically transferred from parent to their children, I'll stop here, this is berb thread afterall, but I do hope we can relate in this matter.

  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #462 - April 11, 2012, 06:12 PM

    Family, such an emotional web.

    I hope the best for you Berberella. I've been following this latest but haven't had time to comment. Like everyone one else I first and foremost say you alone know what you can handle.

    I would like very much to have a good relationship with my children and a good relationship with both my parents. What I want isn't possible right now because they need to want it also. I won't stop trying because these people are valuable to me. I however have some siblings  that are of no more interest to me then a stranger.  It is only a statement of how much effort and emotional pain I am willing to endure for the relationship. I think you'll do well in what you decide. I think you're right these family. Tights means something to you or why would you still even think about it.

    If at first you succeed...try something harder.

    Failing isn't falling down. Failing is not getting back up again.
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #463 - April 21, 2012, 01:06 PM

    I'm supposed to be heading to my parents today.  They are waiting for me, apparently they have cooked my favourite food.  Wish they hadn't.  Wish I hadn't said yes.

    I've been trying to get ready all morning, tried on I don't even know how many outfits, tried different hair, different make up, just tried to be different. 

    But nothing I've tried on has helped me stop feeling like the ugly worthless creature I see in the mirror.  I'm so stressed out and I realise its because of all the people who have made me feel so ugly and worthless in my life, these are the people that sit at the top.  (oh great, now I'm crying and ruining make up attempt number 4) :(

    I don't think my BDD has assaulted me so hard in ages.  I want to smash the mirror, I want them to see me as something.  I want to impress them, since thats all they seemed to care about when I was growing up.

    "You're so ugly, you're so brown, we won't ever find a husband for you"

    I'm so ugly, I'm so worthless, I am nothing and no one, that's how I feel right this very minute.  I can't believe how distressed I am getting at the idea that I have to go see them and I still look like I feel, like nothing. 

    Of all the things I thought would bother me today, I didn't think the way I looked would be the deciding factor in seeing my own parents.  Imagine that.  I am too ashamed for them to see my face.  Cry

    I actually only today recognise that.  I've never before connected the dots.

    I've always been the ugly one but at least I was the nicer one, the muslim one, I had that.  What do I have to offer them now?  I'm nothing they can ever be proud of.

    I don't know if I can step out of this house today, but I've promised, even reconfirmed less than 2 hours ago that I was coming.  I've been trying so hard to make the mirror tell me that at least I have something, but I'm so ashamed of my face, of myself, of who I am as a person.

    I have no pride with which to sit there and defend myself from the past and the memories that are overwhelming me this moment.

    I wish I didn't feel this way.  I wish I could stop crying and just get ready and go down there as I am obliged now. 


    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #464 - April 21, 2012, 01:07 PM

    How can I be this age and still be this pathetic? 

    Even if all the things I think about myself are not true, I am still pathetic and useless for thinking them, so I lose. 


    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #465 - April 21, 2012, 01:10 PM

    I know what you are thinking...oh here it comes, attention seeking moment but I don't want your false compliments anyway. 

    As if they are real lol I posted a pic of me in which you couldn't even see my face and people said I was pretty, could you have been anymore false?  you couldn't even see my face and I am supposed to take that and feel like I am worth something. 

    I'm no philosopher, no great debater, stupid single mum who's claim to fame is that I got beaten a lot.  Wow, aren't I fucking special.


    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #466 - April 21, 2012, 01:11 PM

    fuck I hate myself. 


    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #467 - April 21, 2012, 01:34 PM

     far away hug


    EDIT:  and i REALLY MEAN IT! lol

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  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #468 - April 21, 2012, 01:46 PM

    Sis, you are going to be fine maybe if i was closer i would have pushed you and escort you. Smiley

    Just go and check, see how it would pan out.

    "I'm standing here like an asshole holding my Charles Dickens"

    "No theory,No ready made system,no book that has ever been written to save the world. i cleave to no system.."-Bakunin
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #469 - April 21, 2012, 01:51 PM

    "You're so ugly, you're so brown,

    There are so many shades of brown, none ugly, some amazingly beautiful.


    At least you're not a ginge, Miss Berbs, with cow legs instead of camel legs.
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #470 - April 21, 2012, 02:03 PM

    As if they are real lol I posted a pic of me in which you couldn't even see my face and people said I was pretty, could you have been anymore false? 


