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  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #480 - April 22, 2012, 06:51 AM

    I hope it went well, Sis.

    "I'm standing here like an asshole holding my Charles Dickens"

    "No theory,No ready made system,no book that has ever been written to save the world. i cleave to no system.."-Bakunin
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #481 - April 22, 2012, 09:36 AM

    Thanks to everyone for the time they took to reply yesterday, I realy appreciate the kind words.  I was going to reply yesterday when I returned but I was still in such a negative place my mind was just pushing all the comments away in my usual way so I decided to leave it til I got a grip of myself.

    I'm still a bit low today but at least I am not manic about it all which is how I felt yesterday.  Today I think I'm just still low because I am tired and drained by yesterdays emotions.  Today is the sort of day I need to recharge myself through the love of my children and just drag them into bed with me so I can lie between them and know I am loved unconditionally right now, and we can watch a movie or two.

    It's foolish to think the way I was thinking yesterday, I know that. 

    I'm still surprised at how much it affected me yesterday to face them.  I didn't expect that reaction, I didn't expect to find myself too ashamed to face them thanks to the thoughts of BDD.  I've always known they helped create these issues in my head, but never realised just how much they still affect it.

    I was literally shaking when I reached the top of the road they live on.  I wasn't scared of them physically, I wasn't afraid they would have issues with my apostasy, I wasn't afraid of anything that makes sense, I was afraid of my reflection in their eyes and the judgements of not being good enough.

    When I left my house I had reached the stage where I was saying "so what, fuck it, if I'm not good enough fuck it, if they want to see me that way fuck it."  and I forced myself to go and face them and face this fear I have of their judgements.  It wasn't easy but I am glad I forced myself out otherwise I would still need to do it one day and at least its done now.

    I need to get a grip of this side of me, I'm not even sure how or if its possible, but I need to find a way to come to terms with myself.  A way to start to like the persona staring back at you.

    Not that I feel I need to apologise for my unhappiness or indeed my devastating dramas, but one day to hopefully like myself enough that any dramas are nothing to do with an internal dialogue that I never asked for and yet am stuck with nevertheless.

    I do not find it easy to accept love from anyone, I might even say I find it impossible.  You can like me but you can't love me.  Love is a word and the word is a joke.  My parents told me they loved me yesterday.  I didn't believe them.  I didn't bother telling them that, but I felt it was just false words. 

    ^^ I don't know how to learn to be different from that.  How can I change, how can I heal myself, how can I let go and more importantly how do I learn to love myself since this is the common reply?

    How does one learn to love themselves?  no idea at all.  Been trying for years and years and years and I'm even worse than I once was.  Grin

    Anyway when I start to speak of how I feel I find the negativity creeping back into my replies and I don't want to do that.  I want to get a grip of myself and carry on moving forward like I must. 

    It wasn't that bad at my parents when I finally got there.  Not sure I will be hurrying back to see them again since this drama I feel will only rear its ugly head again and continue to do so until I accept myself. 

    My parents are changed people though.  Still superstitious, still misinformed about Islam, but far from who they used to be.  I know this because my sister just asked me infront of them "when are we going clubbing sis, I'm over 18 now, lets go paaaaarty and get drunk"...............she said this infront my my step mum (which I can understand) and my father (which made me feel like this    mysmilie_977 )

    when my step mum started talking about my sister getting married to a nice moroccan boy, my sister just spat arabic style "t'fooo" and said she would marry no one but a jamaican man cos muslim men are horrid.  to which my other sister high fived her whilst I sat down gob smacked at how free they now were.

    I mean I used to do the spitting part and the insulting of muslim men part infront of my parents, but I never talked of drinking, boyfriends, clubbing, etc infront of them.  It was a silent given.  My parents aren't the same anymore.

    My father hugged me.  Cry  first time in years and years.  He spoke to me and served me my food and told me I had grown into an even more beautiful woman.  Cry  they both agreed and I almost cried as my brain rejected what they were saying to me.

    It's me who is still stuck in the past it would appear.  Me who struggles to let go and move on, and it seems that even with their acceptance (which I had ten times over yesterday) I still can't accept that.

    I guess this is as allat said, that side of me that won't ever really go away but needs to be supported by the other sides of me, because I do have other sides to me, not just this vanity.  It's that child in me that needed acceptance back then but never got it, only now as an adult I reject it because I dunno.  I ddon't why I reject it.  I mean I have finally been given it, so why do I still push it away? 

