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 Topic: The Return of Cosmos

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  • The Return of Cosmos
     OP - August 09, 2011, 01:08 AM

    The Return of Cosmos

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    Three decades ago, Carl Sagan's Cosmos found a way to describe the fundamental nature of the universe in a way that was not only informative but personally engaging.

    The genius of Cosmos, the 13-part documentary series that aired on PBS in 1980, was that its primary function was not to be bristling with instantly forgettable factoids or to sensationalize astrophysics, but to provide a medium for viewers to explore the nature of the reality of which we are a part. In his "ship of the imagination," using state-of-the-art but unintrusive graphics to tour the galaxies, the avuncular Sagan acted as guide and mentor to 700 million viewers worldwide, from kids like me who found a reason to lean forward toward the screen even for a show that was real, to adults of all walks of life.

    And in two years' time, Cosmos will return--in prime-time, on Fox, thanks to the clout of the producer behind it, self-described science geek Seth MacFarlane, who's also working with Fox on a Flintstones reboot for a debut around the same time.

    The new version is planned as another 13-episode journey called Cosmos: A Space-Time Odyssey, to be hosted by respected astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson. National Geographic Channel is co-producing and will air a same-night encore.

    This isn't just about bringing back another old show. MacFarlane is motivated in particular by the fall-off in the quality, quantity, and enthusiasm of science education, especially at the secondary level. A greater awareness of the possibilities of science is becoming urgently needed.

    "Never more than at this moment in the modern era have we needed a profound reminder of the colossally important and exciting role that science, space exploration and the human quest for knowledge must continue to play in our development as a species," MacFarlane said. "We should be vigorously exploring the solar system by now, and who better to inspire us to get there than Ann Druyan, Steven Soter, Neil deGrasse Tyson and, of course, Carl Sagan."

    "Carl believed that science belongs to all of us," said Druyan, an astrophysicist herself and Sagan's widow. "He wanted to convey the thrill of its cosmic perspective to the widest possible audience. I wish I could tell Carl what Seth's leadership on this new Cosmos has made possible. Besides, I know how much they would have liked each other."

    This could either be awesome or catastrophic.

    If MacFarlane remains true to his vision and has a loose leash it has the potential to be amazing, if Fox make him their bitch it will be a fucking abortion.


    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: The Return of Cosmos
     Reply #1 - August 09, 2011, 01:12 AM

    Hmm, I quite like deGrasse. Keeping an eye on this. If it's half as good as Cosmos it'll be worth watching.
  • Re: The Return of Cosmos
     Reply #2 - August 09, 2011, 01:21 AM

    It's in good hands with Neil DeGrasse. He's the perfect front man.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imS6H1JAkGY

    My only misgiving is the production.

    Anyway, proof is in the pudding.

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: The Return of Cosmos
     Reply #3 - August 09, 2011, 01:25 AM

    It's in good hands with Neil DeGrasse. He's the perfect front man.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imS6H1JAkGY

    001_wub
  • Re: The Return of Cosmos
     Reply #4 - August 09, 2011, 01:28 AM

    Wait, this is the same Macfarlane of Family Guy?
  • Re: The Return of Cosmos
     Reply #5 - August 09, 2011, 01:37 AM

    Yeah.

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: The Return of Cosmos
     Reply #6 - August 09, 2011, 04:20 AM

    Epic!  bunny
  • Re: The Return of Cosmos
     Reply #7 - August 09, 2011, 01:45 PM

    I think am going to love this. *Bookmarked*

    "I'm standing here like an asshole holding my Charles Dickens"

    "No theory,No ready made system,no book that has ever been written to save the world. i cleave to no system.."-Bakunin
  • Re: The Return of Cosmos
     Reply #8 - August 09, 2011, 01:51 PM

    It's in good hands with Neil DeGrasse. He's the perfect front man.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imS6H1JAkGY



     Smiley

    ''we are morally and philisophically in the best position to win the league'' - Arsene Wenger
  • Re: The Return of Cosmos
     Reply #9 - August 09, 2011, 02:52 PM

    Interesting. The original series was not aired over here, but we can watch Fox  Smiley It's on my listing!

