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  • Are all ‘houris’ female?
     OP - June 10, 2011, 08:29 PM

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    IT has traditionally been believed that good men who go to paradise will be rewarded with the beautiful women of paradise known as houris. Women throughout the centuries never thought of asking, ‘what about us?’

    But in this century of women, this question keeps coming up, even in the most conservative of circles. In several places in the Quran, where the blissful condition of the dwellers of paradise is described, mention is also made of houris. In Surah Al-Dukhan it is said, “We will pair them with large-eyed companions (44: 54).” In Surah Al-Tur, it is said, “They will be resting against pillows on couches arranged in rows. We will pair them up with beautiful companions with big, beautiful eyes (52:20).”

    In Surah Al-Rehman, the Quran says, “The houris will be protected in tents, whom neither humans nor jinns have touched before (55: 72).”

    According to Surah Al-Waqia among the blessings of paradise will be “…houris with beautiful eyes like hidden pearls” (56: 22).

    In the same surah, the Quran goes on to describe the conditions for the righteous in paradise: “With companions most refined; Whom We have created in the best of form; We made them virgin; loving, well-matched; For those on the right” (56: 34-38). Even though the word ‘virgin’ is most frequently applied to women, according to the Concise Oxford Dictionary, it is applicable to both males and females.

    In An Arabic-English Lexicon, Lane gives the definition of ‘hur’ or ‘hurun’, which is the plural form of haura, and can be both masculine as well as feminine. ‘Hawar’ means, “the intense whiteness of the white of the eye and intense blackness of the black of the eye, with intense whiteness or fairness of the rest of the person”. ‘Ahwariyyun’ means “a man, white or fair of the towns or villages”. The word ‘hawariyyun’ means, “those who whiten clothes etc. by washing and beating them”. Or, “one who is freed and cleared from every vice, fault or defect”, or, “a thing that is pure and unsullied”.

    According to Maulana Umar Ahmed Usmani, it is a misconception that hurun means the females of paradise who will be reserved for good men. He says that ‘hur’ or ‘hurun’ is the plural of both ‘ahwaro’, which is the masculine form as well as ‘haurao’, which is feminine. It means both pure males and pure females. He says that basically the word ‘hurun’ means white.

    ‘Alhawarriyat’ means the women of the towns and cities who are comparatively fairer. The word ‘al-hawariyyun’ has also been used in the Quran to refer to the disciples of Jesus, who used to wash clothes white. By whiteness here is also meant the purity of their personalities or souls.

    Another word in the Quran, which has been widely misinterpreted, especially in Urdu translations and commentaries, is ‘zauj’, whose plural is ‘azwaj’. In Arabic this word means “a pair” or “one of a pair”, or “a spouse” (36:36). In Urdu, this word has come to refer to wives only. Sometimes it can also mean “various kinds”, or “variety”. Since ‘zauj’ is also used to refer to the female partner, the wives of the Prophet (PBUH) are referred to as ‘Azwaj-i-Mutaharrat’, or pure companions.

    In the Quran when mention is made of those who will go to paradise, it is stated, ‘Wa lahum fiha azwajum mutaharratun’ (2:25).

    ‘Hum’ is a masculine preposition, but this is used as a common gender and is the manner of address adopted throughout the Quran. It actually means, “And for them will be pure companions”. Pick up any Urdu translation of the Quran and you find something like, “And for them will be pure wives”, and sometimes, “pure women”, assuming that only men will go to paradise and be rewarded with pure and beautiful wives or women.

    There is also the belief that good wives here will be transformed into the women of paradise for the benefit of good men. In the case of ‘zauj’, the word itself belongs to the group of words which come under the heading of ‘ghair zawil uqool’, meaning “those without intelligence”. For the plural of this group, the grammatical female form is used.

    There are numerous examples in history and the Quran of women who will go to paradise. One example is that of Hazrat Aasiya, the wife of Pharaoh. She was an extremely pious woman and did not support her husband in his cruelty, false pride and shirk. When it became clear to him that she was a staunch believer in one God and would never accept him as her god, he punished and tortured her.

    At this she prayed, “O my Lord, make for me a house near You in Paradise and save me from Pharaoh and his deeds and save me from the people who are unjust” (66: 11). At this God showed her her heavenly abode and she became blissful. One wonders what the reward for Bibi Aasiya would be: would she be turned into a houri for some man’s pleasure, or would she be rewarded with pure companions, just like the male dwellers of paradise?

