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  • Why are muslims obsessed with conspiracy thoeries?
     OP - June 18, 2011, 03:10 PM
    Okay, that might be pushing it, but still..

    Almost every muslim I've had discussion brings in conspiracy theories, crime rates in UK, etc. instead of discussing the issue.

    Even their imams preach this kind of shit (ie anti west propaganda). Is this some sort of defence mechanism they use to dodge

    the issues?


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  • Re: Why are muslims obsessed with conspiracy thoeries?
     Reply #1 - June 18, 2011, 03:19 PM
    Quote
    Is this some sort of defence mechanism they use to dodge the issues?


    Well of course, their arguments and defenses regarding the issues are futile and baseless, so what better way to avoid it than to bring in the infamous trick in the old book; conspiracy theories?
  • Re: Why are muslims obsessed with conspiracy thoeries?
     Reply #2 - June 18, 2011, 03:20 PM
    If Imams are preaching it then that's probly why muslims are repeating it.
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  • Re: Why are muslims obsessed with conspiracy thoeries?
     Reply #3 - June 18, 2011, 03:21 PM
    Was I just not a proper muslim?  I don't know.

    I am so not into conspiracy theories, I used to be a muslim, I feel like I failed lol.

    Also, some woman, non muslim, who I know is a conspiracy theorist, so its not just muslims, but yea, most that I knew believed so much bullshit.

    I really feel like I was never a proper muslim.
    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Why are muslims obsessed with conspiracy thoeries?
     Reply #4 - June 18, 2011, 03:25 PM
    Quote from: crazyislam on June 18, 2011, 03:10 PM
    Okay, that might be pushing it, but still..

    Almost every muslim I've had discussion brings in conspiracy theories, crime rates in UK, etc. instead of discussing the issue.

    Even their imams preach this kind of shit (ie anti west propaganda). Is this some sort of defence mechanism they use to dodge

    the issues?

    Why? To compensate for their inferiority complex and low self-esteem.
    "Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
    - Robert Louis Stevenson
  • Re: Why are muslims obsessed with conspiracy thoeries?
     Reply #5 - June 18, 2011, 03:27 PM
    I have a more important question-- why are all these homosexuals so obsessed with sucking my cock?

    http://www.theonion.com/articles/why-do-all-these-homosexuals-keep-sucking-my-cock,11150/
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  • Re: Why are muslims obsessed with conspiracy thoeries?
     Reply #6 - June 18, 2011, 03:29 PM
    Muslims think that all their problems in their countries are from outside influence or conspiracy against them. Some of them see everything from music to movies as being made specifically to target their youth and "corrupt" them.
  • Re: Why are muslims obsessed with conspiracy thoeries?
     Reply #7 - June 18, 2011, 03:42 PM
    Quote from: Zaiba on June 18, 2011, 03:19 PM
    Well of course, their arguments and defenses regarding the issues are futile and baseless, so what better way to avoid it than to bring in the infamous trick in the old book; conspiracy theories?


    That's what I thought.

    Quote from: BerberElla on June 18, 2011, 03:21 PM
    Was I just not a proper muslim?  I don't know.

    I am so not into conspiracy theories, I used to be a muslim, I feel like I failed lol.

    Also, some woman, non muslim, who I know is a conspiracy theorist, so its not just muslims, but yea, most that I knew believed so much bullshit.

    I really feel like I was never a proper muslim.


    I know there are others who believe in this crazy stuff. Like the 9/11 truthers for instance. But what I find amusing is that almost all muslims I've had discussions with echo this 'everything-is-a-zionist/west-conspiracy-against-muslims' line like a freaking parrot. I've never seen that even with christian fundies (believe me, them lot are batshit crazy).

    Quote from: olweasel on June 18, 2011, 03:25 PM
    Why? To compensate for their inferiority complex and low self-esteem.


    More precisely put.

    Quote from: Ifrit on June 18, 2011, 03:29 PM
    Muslims think that all their problems in their countries are from outside influence or conspiracy against them. Some of them see everything from music to movies as being made specifically to target their youth and "corrupt" them.


    Yeah this is exactly what I'm talking about, kinda surprised how from moderates to fundies believe this.


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  • Re: Why are muslims obsessed with conspiracy thoeries?
     Reply #8 - June 18, 2011, 03:51 PM
    I think it's arrogant of them to think that every goddamn living being that is not Muslim in this world is doing something to hurt Islam/Muslims. Some of them actually believes that all scientists 'know' that Islam is the truth and that they're only denying the existence of God because they're too proud.