    Anyway I'm ok now.  Yesterday was yesterday, today is a get a grip and rely on my kids to make me feel loved, so that tomorrow I can go back to what I was doing last week, which was moving forward and working towards positive changes in my life for me and my kids.

    Thanks again for all of your replies, yesterday it might have felt bad to read them because I didn't believe them, but today I can take the underlying theme and work with it, and that is that I must stop feeling ashamed for my scars, stop hating myself the way I do, and learn to accept myself.    hugs

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #482 - April 22, 2012, 10:04 AM

    How does one learn to love themselves?

    By first accepting yourself.

    "Beauty is truth, truth beauty," - that is all
            Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know.

    - John Keats
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #483 - April 22, 2012, 10:50 AM

    Perhaps change your thinking just a little  bit.

    When you see something you think is a scar, stop don't think ugly scar.
    Think instead a battle survived,  you did the best that you could.
    Those hard times didn't take away the best of you. You never gave up
    You never surrendered.

    Nothing that you don't  already know..

    If at first you succeed...try something harder.

    Failing isn't falling down. Failing is not getting back up again.
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #484 - April 22, 2012, 12:54 PM

    It's so good that you're feeling a bit better within yourself, snuggling up with the kids to watch movies sounds awesome! It's something that can really help on hard days, I do it too with my babies.  Smiley

    Your reaction with the whole thing of visiting your parents and the BDD issues and feeling rejected is normal, our bodies contain physical memories to do with past events, and if it's traumatic like these obviously were, it can come up suddenly and leave us feeling horrible and shaky and the same thoughts/feelings that we had when those events occurred can take over. It's really hard to take control and those reactions don't go away overnight. I don't know either if they ever go away fully, but with time they can become weakened (as we work on stuff through therapy and personal exercises) and you can gain more and more control over how you feel/think/react to these sorts of situations.

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    I need to get a grip of this side of me, I'm not even sure how or if its possible, but I need to find a way to come to terms with myself.  A way to start to like the persona staring back at you.

    Not that I feel I need to apologise for my unhappiness or indeed my devastating dramas, but one day to hopefully like myself enough that any dramas are nothing to do with an internal dialogue that I never asked for and yet am stuck with nevertheless.

    I do not find it easy to accept love from anyone, I might even say I find it impossible.  You can like me but you can't love me.  Love is a word and the word is a joke.  My parents told me they loved me yesterday.  I didn't believe them.  I didn't bother telling them that, but I felt it was just false words.

    ^^ I don't know how to learn to be different from that.  How can I change, how can I heal myself, how can I let go and more importantly how do I learn to love myself since this is the common reply?

    How does one learn to love themselves?  no idea at all.  Been trying for years and years and years and I'm even worse than I once was.  Grin


    I don't know neither, on the same sort of journey with healing and learning how to love oneself and accept oneself, can totally relate to the "love" thing being a just a word that is a joke. Something that I'm trying that might work for you, or you might already be doing it, I don't know, but is to re-parent one-self the way one would parent one's own children. Guess it's probably like the supporting that part of yourself that is still stuck back there, that allat and you mentioned.

     far away hug You are so strong, these aren't easy matters to get through, it's tough feeling like a child and experiencing the same emotions/thoughts over and over, especially with triggering events like going to visit them, but the fact that you are talking about it is good. *Hugs*  Afro



  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #485 - April 22, 2012, 05:34 PM

    Quote
    I do not find it easy to accept love from anyone, I might even say I find it impossible.  You can like me but you can't love me.  Love is a word and the word is a joke.  My parents told me they loved me yesterday.  I didn't believe them.  I didn't bother telling them that, but I felt it was just false words. 

    ^^ I don't know how to learn to be different from that.  How can I change, how can I heal myself, how can I let go and more importantly how do I learn to love myself since this is the common reply?

    How does one learn to love themselves?  no idea at all.  Been trying for years and years and years and I'm even worse than I once was.

    Don't analyse yourself and put yourself under a microscope all the time. You are who you are. And don't take other people's judgments so seriously or allow them to impact you so deeply.