    Since loneliness is a blight and no one likes to be alone for a long period, those who are successful will be provided with companions for their eternal life in paradise. Thus houris and azwaj in the Quran refer to the pure, chaste and beautiful companions that both good men, as well as good women, will be rewarded with, without discrimination.

    http://www.dawn.com/2011/06/10/are-all-houris-female.html

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  • Re: Are all ‘houris’ female?
     Reply #1 - June 10, 2011, 09:57 PM

     Cheesy

    The comments are interesting...

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    t’s against the nature of a woman to desire multiple men. Does any husband want to share her wife with other men in this world? Allah has created men and women differently.
    Aasiya (RA) will be married to the best of creations Prophet Muhammad (SAW).
    If we start translating the Quran according to the dictionaries then it will lead us all astray. For e.g. the mean of “Salah” is to move the hips. What’s next?


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    If her earthly husband also qualifies for entry in heaven, he will be the only male companion she will have there. However, she will be made the head of maidens or houris her male companion is blessed with. Girls in this world often dream about becoming queens or princesses, but the actual reward for a practicing Muslimah is much higher than that in afterlife. Lastly, as for Aasia the wife of pharoah, since her husband claimed godhead and thus doomed to hell, she will have the honour of being blessed eternal companionship of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). Can a chaste woman ask anything more than that? Apart from Aasia, mother of Jesus (pbuh), Hazrat Maryam or Mary, will also be blessed with the same reward.

     

    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

    Muslim women sure have their work cut out for them.




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  • Re: Are all ?houris? female?
     Reply #2 - June 10, 2011, 10:04 PM

    WTF!  Lmao



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  • Re: Are all ‘houris’ female?
     Reply #3 - June 10, 2011, 10:24 PM

    It's the perfect way to keep Muslim women quiet... if they start questioning why the heck they should bother being such good submissive Muslim women, just say "What??!! You don't want to be married to the best man in all the universe for all eternity, along with every other good Muslim woman? What's wrong with you? Don't you like the Prophet? What kind of Muslim are you?" It's a catch-22 for Muslim women. Good thing they're raised to never question authority, especially male authority whether it's their father, brother, husband, mullah or "prophet". Even if any of them start having questions, they're perfectly trapped in a system that exploits their very need to belong to that system.

    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: Are all ?houris? female?
     Reply #4 - June 10, 2011, 10:33 PM


    Look at the breathlessness with which they pimp all women to Mo.

    So much sexual neurosis, slavishness, subservience, degradation.

    War booty - woman-stealing - sexual slavery.

    Almost leaves you lost for words doesn't it.




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    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Are all ?houris? female?
     Reply #5 - June 10, 2011, 10:34 PM

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    It’s against the nature of a woman to desire multiple men. Does any husband want to share her wife with other men in this world? Allah has created men and women differently.


    Oh brother. You sorry, sad, poor bastard.


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Are all ‘houris’ female?
     Reply #6 - June 10, 2011, 10:36 PM

    I wonder if the term "houris" has anything to do with the German "Huren", the Dutch "Hoeren" and the English "whores", all meaning prostitutes. Allah is providing prostitutes for good muslims?

    Religion is organized superstition
  • Re: Are all ?houris? female?
     Reply #7 - June 10, 2011, 10:43 PM

    Oh brother. You sorry, sad, poor bastard.


     Cheesy

    Isn't it interesting... the typical Muslim male (and Muslim female) mentality along gender roles goes like this:

    -All men are "by nature" polygynous and heterosexual
    -All women are "by nature" monogamous and heterosexual
    -All men can't stand sharing their women thus polygyny is okay but polyandry is not
    -All women are okay with sharing their men thus polygyny is okay but polyandry is not
    -If a woman doesn't like sharing her man, too fuckin bad, she has to suck it up for all eternity (literally, metaphorically, etc.) It's not like she's allowed to have her own opinion anyway.
    -Allah creates gender roles and then is bound by them <== this one is most precious Cheesy

    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: Are all ?houris? female?
     Reply #8 - June 10, 2011, 10:51 PM


    Its makes Islam seem like a gigantic trick to enforce sexual profligacy for men and sexual slavery and oppression for women.

    Men can have endless desires and fulfill them in a religious context. Women are just meat to be fucked and even to have desire itself is not just against God but against 'nature'.

    If it was against nature why do women have desire, you misogynistic shithouses? Same with the Catholic Madonna / Whore complex, but at least that has been deconstucted and its power made to recede.