    I don't think they understand what atheism is. You'd think that smart people like those would choose the "right" path if they actually believed in it. I actually had a conversation with some of my friends about this.
  • Re: Why are muslims obsessed with conspiracy thoeries?
     Reply #9 - June 18, 2011, 03:54 PM
    It all comes down to not taking responsiblity for their own shortcomings.
  • Re: Why are muslims obsessed with conspiracy thoeries?
     Reply #10 - June 18, 2011, 03:57 PM
    Every question that has been and will be asked: Jews.
    "I know where I'm going and I know the truth, and I don't have to be what you want me to be. I'm free to be what I want."
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  • Re: Why are muslims obsessed with conspiracy thoeries?
     Reply #11 - June 18, 2011, 04:00 PM
    Islam is a conspiracy theory. Wink
    "Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
    - Robert Louis Stevenson
  • Re: Why are muslims obsessed with conspiracy thoeries?
     Reply #12 - June 18, 2011, 04:18 PM
    The only way to hold on to a false model of reality is to deny reality, pretending to yourself that the world is conspiring against your model is a good way to do that.
    I don't come here any more due to unfair moderation.
    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=30785
  • Re: Why are muslims obsessed with conspiracy thoeries?
     Reply #13 - June 18, 2011, 05:05 PM
    Oh no  015

    My dad loves his conspiracy theories.  wacko  Cheesy
    Rather be forgotten than remembered for giving in.
  • Re: Why are muslims obsessed with conspiracy thoeries?
     Reply #14 - June 18, 2011, 05:06 PM
    The biggest one to date? That the Jews had part to do with 9/11?

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  • Re: Why are muslims obsessed with conspiracy thoeries?
     Reply #15 - June 18, 2011, 05:07 PM
    Wow, your dad believes that?


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  • Re: Why are muslims obsessed with conspiracy thoeries?
     Reply #16 - June 18, 2011, 05:08 PM


    Many Muslims too often have an over-inflated sense of the importance of Islam. There are quite a few reasons for this, but one of the reasons is rooted in Islam's self-appointed image as the 'final message', the culmination of humanity, the greatest, most supreme, most super-duper, most superior, and the imperialistic mission and sense of destiny and triumphalism over the fiendish non believers etc etc etc, you know the rest.

    The gap between this delusional self regard and reality is so immense, such an intergalactic abyss of space between self-perception and reality, that the only way to deal with the cognitive dissonance, is to retreat, in foetal position in the corner of the room, and make excuses, conspiracy theories and everything else, to account for the dissonance between pompous self-image and reality.

    The truth is paralysing and crippling. And so they retreat into fantasy, and conspiracy, and basically reinforce the condition with a culture of denial and delusion and anger at others to blame for their condition. The conspiracy and delusion is caused by the condition, and the condition causes delusion and conspiracy. So it is a constant loop that perpetuates itself - it keeps chasing its own tail.


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  • Re: Why are muslims obsessed with conspiracy thoeries?
     Reply #17 - June 18, 2011, 05:11 PM
    Quote from: crazyislam on June 18, 2011, 05:07 PM
    Wow, your dad believes that?


    I think he did at first. Thought the Jews framed them.   wacko

    Thankfully, I don't think he believes that anymore... it was probably just an initial shock thing. "No way muslims could do this"
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  • Re: Why are muslims obsessed with conspiracy thoeries?
     Reply #18 - June 18, 2011, 05:16 PM
    Quote from: hopeintheair on June 18, 2011, 05:11 PM

    Thankfully, I don't think he believes that anymore... it was probably just an initial shock thing. "No way muslims could do this"


    that was basically the reaction of everyone here
  • Re: Why are muslims obsessed with conspiracy thoeries?
     Reply #19 - June 18, 2011, 05:24 PM
    Quote from: billy on June 18, 2011, 05:08 PM
    The truth is paralysing and crippling. And so they retreat into fantasy, and conspiracy, and basically reinforce the condition with a culture of denial and delusion and anger at others to blame for their condition.

    But ultimately everything happens because Allah wills it, does it not?
  • Re: Why are muslims obsessed with conspiracy thoeries?
     Reply #20 - June 18, 2011, 05:48 PM
    Quote from: billy on June 18, 2011, 05:08 PM
    Many Muslims too often have an over-inflated sense of the importance of Islam. There are quite a few reasons for this, but one of the reasons is rooted in Islam's self-appointed image as the 'final message', the culmination of humanity, the greatest, most supreme, most super-duper, most superior, and the imperialistic mission and sense of destiny and triumphalism over the fiendish non believers etc etc etc, you know the rest.

    The gap between this delusional self regard and reality is so immense, such an intergalactic abyss of space between self-perception and reality, that the only way to deal with the cognitive dissonance, is to retreat

    "Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
    - Robert Louis Stevenson
  • Re: Why are muslims obsessed with conspiracy thoeries?
     Reply #21 - June 18, 2011, 10:14 PM
    Quote from: crazyislam on June 18, 2011, 03:10 PM
    Is this some sort of defence mechanism they use to dodge


    Of course it is!

    Quote from: crazyislam on June 18, 2011, 03:42 PM
    I know there are others who believe in this crazy stuff. Like the 9/11 truthers for instance. But what I find amusing is that almost all muslims I've had discussions with echo this 'everything-is-a-zionist/west-conspiracy-against-muslims' line like a freaking parrot. I've never seen that even with christian fundies (believe me, them lot are batshit crazy).