    They could be referring to the features that were visible.
    I've seen your face on a picture you posted earlier, and thought you were well attractive. It's no bullshit. You're slender, well-proportioned, with smooth skin and pleasant facial features. If that's ugly, then I'm not sure what word describes all the women who don't have some (or all) of those features.

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    I'm no philosopher, no great debater, stupid single mum who's claim to fame is that I got beaten a lot.  Wow, aren't I fucking special.


    Neither is an overwhelming majority of people. Most people are no "great" anything. You can make anyone look bad by a deflationary description.




    Have you heard the good news? There is no God!
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #471 - April 21, 2012, 02:33 PM

    Telling your child that she's too brown is fucked up. Growing up surrounded by people lighter/darker than oneself can hurt one's self-image as is, without utterly asinine comments like that thrown in.

    Most people on this planet are some shade of brown, and pasty white people are actually among a minority.

    Have you heard the good news? There is no God!
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #472 - April 21, 2012, 03:26 PM

    Quote
    We all have personal issues at any given age, you have nothing to feel ashamed about

    Second that. You know we're always here for you. You can be 'attention-seeking' all you like Afro

    I'm so ugly, I'm so worthless, I am nothing and no one, that's how I feel right this very minute.  I can't believe how distressed I am getting at the idea that I have to go see them and I still look like I feel, like nothing. 

    Of all the things I thought would bother me today, I didn't think the way I looked would be the deciding factor in seeing my own parents.  Imagine that.  I am too ashamed for them to see my face.  Cry

    I actually only today recognise that.  I've never before connected the dots.

    You may think of yourself as ugly, but they clearly don't feel you are worthless if they are so desperate to have you over, even cooked your favourite food!

    I'm really sorry for the way they've made you feel about your looks, but you will have to face this issue sooner or later if you want to see your parents. If you think it is too much to face today then don't go, but it will hurt your parents. Putting it off wont make you feel any better either and it wont help with your issue. You know there is only one way of dealing with it.

     far away hug
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #473 - April 21, 2012, 04:10 PM

     far away hug I'm sorry your struggling with body issues and low self-esteem at the moment, no one's thinking that it's an attention seeking thing, the fact is that many people hate their body/faces and it can be hard to accept compliments etc... no matter how pretty they are. It's what's inside you that counts anyway isn't it? You're funny, smart, supportive of others, and strong, least that's what I've seen so far on being on this board.

    It's hard having your parents chip away at your self-worth and self-esteem all those years, it makes for self-hatred, but think about one of your kids, you wouldn't allow anyone to speak to your children like that, and you are no different, you don't deserve to have anyone speak to you like that, not even yourself continuing that emotional abuse.

    What would you say to one of your kids if they brought up this subject with you? If fact if it was anyone else other than you?

    Huge Hugs  hugs
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #474 - April 21, 2012, 04:36 PM

    You're probably at your parents' right now, and I'm totally late, and sorry that I haven't read this entire thread so I'm kinda out of the loop, but...

    I know what you are thinking...oh here it comes, attention seeking moment but I don't want your false compliments anyway. 

    Nobody thinks that!! :( People only think the best of you, I'm 100% certain of that, and everybody respects you, and I think you're really funny and nice. And you're also kind and can relate to people, and you have good communication skills, and you know stuff, so that's like a million things in your favour already.

    I haven't seen a pic of your face so I don't know if you're beautiful on the outside, but that doesn't even matter because looks fade. And you're DEFINITELY beautiful on the inside and anyone here can confirm that. The biggest accomplishment is to be a good person and you've totally achieved it already. Please don't hate yourself. It's not worth it. It'll just make you feel horrible and yucky, and of course you can't become somebody else so you might as well love others and love yourself, and realise that others love you just like you love them.

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    I'm no philosopher, no great debater, stupid single mum who's claim to fame is that I got beaten a lot.  Wow, aren't I fucking special.

    But that must be so hard, being a single parent!!! It's so amazing that you can do that, because I couldn't. And it shows that you're strong and I bet your kids love you, and if you ever feel bad try to see yourself through their eyes.