    Its just a gigantic, horrible con-trick to bully women into sexual submission, deny their desires, sexuality and free will, and make men's sexual domination impregnable at the dagger point of Allah. Fucking corrupt, sadistic, hateful brutes.


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Are all ?houris? female?
     Reply #9 - June 10, 2011, 11:04 PM

    How foolish are you Billy.  The wife has a great honor, greater than all the houri.  She is the first one poked at the gang bang. 

    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: Are all ?houris? female?
     Reply #10 - June 10, 2011, 11:10 PM


    I fear that fella would have a heart attack too, with the shock of it if he really knew what and who his wife fantasised about and desired, multiple men and then some.

    You can control someones body if you bind them hard enough in the structures of rigid Islam (and any orthodox hyper-misogynist religion), but their minds and imaginations stay free.



    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Are all ?houris? female?
     Reply #11 - June 10, 2011, 11:12 PM

    Same with the Catholic Madonna / Whore complex, but at least that has been deconstucted and its power made to recede.


    Yeah and that took a long time and it's still around in spades in a lot of people's minds. Thus the widespread dichotomy between sexually active men as studs/players/macho and sexually active women as sluts/damaged/impure. And Islam has plenty of that too... the quran is obsessed with making sure the "believing" women and the "pious" women are seen as entirely different creatures than all other women. Thus, hijabis consider themselves morally superior to non-hijabis and muslims in general consider muslims to be morally superior to non-muslims, especially when it comes to the regulation and control over women's sexuality. Thus you can have a woman politician from Kuwait advocating for legalizing female sex slavery, because in her mind, in accordance with Islam's teachings, female sex slaves are not equal to pious women, or muslims in general. Islam is like that Animal Farm ideology "Everyone is equal, but some are more equal than others."

    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: Are all ?houris? female?
     Reply #12 - June 10, 2011, 11:15 PM

    Its the divinity accorded to it that makes it so insidious and perverse. This is like a bat being used to bash women into self loathing, all courtesy of Allah. Not to mention the puritanism in this life, with promises to men of sexual excess in the next. When things are laid out in religious terms of such utter hypocrisy, it needs an insurrection.


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Are all ?houris? female?
     Reply #13 - June 10, 2011, 11:18 PM

    Yeah and that took a long time and it's still around in spades in a lot of people's minds. Thus the widespread dichotomy between sexually active men as studs/players/macho and sexually active women as sluts/damaged/impure.


    For sure. But the biggest obstacle to overcoming that was the edifice of centuries of Catholic (and other Christian) doctrine. The iron fist that religion provides is really, really insidious and scary. Once that was overcome through secularisation, those attitudes begin to dissipate and get challenged.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Are all ‘houris’ female?
     Reply #14 - June 10, 2011, 11:24 PM

    Yeah at least there's a choice, which some people are able to exercise and thus change occurs in societies with less religious fervor over time, unlike Muslim societies which are proud of being stuck in time.

    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: Are all ‘houris’ female?
     Reply #15 - June 11, 2011, 12:34 AM

    But yet women see it as liberating and full of choices!  mysmilie_977




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  • Re: Are all ?houris? female?
     Reply #16 - June 11, 2011, 01:05 AM

    omfg... my muslim seducers tried so friggin hard to get me
    married off to fulfill half of my deen.  The more I learned about
    jannah, the less appealing marriage was to me lol.  One moroccan
    who was in hot pursuit of me (he was 26  Cheesy )  told me he could
    be my only husband in jannah  because I would have his "water"
    in me, and no other man could put water in me besides him.
    I was like, fuck you! LMAO

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  • Re: Are all ?houris? female?
     Reply #17 - June 11, 2011, 01:26 AM


    I didn't realize Nilofar with alll her education at nilofar.ahmed58@gmail.com  coming from that redneck state of US of A goes to such a pathetic level to defend Quran  by saying  allah heaven is nothing more than whore house for men & women ., Men and women get companions? companions to do what?? Stupid people take  some silly parables of nonsense religious books and start defending them as if they are word of god..dog.. dog god whatever..

    here is that Pharaoh god from ancient Egypt..

     

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  • Re: Are all ?houris? female?
     Reply #18 - June 11, 2011, 01:59 AM

    Nice article. Thanks for posting.
  • Re: Are all ?houris? female?
     Reply #19 - June 11, 2011, 02:23 AM

    houris is from the word whores Tongue

    yes they are all female Cheesy

    hmm just realised it could be male too Tongue but meh still females lol

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