    ^ That's what I think anyway, but I don't study psychology, so....yeah. Smiley

    I'm glad that your parents still love you. Here's a piglet:  piggy Cuz it's cute Tongue

    Self ban for Ramadan (THAT RHYMES)

    Expect me to come back a Muslim. Cool Tongue j/k we'll see..
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #486 - April 22, 2012, 06:05 PM

     far away hug

  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #487 - April 22, 2012, 06:10 PM

    How does one learn to love themselves?

    By first accepting yourself.


    You do realise that this didn't answer my question, but just rephrased the same issue? 

    I could ask the question again "How does one learn to accept themselves?" it's still the same dilemma, only you answered it with the dilemma lol

    Perhaps change your thinking just a little  bit.

    When you see something you think is a scar, stop don't think ugly scar.
    Think instead a battle survived,  you did the best that you could.
    Those hard times didn't take away the best of you. You never gave up
    You never surrendered.

    Nothing that you don't  already know..


    I am trying, I'm always trying.  I give myself the survivor speech often.  hugs

    It's so good that you're feeling a bit better within yourself, snuggling up with the kids to watch movies sounds awesome! It's something that can really help on hard days, I do it too with my babies.  Smiley


    Yea it was good, I do it often lol do you also go steal them from their bed in the night to snuggle up with you when you feel lonely and sad or just miss them?  I do.  It's a bit hard cos they are so heavy these days which means I have to wake em up and ask if they want to come sleep with me, but they always jump straight up and follow me because they enjoy it too grin12

    My kids are the things that keep me trying.  Otherwise I would have given up already.   yes

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    Your reaction with the whole thing of visiting your parents and the BDD issues and feeling rejected is normal, our bodies contain physical memories to do with past events, and if it's traumatic like these obviously were, it can come up suddenly and leave us feeling horrible and shaky and the same thoughts/feelings that we had when those events occurred can take over. It's really hard to take control and those reactions don't go away overnight. I don't know either if they ever go away fully, but with time they can become weakened (as we work on stuff through therapy and personal exercises) and you can gain more and more control over how you feel/think/react to these sorts of situations.


    Yep.  I need to start actively working on my thoughts and my reactions to things.  I'm really hoping the therapy will help, if only by showing me some tricks to get through them. 

    I dunno though, I have so far had zero success via therapy.  I am once again hoping it will help, but experience tells me that it might not.  I need to start looking into self help more than anything. 

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    I don't know neither, on the same sort of journey with healing and learning how to love oneself and accept oneself, can totally relate to the "love" thing being a just a word that is a joke. Something that I'm trying that might work for you, or you might already be doing it, I don't know, but is to re-parent one-self the way one would parent one's own children. Guess it's probably like the supporting that part of yourself that is still stuck back there, that allat and you mentioned.


    It's far far easier for me to love another, and if you knew my trust issues you'd know this is saying something, than it is to love myself.  It's just hard.  I've had such a negative view of myself for...............well I think I can't really remember a time I liked myself.  But childhood abandonment is very very hard to recover from.  It leaves you, the child, always feeling like you made that person leave. that you weren't good enough, and if you have people telling you that is why you have been abandoned, it's not just in your own head anymore.

    That child has never left me.  Never let up.  I'm always waiting for people to leave, if they don't leave no doubt I push them away in the end. 

    Well hey, at least we can share our funny stories, dramas and attempts at change with each other on here, it's going to be a long journey for both of us I believe.  Learning to accept a person that someone you once loved never could, well that takes time. 

    Of course I did hit a bump in my recovery road when I faced a new abandonment/rejection scenario a couple of years ago that set me back immensely on my road to recovery, but I like to believe I am on that road again.  Smiley

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    far away hug You are so strong, these aren't easy matters to get through, it's tough feeling like a child and experiencing the same emotions/thoughts over and over, especially with triggering events like going to visit them, but the fact that you are talking about it is good. *Hugs*  Afro



    It doesn't feel good you know, it feels repetitive. That child doesn't ever go away, she pops back up and I talk again, and again, and again.  It feels bad to keep feeling this way.

    It's like you said on your blog though, pull your socks up, well it just doesn't work.  It takes as long as it takes, and it's a simple as that.


    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #488 - April 22, 2012, 06:20 PM

    Don't analyse yourself and put yourself under a microscope all the time. You are who you are. And don't take other people's judgments so seriously or allow them to impact you so deeply.