    Religion is organized superstition
  • Re: The Return of Cosmos
     Reply #10 - August 09, 2011, 04:00 PM

    A thread about the return of New York Cosmos? How odd, I thought.


    (And an excuse to post a clip of Paul Scholes' last ever goal. What a cracker.)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnjR9mVhrkQ
  • Re: The Return of Cosmos
     Reply #11 - August 09, 2011, 04:03 PM

    No! Don't ruin Cosmos..  Neil deGrasse Tyson sucks.  Cry

    Formerly known as Iblis
  • Re: The Return of Cosmos
     Reply #12 - August 09, 2011, 04:14 PM

    It's being done, and let's wait and see.... Wink

    Religion is organized superstition
  • Re: The Return of Cosmos
     Reply #13 - August 09, 2011, 10:06 PM

    I like Neil deGrasse Tyson. My respect for him grown after his recent responce to the tempolton foundation.

    Neil deGrasse Tyson is good for the job i am glad that Ann Duran is also in the prodcution team.

    My other choice for the host would be Brian Cox Smiley.




    Lost somewhere between immensity and eternity is our tiny planetary home. [carl sagan]
  • The Return of Cosmos
     Reply #14 - March 12, 2014, 06:24 PM

    So did anybody watch it?

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • The Return of Cosmos
     Reply #15 - March 13, 2014, 03:50 AM

    Creationist Outrage Over 'Cosmos'
    The Young Turks
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q109ZB8z6yo

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  • The Return of Cosmos
     Reply #16 - March 13, 2014, 11:57 AM

    wanna watch it, has any UK channel bought the rights or shall I have to stream it

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • The Return of Cosmos
     Reply #17 - March 13, 2014, 12:55 PM

    It's on Nat Geo this sunday

    I also downloaded a copy (I didn't want to wait, and it's already been aired in the US) if you want earlier I'll try and up it to something and send you a link
  • The Return of Cosmos
     Reply #18 - March 13, 2014, 01:47 PM

    I watched it. Overall I enjoyed it, but I think it missed the mark in a couple of places.
    The reason I say this is because I happened to be watching it with an uninvited house guest who is a Christian creationist. Not the overly intellectual sort, but a strong believer nonetheless (fairly representative, unfortunately, of the general attitude of many American voters.)

    I think that rather than just telling the story and stating what happened since the big bang, the show could have done much more to show how we know what happened. My uninvited creationist houseguest (a tag-along related to an invited houseguest) kept speaking to the TV saying “You weren’t there! You don’t know what happened! How do you know!?”

     I contained my frustration, trying to be a good host, and hoped that the show would go on to explain more about how we know what we know. Instead, the show just presented the story without much emphasis on the evidence. The heavy and obvious reliance on CGI, including lots of things that did not need to be there (like his magical space ship that he used to travel through the universe) also lent a science fiction vibe to the show, making it easier to dismiss by those who don’t want to believe it.

    Lastly, I think they took a lot of jabs at the church. Seth MacFarlane’s animations of the early church clearly and unnecessarily depicted them as comic book villains—literally. When my creationist house guest saw this, he said “Why does Seth MacFarlane always have to make the Church look evil. I thought this show was going to be about science. All this is is God bashing.”

