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 Topic: Ex-musilim Womens view's on the burqa, hijab ect

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  • Ex-musilim Womens view's on the burqa, hijab ect
     OP - July 26, 2011, 08:54 AM

    Hello Everyone
    Im a 17 year old student and have chosen to do my drama assignment about the plight of muslim women.
    I have been reading many of these posts and I must say I couldn't have more compassion for you! It is horrible what some of you have been through and I hope you have got through okay.

    I was wondering if i could gather ex-muslim womens veiw's on the burqa, hijab ect to be incorporated in my monologue?
    I feel the words should not come from my mouth but the mouths of people whom have been through Islam and have a real understanding on the topic.

    Thank you so much and I hope for all the best!
  • Re: Ex-musilim Womens view's on the burqa, hijab ect
     Reply #1 - July 27, 2011, 09:02 AM

    pleaseeee reply someone?
    just a general opinion, rant, anything Smiley
  • Re: Ex-musilim Womens view's on the burqa, hijab ect
     Reply #2 - July 27, 2011, 09:50 AM

    hello  Smiley

    views on hijab ..hot , degrading , stupid......running out of words lol

    "its fashionable to be an ex Muslim these days"
  • Re: Ex-musilim Womens view's on the burqa, hijab ect
     Reply #3 - July 27, 2011, 11:18 AM

    Thank you Smiley
    would you be able to elaborate?
    your experience with the burqa, ever been forced to wear it and do people, both muslim and non-muslm treat you differently with/without it on?
  • Re: Ex-musilim Womens view's on the burqa, hijab ect
     Reply #4 - July 27, 2011, 11:51 AM

    Why is everyone interested in women, how come no one wants to ask us men for our views on circumcision.

    Yeah an I am super ugly, I can't even beat my chest am too skinny and when I roaaar to attract women, they laugh at me, because it sounds like a girl screaming. I can't even attract any bitches!  Cry

  • Re: Ex-musilim Womens view's on the burqa, hijab ect
     Reply #5 - July 27, 2011, 12:05 PM

    Umm I've been thinking about this thread since yesterday, and have been collecting my thoughts in regards to the burqa and hijab. Personally, I have always considered this form of covering as a form of oppression. Such an intense form of oppression that does not only control a woman's clothing but also her voice of expression. All women may not allow their outer covering to cover their inner soul, and thence see this as a form of liberation for them because it allows them the platform to voice their thoughts without being judged by the way they look.

    But amongst this popular argument in the west, people forget about those silenced women of the remote uneducated countries were they haven't had the choice to grow their own voice, let alone express it. If I ever am against this oppressive practice it is not for the women of the west, nor is it of the women who are exposed to the western lifestyle even if they are living or are from non western countries, because at the very least they are aware of another world. My heart cries out for the millions of women who have never seen life without the black cloth that this oppressive religion has thrown over them.

    On a lighter note, it is reassuring to see women personalising their burqas and hijabs, even though it is forced upon them, and although they are illusioned to be believe that is their choice. My personal experience of a burqa has only ever been in the four walls of a mosque. Whereas I have worn the hijab on two different occasions in my life. The first time I was forced to wear the hijab when I was 11 for a year when I started secondary school. It was a terribly demeaning experience, and I hated everything about it. It also was one of the reasons why I was bullied at school, one of the reasons why I had no confidence in myself, one of the reasons why I had no friends.

    Unfortunately the second time was my own choice, it was for a year again and this was all because of the effect that going on a Umrah had on me. This time when I stepped outside my house with a hijab on, I felt liberated, I felt like I hadn't lived my life all along, I had felt as if I was safe within the grasp of Allah's rahma. Fuck I feel so cringey typing all this out. But that's how I had felt at the time, wearing the hijab had given me my identity, the hijab gave me my confidence, it gave me meaning to life, and I could never have imagined anything beyond Islam. Spoke too soon, and before you know my world came crumbling down when I began looking into Islam and it's way of life, I read the Qu'ran and Hadith in a whole new light, all because the A levels I was doing forced me to question my own beliefs, which I am ever so grateful for.