    ^ That's what I think anyway, but I don't study psychology, so....yeah. Smiley


    I think I am always going to be this way though. I like to introspect, it's what I do more often than not.  I'm away in my head analysing myself and the world around me. to not do it would be to change a core part of who I am, which is still rejecting myself in the long run.

    I think the key here is not to be hurt by the things I think, to not analyse in such a critical way, and to introspect without using it as a stick to mentally beat myself with.  Grin

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    I'm glad that your parents still love you. Here's a piglet:  piggy Cuz it's cute Tongue


    I'm not sure how I feel about them right now.  I have many unresolved issues, things I want to say and deal with, with them, so for me it was I dunno, tense.  I felt on edge and like I had something buried in me that I couldn't bring out.

    So much pain and drama would come from me confronting them over the past that mostly it doesn't feel worth it. 

    No point in confronting them about their reaction to my rape, because if they reacted the same it would hurt so much.  It's an old wound that hasn't been dealt with.

    So yea, they say they love me, but love isn't just a word.  It's shown in actions. 

    But thank you for listening, and thank you for your posts yesterday.  You were really sweet and I appreciate it hugs

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #489 - April 22, 2012, 06:20 PM

    far away hug




    Thanks hugs

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #490 - April 23, 2012, 07:05 AM

    Well done for getting through it, I hope you resolve your feelings soon.

    "Nobody who lived through the '50s thought the '60s could've existed. So there's always hope."-Tuli Kupferberg

    What apple stores are like.....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8QmZWv-eBI
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #491 - April 23, 2012, 07:15 AM

    My parents are changed people though.  Still superstitious, still misinformed about Islam, but far from who they used to be.  I know this because my sister just asked me infront of them "when are we going clubbing sis, I'm over 18 now, lets go paaaaarty and get drunk"...............she said this infront my my step mum (which I can understand) and my father (which made me feel like this    mysmilie_977 )

    when my step mum started talking about my sister getting married to a nice moroccan boy, my sister just spat arabic style "t'fooo" and said she would marry no one but a jamaican man cos muslim men are horrid.  to which my other sister high fived her whilst I sat down gob smacked at how free they now were.

    I mean I used to do the spitting part and the insulting of muslim men part infront of my parents, but I never talked of drinking, boyfriends, clubbing, etc infront of them.  It was a silent given.  My parents aren't the same anymore.

    That's quite a change! An impressive one too. Mine only became more strict unfortunately. It's good to see yours were a bit more sensible Afro

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    My father hugged me.  Cry  first time in years and years.  He spoke to me and served me my food and told me I had grown into an even more beautiful woman.  Cry  they both agreed and I almost cried as my brain rejected what they were saying to me.

     far away hug

    Quote
    It's me who is still stuck in the past it would appear.  Me who struggles to let go and move on, and it seems that even with their acceptance (which I had ten times over yesterday) I still can't accept that.

    I guess this is as allat said, that side of me that won't ever really go away but needs to be supported by the other sides of me, because I do have other sides to me, not just this vanity.  It's that child in me that needed acceptance back then but never got it, only now as an adult I reject it because I dunno.  I ddon't why I reject it.  I mean I have finally been given it, so why do I still push it away? 

    You're the one stuck in the past because you have the deepest scars which have yet to heal. It's easier to learn behaviours as a child, and incredibly difficult to later unlearn them as an adult, but not impossible.

    I'm glad you made it in the end.  far away hug
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #492 - May 24, 2012, 08:43 AM

    So according to my therapist I need to spend this week thinking about things that make me a worthwhile person.

    I'd say since Saturday I have been actively working on not thinking I am worthless.  Which is pretty daily and frequent within each day.  Usually a glimpse in a mirror triggers it, but other things do too.  So anyway I made a personal decision on saturday to never ever willingly call myself worthless again.

    Like even if I am ugly, even if my family abused me, even if men I loved never loved me, these things still don't make me worthless. Everyone has worth, or matters in some way, to someone, don't they?

    So since saturday I have been fighting my mantra.  When my mind or my mouth says to me "worthless" I am actively saying no, no I'm not. 

    But when i told my therapist this is what I had started doing she said it wasn't enough, that the things I am saying to myself to beat the 'worthless' statements are negative still.

    Like "just because you're ugly doesn't make you worthless" is not good enough.  But to me it feels good enough.  It's like Os's pineapple compliment, rough on the outside but tasty in the middle sort of attitude.  I can handle this.