    All in all, I think the execution left a lot to be desired. I was really hoping it would be a sophisticated and impactful  presentation complemented with all of the mind-blowing scientific knowledge of Neil DeGrasse Tyson. Instead, it did come across even to me a bit like just a slap in the face to creationists. That’s fine, but I don’t think it will sway many minds. Preaching to the choir. A missed opportunity.
  • The Return of Cosmos
     Reply #19 - March 13, 2014, 02:14 PM

    Yeah i agree with HM to an extent. Although you cannot expect a 1 hour show to go into a lot of detail about how we know these things. It seemed more like an introduction to the topic aimed at inspiring kids rather than swaying the minds of adult creationists.
  • The Return of Cosmos
     Reply #20 - March 13, 2014, 03:19 PM

    Watch That cosmos

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJPBFhS5EvE
      Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey

    well I am glad to know that Ann Druyan who produced that 80's  Cosmos: A Personal Voyage, is also a team member of  new Cosmos: A Space time Odyssey So let us watch both  Cosmos..  Cosmos presented by   that great man Carl Sagan and new cosmos presented by his student.. another great guy....Neil deGrasse Tyson....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClPShKs9Kr0

    Cosmos: A Space time Odyssey

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • The Return of Cosmos
     Reply #21 - March 13, 2014, 03:55 PM

    It's on Nat Geo this sunday

    I also downloaded a copy (I didn't want to wait, and it's already been aired in the US) if you want earlier I'll try and up it to something and send you a link


    cheers mate, Yeezeevee has posted a link. Will watch it over the weekend.

    Thanks yeezee

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • The Return of Cosmos
     Reply #22 - March 13, 2014, 05:56 PM

    The heavy and obvious reliance on CGI, including lots of things that did not need to be there (like his magical space ship that he used to travel through the universe) also lent a science fiction vibe to the show, making it easier to dismiss by those who don’t want to believe it.

    The space ship is likely an affectionate nod or baton switch to the original series of Cosmos, that had Carl Sagan exploring the universe in a similar space ship.

    Lastly, I think they took a lot of jabs at the church. Seth MacFarlane’s animations of the early church clearly and unnecessarily depicted them as comic book villains—literally. When my creationist house guest saw this, he said “Why does Seth MacFarlane always have to make the Church look evil. I thought this show was going to be about science. All this is is God bashing.”

    I actually quite enjoyed those parts. It would have been nice to see them portrayed live-action, but I'm glad they were included. I'm glad they didn't shy away from the church's role in suppressing the sciences and how science has emerged the victor in a long-running battle of ideas.

    All in all, I think the execution left a lot to be desired. I was really hoping it would be a sophisticated and impactful  presentation complemented with all of the mind-blowing scientific knowledge of Neil DeGrasse Tyson.

    I think (I hope) the first episode is something of an introduction, and that's how I watched it. I imagine it will go into more depth as subjects are tackled one by one, like it was with Sagan in the original series. Either way, I thought the production was very pretty.

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • The Return of Cosmos
     Reply #23 - March 13, 2014, 07:20 PM

    Yeah I think the first ep was mainly a homage to the original series / introduction
  • The Return of Cosmos
     Reply #24 - March 13, 2014, 07:20 PM

    Yeah. I get it. Honestly, had I been watching it on my own, I probably wouldn’t have noticed much of the things I mentioned. But because the Christian dud was there to comment and ruin my enjoyment, I wished the program would have shown the reasons why he was wrong as opposed to just stating the “scientists’” version of events.
  • The Return of Cosmos
     Reply #25 - March 13, 2014, 08:44 PM

    sounds like the ultimate nightmare uninvited guest though dude

    You should have gone all Larry David on him

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • The Return of Cosmos
     Reply #26 - March 14, 2014, 07:48 PM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmdGFWS0m54#t=14
  • The Return of Cosmos
     Reply #27 - March 14, 2014, 08:05 PM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YfUuj0YLmMg

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • The Return of Cosmos
     Reply #28 - March 14, 2014, 08:06 PM

    Here is a petition on change.org that just came up to get National Geographic Arabic to stop censuring out parts of the Arabic version of the show:

    https://www.change.org/petitions/national-geographic-channel-apologize-and-stop-censoring-and-altering-the-content-in-the-upcoming-episodes
  • The Return of Cosmos
     Reply #29 - March 14, 2014, 08:14 PM

    sounds like the ultimate nightmare uninvited guest though dude

    You should have gone all Larry David on him

     

    Cheesy
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