Who are we?

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Who are we?
OP - August 16, 2011, 06:12 PM

This scientist had a stroke which gave her an insight into how the the 2 hemisphere's of our brain influence our perception. She's a great story teller...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paE4Et7tIFI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bffY0KBg44g

An alternative to religion;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2nfXfTg92E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWNW-NXEudk
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Reply #1 - August 16, 2011, 06:23 PM

Hi S.dude, nice to see you around.

It has been posted here a few days ago:
http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=17097.msg479949#msg479949
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Reply #2 - August 16, 2011, 06:28 PM

opps

An alternative to religion;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2nfXfTg92E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWNW-NXEudk
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Reply #3 - August 16, 2011, 06:30 PM

It's okay. What's your take on it?

On the la-la land.

The serenity.

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Reply #4 - August 16, 2011, 06:34 PM

i dont get why she didnt just dial 911 instead of phoning her friend though....unless i missed something...

"Between stimulus and response there is a space. In that space is our power to choose our response. In our response lies our growth and our freedom." - Viktor E. Frankl

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Reply #5 - August 16, 2011, 06:41 PM

She had a haemorrhage on the left side of her brain... bit harsh to criticise her for not being perfectly logical.
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Reply #6 - August 16, 2011, 06:55 PM

Quote from: Whabbist on August 16, 2011, 06:30 PM
It's okay. What's your take on it?

On the la-la land.

The serenity.

She.

I've had expansive experiences whilst doing dhikr and meditation, it seemed to explain many experiences I've had. I'm going to look more into neurology now.

An alternative to religion;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2nfXfTg92E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWNW-NXEudk
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Reply #7 - August 16, 2011, 07:11 PM

Was it similar to the Suffi who-who-who? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyav8i07hxg)
I'm told, people in zikr circles could lose consciousness and experience something akin to standing completely outside oneself. That's the literal meaning of the Greek word 'ecstasy' or the buddist concept of nirvana, as she call names. The first time I've been fetched by neurology was when I read Saturday by Ian Mcewan.
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Reply #8 - August 16, 2011, 07:21 PM

Note: the personal masculine and singular pronoun, pronounced /who + a/ with an aspirated consonant, in Arabic means him and he. The chanters in the above video are referring to prophet, in a barking manner.
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Reply #9 - August 16, 2011, 08:51 PM

Yeah we used to chat Hu, it was referring to Allah.

No one ever passed out in the Sufi circles that I was present at, and it was quite a few. Nor had I heard any sufis tell that to me. Where did you hear that?

I used to do this kind of stuff, I actually miss it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMNuGG-8Ziw

An alternative to religion;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2nfXfTg92E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWNW-NXEudk
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Reply #10 - August 16, 2011, 09:10 PM

Quote from: strangestdude on August 16, 2011, 08:51 PM
Where did you hear that?

My grandmother told me a few weeks before she died. She had herself passed out from what she called (khoso'a) and said it was common amongst her Tijaniyyah circle. Even though she did not speak Arabic, she memorised Qaṣida al-Burda andSalat al-Fatih. It was she who said that the Hu does reffer to the prophet too.
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Reply #11 - August 16, 2011, 09:42 PM

Oh ok, different Tariqats different ways .

An alternative to religion;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2nfXfTg92E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWNW-NXEudk
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Reply #12 - August 17, 2011, 10:13 PM

Hey Whabbist have you read this experience of Sufism from Hassan?

http://abooali.wordpress.com/chapter-3/

Hassan if you're reading this that was a great chapter. It mirrors my thoughts on Sufism now. The Shaykh was presented as a surrogate parent with divine authority, and I actually did Kiss the hands and feet of a Shaykh.

Towards the end of my life as a muslim I became annoyed with myslef that I venerated another human being to that degree, and I questioned how humble can someone really be (as is proclaimed by followers) if they allow other human beings to kiss their hands, and treat their every word as truth.

I was involved with the Naqshbandi Haqqani Tariqat intially, but then 'checked out' other tariqats. I found it funny that every Tariqat considered their head Shaykh to be the Sultan of awliya - every one I came across. I'm even talking to a family member who converted, who told me the same thing about his Shaykh.

An alternative to religion;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2nfXfTg92E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWNW-NXEudk
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