    Some more:
    - Armstrong came back from the moon and became a Muslim because he saw the cracked in the moon when it was "split in half"
    - big skeletons found (fake pictures) proving people were giants before
    - Jews are the cause of all economic issues
    - Oh and all the miracles like Allah being written on a tomatoes to a spud to entire verses in forests!
    - Also this:


    The reason is that Islam is so illogically bad that the only thing that could possibly back it up is all forms of cognitive bias. Indoctrinated Muslims will do anything to support their belief as it is important to them emotionally to not be wrong, even if it has to be irrational. That's what indoctrination does to people who aren't allowed to have logical and rational spectacles in life because Islam forbids it.
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  • Re: Why are muslims obsessed with conspiracy thoeries?
     Reply #22 - June 19, 2011, 12:10 AM
    HO, that's just as crazy as seeing Jesus in a waffle.  Cheesy

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  • Re: Why are muslims obsessed with conspiracy thoeries?
     Reply #23 - June 19, 2011, 01:03 AM
    I think its a great way to avoid the issue of fundamentalism within Islam , I guess the whole 'us' versus 'them' unifies them . 
    "its fashionable to be an ex Muslim these days"
  • Re: Why are muslims obsessed with conspiracy thoeries?
     Reply #24 - June 19, 2011, 01:28 AM
    Quote from: BerberElla on June 18, 2011, 03:21 PM
    Was I just not a proper muslim?  I don't know.

    I am so not into conspiracy theories, I used to be a muslim, I feel like I failed lol.

    Also, some woman, non muslim, who I know is a conspiracy theorist, so its not just muslims, but yea, most that I knew believed so much bullshit.

    I really feel like I was never a proper muslim.

    conspiracy theorists are everywhere not only in those who follow Islam.   Those who are politically  active and use religion in politics usually spread/follow these conspiracy theories  and in Islam you have politics in every home as the brain get trained since the age of 3 or so., Islam brain washed guy  will start blaming juice.. pagans.. hindus.. americans  and every other guy who allows freedom of religion. It is interesting to note such politically active intellectual Muslim who often act as socialists do not blame for eg.. communists or  totalitarian regimes.
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  • Re: Why are muslims obsessed with conspiracy thoeries?
     Reply #25 - June 19, 2011, 01:34 AM
    Quote from: crazyislam on June 18, 2011, 03:10 PM
    Okay, that might be pushing it, but still..

    Almost every muslim I've had discussion brings in conspiracy theories, crime rates in UK, etc. instead of discussing the issue.

    Even their imams preach this kind of shit (ie anti west propaganda). Is this some sort of defence mechanism they use to dodge

    the issues?


    That is partly the reason

    The other reasons for this is nonmuslims are out to get Muslims. This is also an attempt to fool nonmuslims into believing Islam is The Religion of Peace.
  • Re: Why are muslims obsessed with conspiracy thoeries?
     Reply #26 - June 19, 2011, 02:53 AM
    Pakistani's seem to be the people who are most obsessed with conspiracy theories!
  • Re: Why are muslims obsessed with conspiracy thoeries?
     Reply #27 - June 19, 2011, 04:13 AM
    My brother believes that Jews have a unit in the mosad that spreads lies about Islam in the internet. He also believes that music videos and movies are targeted towards muslim women to "corrupt" them. I can't handle this anymore. It's like girls are stupid and will be fooled by westernization. How long will it be before I like being a girl,I wonder?
  • Re: Why are muslims obsessed with conspiracy thoeries?
     Reply #28 - June 19, 2011, 04:25 AM

    Quote from: -Tmp- on June 19, 2011, 02:53 AM
    Pakistani's seem to be the people who are most obsessed with conspiracy theories!


    Yeah I agree. You could find shitloads of such crazy threads in their forums.

    Quote from: whyme89 on June 19, 2011, 04:13 AM
    My brother believes that Jews have a unit in the mosad that spreads lies about Islam in the internet. He also believes that music videos and movies are targeted towards muslim women to "corrupt" them. I can't handle this anymore. It's like girls are stupid and will be fooled by westernization. How long will it be before I like being a girl,I wonder?


    And it's hard to convince them how crazy this stuff is. Must be hard for you.  lipsrsealed


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  • Re: Why are muslims obsessed with conspiracy thoeries?
     Reply #29 - June 19, 2011, 08:57 AM
    Quote from: Kenan on June 18, 2011, 05:24 PM
    But ultimately everything happens because Allah wills it, does it not?


    Supposedly, but that would mean that Allah had been lying to them, or was tricking them, or, even worse (if they still can't contemplate that he does not exist), that he is an impotent little nasty blowhard, a psychotic version of the Wizard of Oz, standing behind that curtain, pulling levers to frighten and terrify his minions into obedience to him.
    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


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