    What i can't handle is being told to say "I'm beautiful" Cheesy  anyone who knows me irl knows this isn't true, so stop trying to make me say it.

    So I pretty much told her no.  I won't replace that affirmation of mine with her affirmation.  That if we were going to get anywhere I would rather learn to accept reality and learn to value myself beyond my outward appearance.

    She didn't agree, but on this one I won't budge.  I feel much much better when I say what I say.  It helps.  Because looks aren't everything.

    However she then asked me to tell her what things I could think of that made me worthwhile. 

    And I couldn't really think of anything.

    So that's my homework.  But I can't think of anything. 

    I might feel I am worthwhile but I can't name reasons why that is so, anything I think of can be argued against in my own mind.  And worst part is I have been on this forum so long that the arguments against anything I can think of, well I imagine certain members on here ripping apart whatever thing I manage to find to like about myself or value about myself.

    It's weird.  I can put certain members into that role because I know they don't think much of me, and so they become this battering force of "the argument against" in my own head.

    Anyway fuck it.  I am worth something.  I feel I am. I don't know why, anything I can do someone can do better, so on that logical cold way that things like oaps being killed to save tax payers money sits, I am worth nothing. 

    But on my silly emotional level I must be worth something.  At least to me.  I am worth something to me.

    But I doubt I can think of anything to take back to her. 


    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #493 - May 24, 2012, 10:02 AM

    Berbs, that is great news!

    It's all baby-steps, and it's good you told your therapist what is bite-sized enough for you to work on at the moment.

    I started with the same thing you are talking about, saying to myself in the mirror for example that I am not ugly, or when I'd start to think I hate myself I hate myself I hate myself to instead go, "No, I don't hate myself". But it's baby steps, it's hard work combatting those negative self-talk and saying, "No, I'm not," is better than saying, "I'm blah blah blah *hate myself*" type thoughts.

    It's gone on from there where sometimes I can say, "You know what, you're alright looking," and, "You know what, you're ok as a person." Sometimes. It's hard work though, really hard work, and the fact that you are doing it is awesome! Shows how strong you are as those thought patterns are really hard to overcome.

     far away hug You are strong, that is one of the qualities that makes you a worthwhile person. You are one strong woman who has made a good life for yourself and your kids and who has overcome so much to get where you are now.
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #494 - May 24, 2012, 10:28 AM

    Yea.  It is hard work lol, because it's so frequent.  In this morning I've already had this argument twice in my head and I haven't even had to get ready to leave the house yet, that will be harder but I'm gonna do it.  Get ready infront a mirror and just fight back all the negativity that usually overwhelms me.

    I just don't want to be the one hating me anymore.  No one has punished me more than me in recent years, even when i didn't need to be punishing myself I was.  Almost killing myself because I hate myself.  I would never ever hate another person to this level, have more understanding for my ex husband than i ever have for myself.  That's twisted and I'm just not going to allow myself to be this way anymore.

    Glad to hear it's been working for you, and hopefully I will get to a day where I can say something positive in place of it too hugs


    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #495 - May 24, 2012, 11:02 AM

     far away hug Yep, you are doing well Berbs, we'll all get there one day one step at a time, it's a struggle but worth it.

    Sometimes I get really down about it 'cause it just seems never ending, but I just have to think "No, it's just one step at a time, Rome wasn't built in a day, and neither will me feeling ok about myself." I find thinking about my kids and how would I react if someone talked to them the way I talk to myself really puts things in perspective.

    We can be our own worst enemies, but I guess it takes time and probably years of practice of positive self-talk to erode those layers of self-hate that we've been conditioned to see ourselves as.

    Proud of you for trying and when it gets tough don't give up 'cause considering everything else you've been able to do and achieved, you can beat this too!  Afro

    I'm in your cheering squad! Go Berbs! Afro dance
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #496 - May 24, 2012, 11:11 AM

    far away hug Yep, you are doing well Berbs, we'll all get there one day one step at a time, it's a struggle but worth it.

    Sometimes I get really down about it 'cause it just seems never ending, but I just have to think "No, it's just one step at a time, Rome wasn't built in a day, and neither will me feeling ok about myself." I find thinking about my kids and how would I react if someone talked to them the way I talk to myself really puts things in perspective.