    Hope this is detailed enough for you LOL.
  • Re: Ex-musilim Womens view's on the burqa, hijab ect
     Reply #6 - July 27, 2011, 12:13 PM

    -

    "Between stimulus and response there is a space. In that space is our power to choose our response. In our response lies our growth and our freedom." - Viktor E. Frankl

    'Life is just the extreme expression of complex chemistry' - Neil deGrasse Tyson
  • Re: Ex-musilim Womens view's on the burqa, hijab ect
     Reply #7 - July 27, 2011, 12:21 PM



     It 'puts you in your place' - 'you are a woman, you are less, you have to be mindful YOU ARE A WOMAN!'

    You are a woman, you are a woman you are woman!

    The hijab is a constant reminder that you're a woman, 

    Zee... you are a brutal person utterly devoid of any sympathy towards hijab  dear stardust..  lol..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Ex-musilim Womens view's on the burqa, hijab ect
     Reply #8 - July 27, 2011, 12:34 PM

    Zee... you are a brutal person utterly devoid of any sympathy towards hijab  dear stardust..  lol..


    -



    "Between stimulus and response there is a space. In that space is our power to choose our response. In our response lies our growth and our freedom." - Viktor E. Frankl

    'Life is just the extreme expression of complex chemistry' - Neil deGrasse Tyson
  • Re: Ex-musilim Womens view's on the burqa, hijab ect
     Reply #9 - July 27, 2011, 12:35 PM

    and i didnt sleep much last night, so excuse my lack of sense....

    "Between stimulus and response there is a space. In that space is our power to choose our response. In our response lies our growth and our freedom." - Viktor E. Frankl

    'Life is just the extreme expression of complex chemistry' - Neil deGrasse Tyson
  • Re: Ex-musilim Womens view's on the burqa, hijab ect
     Reply #10 - July 27, 2011, 12:38 PM

    I wrote so much shit, so much personal fucking painful shit and no one even took any interest in it?! FFS.

    [/rant]
  • Re: Ex-musilim Womens view's on the burqa, hijab ect
     Reply #11 - July 27, 2011, 12:49 PM

    bleep

    "Between stimulus and response there is a space. In that space is our power to choose our response. In our response lies our growth and our freedom." - Viktor E. Frankl

    'Life is just the extreme expression of complex chemistry' - Neil deGrasse Tyson
  • Re: Ex-musilim Womens view's on the burqa, hijab ect
     Reply #12 - July 27, 2011, 01:11 PM

    I care Zaiba!!  far away hug *continues to work on 100 reasons no hijab video*

    ***~Church is where bad people go to hide~***
  • Re: Ex-musilim Womens view's on the burqa, hijab ect
     Reply #13 - July 27, 2011, 01:48 PM

    LOL Sakura, I tend to get emotional when I don't get the response I need when I reveal hurtful truths of the past.
  • Re: Ex-musilim Womens view's on the burqa, hijab ect
     Reply #14 - July 27, 2011, 03:06 PM

    I wrote so much shit, so much personal fucking painful shit and no one even took any interest in it?! FFS.

    [/rant]

    tl:dr
  • Re: Ex-musilim Womens view's on the burqa, hijab ect
     Reply #15 - July 27, 2011, 03:08 PM

    Huh?

    What does that mean?
  • Re: Ex-musilim Womens view's on the burqa, hijab ect
     Reply #16 - July 27, 2011, 03:10 PM

    Alas, you shall never know. Or you could google it. Whatevz.
  • Re: Ex-musilim Womens view's on the burqa, hijab ect
     Reply #17 - July 27, 2011, 03:12 PM

    tl:dr


    Too long, didn't read? That's nice. Roll Eyes
  • Re: Ex-musilim Womens view's on the burqa, hijab ect
     Reply #18 - July 27, 2011, 03:22 PM

    Write less, say more. Then I will read. =D I can't handle large blocks of text because I will just get di... hmm, I was meant to make an appointment with the dentist today.
  • Re: Ex-musilim Womens view's on the burqa, hijab ect
     Reply #19 - July 27, 2011, 03:35 PM

    Thank you Smiley
    would you be able to elaborate?
    your experience with the burqa, ever been forced to wear it and do people, both muslim and non-muslm treat you differently with/without it on?