    Please don't be sad anymore! And I hope your meeting with your parents goes really really well & you come back feeling better. Smiley

    Self ban for Ramadan (THAT RHYMES)

    Expect me to come back a Muslim. Cool Tongue j/k we'll see..
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #475 - April 21, 2012, 04:37 PM

    Also, who gives a flying duck what colour your skin is? People are silly. People of every race get married regardless of their skin colour, clearly that's a fact since their genes are still in circulation. And you shouldn't judge your worth by the way you look or by if you're married or not.

    Honestly, I wish parents would stop talking about skin colour. It's not healthy and it's just wrong.

     far away hug

    Self ban for Ramadan (THAT RHYMES)

    Expect me to come back a Muslim. Cool Tongue j/k we'll see..
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #476 - April 21, 2012, 07:02 PM

    fuck I hate myself. 


    Yeah, but I love you, and since you think so lowly of yourself right now, that means your opinion would be worthless too, so I win. Tongue

    Hit me up when you get back please.

    fuck you
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #477 - April 21, 2012, 08:21 PM

    Awww ^^ mysmilie_977 You two 001_wub

    Berbs, what your parents did to you is what is ugly. What your ex did to you is what is ugly. You are better than them. You have it in you not to let them win. Of course certain things in life will always trigger these kinds of moments when it all rushes back and all the work you've done on yourself, all the stuff your intellect has learned, stops mattering to your heart, the part of you that is still deeply, profoundly hurt, and angry.

    I know you a little bit now more than I used to, and I can tell that there are so many facets of you. The part that feels like shit about herself, about her body and her life, is one facet of you. It's the part that is most vulnerable, the part that's scarred inside. She may never go away but the other parts of you can shelter her, comfort her, help her. And of course you, obviously, have lots of friends on this site, at least, who are always happy listen to you and give you support.

    So c'mon, don't blame yourself for your parents' and your ex's fuckedupnesses. They would be fucked up even if they'd never met you.
     far away hug

    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #478 - April 21, 2012, 10:40 PM

    Sorry to hear what you're going through Berbs.  far away hug

    I'm sorry to read more about the psychological and physical abuse that your suffered, you didn't deserve to be treated that way - not then, and not now. I've personally found you one the most attractive (I'm obviously talking about not just your looks) characters I've ever come across on the web - I find you insightful, funny, and genuine. But above all you have good heart.

    And to reitrate; peeps in this forum do genuinely like, and care about you.

    I agree with Allat - and I'm sure you know from pop psychology theories that we have an child ego state within us. And it sounds like anticipating meeting your parent brought your child ego state to the forefront?

    For me I found a way to comfort myself via recognizing that my 'inner child' wants unconditional acceptance, appreciation, visibility, sensitivity, and to be appreciated with comparison - ultimately loved. So I try to give my inner child those things via changing my internal dialogue to more compassionate dialogue via compassionate letter writing, I've found it helps. Might be worth a try?

    http://welcomingpath.blogspot.co.uk/2010/09/self-compassion-8a-writing.html
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #479 - April 22, 2012, 06:05 AM

    Dearest Berberella,
    Sometimes we let the mirror lie to us. I think perhaps there are times when your emotions are not running away with you and you are fully aware of the truth of this fact. I know with myself that is the way it is. Most the time my brain knows that my emotions can lie to me about my looks. My Mom would say things  to me like  "if you weren't so fat and ugly I'd buy you cute clothes."  And for many years as a child a good number of clothes  were hand me downs from my brother. As a result I was teased  a great deal. Anyhow now my self image is all wrong. I can tell you in the past 2 years  I've lost 75 lb. But when I look in the mirror I still see a fat person.  I still see an ugly person. Why? Because I've ALWAYS been fat and ugly my Mom told me so over and over again. Even though perhaps hundreds of people have told me otherwise and my brain can compare me to other people the little girl in me the wants the approval of my mommy. I heard to often my Mom say "you're to fat and ugly". It's hard I know but listen to your brain and your friends NOT your emotions that are running wild. I saw the picture of your face turned away, there was nothing ugly about you. And like I said then you're  beautiful because you are a survivor. For that alone you have so much to offer to others, your experience, kind words, compassion, extended hand, tough love.

    I hope your diner with your parents went well. If not this time then next time.

    If we didn't  live half a world away from each other I come over to give you a hug.  Big hug

    If at first you succeed...try something harder.

    Failing isn't falling down. Failing is not getting back up again.
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