    We can be our own worst enemies, but I guess it takes time and probably years of practice of positive self-talk to erode those layers of self-hate that we've been conditioned to see ourselves as.

    Proud of you for trying and when it gets tough don't give up 'cause considering everything else you've been able to do and achieved, you can beat this too!  Afro

    I'm in your cheering squad! Go Berbs! Afro dance


    yes exactly, and I've only ever really been halfheartedly fighting my negative view of myself.  Never really felt as fucking determined as I am now to get over the voice in my head.  But I am now.

    If I feel myself flaking I will just come back here and read my own words to me today.  To not be the one hating me.  Let others hate me if need be, but me, no I won't join in that bandwagon anymore.  I am worth more, to me, to my friends, to my children. 

    Thanks da_dude hugs


    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #497 - May 24, 2012, 03:18 PM

    Da_Dude said a very wise thing it takes years to erode or polish away the the dent and scars inflicted on us by life. I have been at it a good many years and still sometimes look in the mirror and wonder who I am. I certainly can't see my body. My head injury psychiatrist once asked  me why I was so hard on myself. I was so angry at him. I know I have to push myself to the limit most the time or I'll simply give up..THAT IS WHY!!!  DAH!! I think how can I stop? I think of the people who don't stop trying because I don't stop trying. But yes I admit to the times I lay on the floor and cry because I hurt so bad and how often I sleep in my car because I'm to tired to drive home from work.

    So if you need to fake yourself out sometimes to get through the day that is okay (for now). Maybe you you can't admit it (yet). Start some place. It seems like you have the pineapple compliment is awesome. There are few things as important as sweet on the inside.I've seen your picture you're physically beautiful but that will fade some day and that inner sweetness will always be there. Then when you're old and the wrinkles start to come you will remember how beautiful you were. LOL. Time is a funny thing. You are a caring person and you seem to put it in the right place in your life. So compliment yourself on that. Compassion is such a valuable quality. Seems like you're doing better with eating that is very encouraging to me.

    Count success  by the day or by minute if you need to. far away hug

    Always remember how far you've  come. yes

    See life as an adventure. dance

    You know there are people you might think really, really have it togather but even they have things they do to coop with stress and perceived shortcomings
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    If at first you succeed...try something harder.

    Failing isn't falling down. Failing is not getting back up again.
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #498 - May 24, 2012, 07:44 PM

    Da_Dude said a very wise thing it takes years to erode or polish away the the dent and scars inflicted on us by life. I have been at it a good many years and still sometimes look in the mirror and wonder who I am. I certainly can't see my body. My head injury psychiatrist once asked  me why I was so hard on myself. I was so angry at him. I know I have to push myself to the limit most the time or I'll simply give up..THAT IS WHY!!!  DAH!! I think how can I stop? I think of the people who don't stop trying because I don't stop trying. But yes I admit to the times I lay on the floor and cry because I hurt so bad and how often I sleep in my car because I'm to tired to drive home from work.


    hugs  Yea, no matter how much i fight it's struggle sometimes to get back up off that floor that i have been crying in, but like you said, its a push to the limit thing or give up and no matter how often i have thought I was ready to give up, I guess I never really was because I'm still here now.

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    So if you need to fake yourself out sometimes to get through the day that is okay (for now). Maybe you you can't admit it (yet). Start some place. It seems like you have the pineapple compliment is awesome. There are few things as important as sweet on the inside.I've seen your picture you're physically beautiful but that will fade some day and that inner sweetness will always be there. Then when you're old and the wrinkles start to come you will remember how beautiful you were. LOL. Time is a funny thing. You are a caring person and you seem to put it in the right place in your life. So compliment yourself on that. Compassion is such a valuable quality. Seems like you're doing better with eating that is very encouraging to me. 


    I already feel like I am there, pictures are not the real me, just angles and lighting and bullshit.  I always thought lately that maybe I felt ugly when i was younger when actually I wasn't, because its youth that is attractive so I keep being told.  I thought a look back on old pictures would make me feel that.

    My daughter got out some of my old pictures infront of someone I was dating recently and I really didn't want him to see them.  Because I hadn't seen them in ages myself, I generally avoid my old pictures since a lot of them are associated with bad memories.