    I wasn't forced to wear it , I choose to wear it at the age of 15 , I was going to take it off but then I feared being judged by everyone at school . Every time I was on the tube or bus I would always get weird looks from people and the occasional harassment by some fucking bigots . Unfortunately Muslims always expected more from me because I wore the hijab , whenever I sinned I was get a lot of shit .

    "its fashionable to be an ex Muslim these days"
  • Re: Ex-musilim Womens view's on the burqa, hijab ect
     Reply #20 - July 27, 2011, 03:48 PM

    Write less, say more. Then I will read. =D I can't handle large blocks of text because I will just get di... hmm, I was meant to make an appointment with the dentist today.


    I would've but it takes a lot of words to get all forms of guilt and confessions out of one's system.
  • Re: Ex-musilim Womens view's on the burqa, hijab ect
     Reply #21 - July 27, 2011, 04:05 PM

    I'm not sure I'd be able to say that I hate it now but I certainly did before. A few people here know that after I decided I was no longer Muslim, I literally set that shit on fiyahhhh. It was so stifling and constricting in both the mental and physical sense.  It was something like a security blanket I held onto because I had no personality of my own. I had been wearing it since I was 10, so it's rather hard to hang on to a practice like that for most of your life and not attach some feeling to it. I felt obligated to hold onto Islam as the forefront of my character and the effects of feeling boxed into to do things a certain way were always there. That feeling stayed with me until I stopped wearing a few months ago but even as I wore it, I felt frustrated with having to. I would sit in my college dorm for days because I didn't feel like putting on what felt like a suit of armor and change my manner of speech and behavior so I could put on a good show for everyone, Muslim or not. Seriously, worst. Fashion accessory. Ever.

    I don't think the hijab or burka/chador should be utilized to tell everyone you pass that you're not a loose woman or have some self-respect or worn for the sake of curving some perv's sexual appetite. Your actions should speak louder than any piece of cotton and I think men should bear accountability for themselves rather than shoving their desires in potentiality onto women. Regarding others' right to wear it, I'm not against anyone willing to participate in wearing the hijab, I just don't think it's necessary to dig up BS claims about doing it without any negative reinforcement. Even if a male family member or a spouse doesn't force you into it, there are still hadith and Quranic verses about maintaining piety or reiterating hell's existence and the connection to it by disobeying Allah. Let's not forget the backlash in your own community, clucking tongues, disapproving stares and all. I'd be more satisfied if a woman replied "because I want to/this is how I worship my God/I'm a gangsta/that's what pimps do" when asked why she decided to wear it instead of repeatedly trying to convince folks that she wasn't obligated to do anything.

    "I know where I'm going and I know the truth, and I don't have to be what you want me to be. I'm free to be what I want."
    Muhammad Ali
  • Re: Ex-musilim Womens view's on the burqa, hijab ect
     Reply #22 - July 27, 2011, 06:20 PM

    I wore a headscarf out in public only once and it made me feel awkward and uncomfortable. On me it was frankly unbecoming and I did not feel like myself. I was trying quite hard at the time to 'believe', but wearing a scarf that day I felt like a terrible fake so I didn't do it again.

    I am thankful that I had the choice whether to wear it again or not and I am sorry for those women who resent having to put it on everyday.
  • Re: Ex-musilim Womens view's on the burqa, hijab ect
     Reply #23 - July 27, 2011, 07:28 PM

    I wrote so much shit, so much personal fucking painful shit and no one even took any interest in it?! FFS.

    [/rant]

    Lololol I just noticed you posed this half an hour after your lengthy post. You don't do yourselves any favours woman. Relax a little. The world isn't out to get you.
  • Re: Ex-musilim Womens view's on the burqa, hijab ect
     Reply #24 - July 28, 2011, 09:07 AM

    thank you everyone for your contribution!
  • Re: Ex-musilim Womens view's on the burqa, hijab ect
     Reply #25 - August 05, 2011, 11:55 PM

    hello  Smiley

    views on hijab ..hot , degrading , stupid......running out of words lol


    lol China doll has said it all! Go girl! xo

    God = King of Despots
  • Re: Ex-musilim Womens view's on the burqa, hijab ect
     Reply #26 - February 17, 2012, 01:17 AM

    Ace words, thanks.
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