    But he insisted he see some and I could see on his face, in his eyes, that he didn't like what he saw in those pictures.  he preferred the fake new and improved me.  Now I can't even look at those pictures I know he saw.  Whether I saw a look that wasn't there, whether it was in my head or not, it is nevertheless how I felt at that walk down memory lane and his perceived reaction.

    I doubt i will look back and ever believe I was beautiful and any stage in my life.

    But you know, that's ok too. 

    I'm alive, I'm breathing, I have 2 legs, 2 arms, my digits, almost my sanity, and that's about the best I can ask for.

    I'm working on being ok with who I am, not on believing something about me that I must make not matter at all to me.

    Thanks for the kind words though hugs

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    Count success  by the day or by minute if you need to. far away hug

    Always remember how far you've  come. yes

    See life as an adventure. dance


    You know there are people you might think really, really have it togather but even they have things they do to coop with stress and perceived shortcomings
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    I plan to.  I'm sort of fluctuating in mood right now.  Feeling the negative bullshit trying to take me over again today.  But I'm gonna try to find a movie to lose myself in right now. help keep the late evening depression away.

    hugs thanks lynna.

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
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     Reply #499 - June 09, 2012, 09:10 AM

    Been such a crappy week for me in spite of all of my previous optimism.
     
    It's half term and its back to breaking up fights and getting into fights with my son.

    I have been breaking up fist fights every single day since they broke up, even at 1 am when I was chilling downstairs I had to run upstairs and break up a fight and I wasn't fast enough and my eldest made my middle son bleed by punching him in the face.

    He slammed a remote control into my daughters face and made her teeth bleed the next day.

    then day before yesterday I had a fight with my son as he tried to attack me.  It wasn't nice, it's never nice.  He was calling me all sorts of names, telling me to go fuck myself, calling me a bitch, telling me there was nothing I could do to stop him.

    I lost it and started retaliating in what I was saying so he launched himself at me and we tussled for a bit.  He is heavier than me and pretty much the same height as me, maybe a couple of inches difference.

    I had my first anxiety attack dealing with him, heart racing, felt like I was going to puke under the pressure of it all, was shaking so bad I almost passed out, this happened after my brother pulled my son away from me and forced him to the ground in a police hold.  Cry

    My son got hurt as he went down but my brother was so angry with him for trying to fight me, his mum, and meant to hurt him as he pushed him down.

    I phoned the social workers, but what for, they again won't do anything to help.  Just telling me to keep doing what I am doing, which is clearly not working.

    Whenever there is a holiday and my son returns home from boarding school we go through these sort of scenes.  Hasn't been so bad in awhile, but I think recent contact with his dad has fucked him up again, fucked my other son up too.  Sick and tired of being forced to follow a contact order that is only adding to the destruction that is my family.

    Times like this I just want to die.  Seems like its never going to get better, my family is just headed downwards and I am too much of a shit parent to change it.  Haven't managed to so far, and my son is almost 14 now. 

    My other son is falling apart too, and that isn't getting any better because he feels bullied and attacked whenever his brother is around.

    Just one fucking nightmare day after another at this house.

    I'm escaping to do grocery shopping in a bit and leaving my bro with the 2 boys just to get a little air.  Feel so down right now.

    Hard to face myself in the mirror and see how ridiculous my whole life has been.  Feels like someone else could have done this job better and saved my children from the life I put them in.

    Someone tried to point out that I would be retired from this in 10 years.......yea I will, but how does that help me.  How does that really take away the regrets at how much I failed at this job?  I'm such a fucking failure it's a joke.

    So sick of this shit. 


    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #500 - June 09, 2012, 10:07 AM

    So sorry to read all this Berbs. It may seem to you that you're a failure as a parent, but really you're doing the best you can given the shitty circumstances. I cannot fathom why social services think it's a good idea to let your ex have access to your kids. It's only natural to feel despair, especially when your other children are starting to feel affected by it all.
    What is your eldest son like in school? Is he just as disruptive or does he 'get in line'?

    I don't have any wise words or helpful advice. I wish I did. Hope the grocery shopping helps you clear your head a little.

     far away hug

  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #501 - June 09, 2012, 10:20 AM

    I‘m typing this on my phone so itll be a short post.
    Berbs, you are an awesome mum, what you are going through with your son is not your fault, you are doing your best with a difficult situation, you are not to blame at all. The court fucked things up for your son via contact with your ex,  you‘ve worked so hard to be and do the best you can even though there is so much stacked against (like your ex and peer pressure/influence), in the face of all that you are still striving to handle the situation the best you can.
     You are an awesome mum  far away hug   far away hug far away hug

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     Reply #502 - June 09, 2012, 10:25 AM

    He is a bit better at school, he still get's restrained by teachers since he does kick off on occasion but his teacher said that in his 'house' he is the youngest and smallest so the other boys intimidate him too much for him to try too often.........for now anyway.  Come september there will be younger people on his 'house' (the kids are broken up into houses after classes, and cared for by staff that don't change, so they have consistency)

    His teacher already told social services that there was nothing I could do anymore to control the situation, that it takes more than one teacher to restrain him and I am just 1 parent, and not even the dad who might be stronger than me.  She told them they needed to provide support and they promised they would.

    Support being that something like the big buddy scheme should be set up to cover me on holidays since that is when things generally get the worst.

    But here we are again, another holiday in which they failed to organise extra help.

    I'm his designated carer, but what happens when I can't care for him?  I need to hire a carer and they are supposed to help me arrange that, and yet....nothing, as usual.

    Next month the summer holiday starts, 6 weeks he is home.  I don't know what I'm going to do :(  last year summer was horrific, I had to call the police so many times, I can't do a repeat.

    Thanks for caring anyway sir wankalot hugs


    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #503 - June 09, 2012, 10:26 AM

    It's not an easy situation with no simple fix but you still haven't given up. That makes you an amazing mum in my eyes. It is horrendous that you cant receive any help for this! It's no wonder you fall apart so much, that would be expected of anyone in your situation.
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #504 - June 09, 2012, 10:31 AM

    I‘m typing this on my phone so itll be a short post.
    Berbs, you are an awesome mum, what you are going through with your son is not your fault, you are doing your best with a difficult situation, you are not to blame at all. The court fucked things up for your son via contact with your ex,  you‘ve worked so hard to be and do the best you can even though there is so much stacked against (like your ex and peer pressure/influence), in the face of all that you are still striving to handle the situation the best you can.
     You are an awesome mum  far away hug   far away hug far away hug




    It is my fault da_dude.  I have been his main carer for years and years now.  and I fucked him up.  His dad did too, but I have so much I can be blamed for.

    my son hates me, both of them do now.  For years now my own child has been telling me to go and kill myself, and my middle son said the same thing to me the other day when he was angry because his brother had punched him and I didn't get there fast enough to stop it.  why?  because I'm selfish.  I knew they were awake, I could have sat outside their bedroom door like I have to most of the time but I chose to sit downstairs and have a glass of wine with a friend.  I knew they weren't asleep yet but I didn't stand guard like I was supposed to.  It was 1 am, 3 hours past their bed time.

    I should have known better.

    anyway whatever.  Really down again.

    Thanks for the kind words though hugs

    I'm headed out now.  Need the air and my bro is awake now so he can take over.

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #505 - June 09, 2012, 10:32 AM

    Second what Peruvian said Berbs.  far away hug

  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #506 - June 09, 2012, 10:35 AM

    Kids take so much for granted. They don't understand how tiring it is looking after them.
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #507 - June 09, 2012, 10:38 AM

    It's a toss up between having your child at home with you spending family time or him in a restrained environment where he cannot hurt you. Sometimes, the situation is that a person becomes too out of control to handle and even when you love them you can't do anything so you have to bite the bullet and let others care for him and visit him on occasions, you have to realize this does not mean that you don't love him anymore and would like an easy life for yourself. In fact its also better for him.
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #508 - June 09, 2012, 10:40 AM

    Getting on my computer now so can post properly. In the meantime enjoy the breather and  heres some far away hug
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #509 - June 09, 2012, 11:58 AM

    I feel so sorry for you Berbs I really do  hugs and if it was me I'd have to do something drastic if only for my own sanity if no-one elses.   I don't care if he's only 14, if he's my son or not or who's to blame for the way he is, he's a little shit and I wouldn't have him back in the house under any circumstances.  I would kick him out onto the streets and refuse to let him back in. Social Services would have to do something then.

    Sorry for sounding so harsh but that's what I'd do.   Cry

    "The greatest general is not the one who can take the most cities or spill the most blood. The greatest general is the one who can take Heaven and Earth without waging the battle." ~ Sun Tzu

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