if you can create the perfect religion...

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if you can create the perfect religion...
OP - August 22, 2011, 03:14 PM

...what would it look like?

regardless of it being true of of course.
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Reply #1 - August 22, 2011, 03:40 PM

what would it look like? Lots of 3D fractals all moving around.
This, of course, with the aid of shrooms lol.

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Reply #2 - August 23, 2011, 06:57 AM

Quote from: truth_seeker on August 22, 2011, 03:14 PM
...what would it look like?

regardless of it being true of of course.

My Religions is True. It's called the religion of The Great Elephant Tree.

And it looks like a Beautiful Woman:-)

But Religion for this day and age would be Secularism.

Yes. Secularism can be kind of religion. A religion without God.

If I were to create a Religion it would be a cross between Buddhist Meditation (without the religious baggage) and Science.

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Reply #3 - August 23, 2011, 07:23 AM

sexcoffeemusic.

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Reply #4 - August 23, 2011, 07:45 AM

Quote from: Peppermint Tits on August 23, 2011, 07:23 AM
sexcoffeemusic.

^this and i would throw some chocolate into the mix

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Reply #5 - August 23, 2011, 07:47 AM

Quote from: Peppermint Tits on August 23, 2011, 07:23 AM
sexcoffeemusic.

You could at least leave the coffee out..it is hard to do coffee and sex together...it's a health hazard!

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My thoughtless hand has brushed away.

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Till some blind hand shall brush my wing.

Therefore I am a happy fly,
If I live or if I die.
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Reply #6 - August 23, 2011, 08:07 PM

Instead of tawheed as in Islam, the central dogma would be humanism. Outside of that its really hard to say what a "perfect" religion would entail. It really depends on the objectives of creating the religion in the first place.

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Reply #7 - August 24, 2011, 06:17 AM

I get where you are going with this.....

to answer your question I would use aspects of Hellenistic philosophy such as Stoicism as a base, taking from things such as the works of Marcus Aurelius, then I would meld it in with hindu iconography to pump up the aesthetic and improve on the allegories. Of course most importantly I'd strip out as much superstition as possible (since superstition is the mother off all that is wrong with religion).

There would of course be no "revelation", as
"If what the prophets announce corresponds to what the intellect decrees, then prophets are superfluous. If it contradicts what the intellect decrees, then one should not listen to them." (Al Rawandi)

And the main commandment, I guess if you would require such things, would be:
"Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones." (Marcus Aurelius)

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Reply #8 - August 24, 2011, 06:26 AM

Quote from: Homer on August 24, 2011, 06:17 AM
"Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones." (Marcus Aurelius)

That wisdom is like 10x better than anything I've read in the Quran. And Marcus isn't even a prophet.
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Reply #9 - August 24, 2011, 06:45 AM

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That wisdom is like 10x better than anything I've read in the Quran. And Marcus isn't even a prophet.

Reminds me of a Muhammad ibn Zakariya al-Razi quote:

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You claim that the evidentiary miracle is present and available, namely, the Koran. You say: "Whoever denies it, let him produce a similar one." Indeed, we shall produce a thousand similar, from the works of rhetoricians, eloquent speakers and valiant poets, which are more appropriately phrased and state the issues more succinctly. They convey the meaning better and their rhymed prose is in better meter. ... By God what you say astonishes us! You are talking about a work which recounts ancient myths, and which at the same time is full of contradictions and does not contain any useful information or explanation. Then you say: "Produce something like it"?!

I always found it weird how people hold up so many "sacred texts" like they are so awesomely written and profound that even if not true they are still important.....yet I read them I just think "Huh, that was a poorly written book that told a story that wasnt very good"

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superstructure is faith and the dome is a vain hope. Superstition
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Reply #10 - August 24, 2011, 06:58 AM

Quote from: truth_seeker on August 22, 2011, 03:14 PM
...what would it look like?

regardless of it being true of of course.

I'd be God.

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Reply #11 - August 24, 2011, 09:56 PM

Everyone wants to be god!

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My thoughtless hand has brushed away.

I too dance and drink, and sing,
Till some blind hand shall brush my wing.

Therefore I am a happy fly,
If I live or if I die.
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Reply #12 - January 23, 2012, 02:06 AM

Quote from: Homer on August 24, 2011, 06:17 AM
"Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones." (Marcus Aurelius)

Meditations, its a good book that i would recommend to most exxies, Qur'an is a shite compared to it.

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Reply #13 - January 23, 2012, 04:28 AM

I wish there was a heaven and that when you die everything is perfect beyond everything that you could ever imagine.

But there isn't. So...no religion I guess.
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Reply #14 - January 23, 2012, 11:31 AM

Quote from: Naija Infidel on January 23, 2012, 02:06 AM
Meditations, its a good book that i would recommend to most exxies, Qur'an is a shite compared to it.

Its wonderful.

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Reply #15 - January 23, 2012, 12:42 PM

Quote from: truth_seeker on August 22, 2011, 03:14 PM
...what would it look like?

Aikido

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Reply #16 - January 25, 2012, 07:55 PM

and there would be monkeys, because everyone loves monkeys

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Reply #17 - January 25, 2012, 08:11 PM

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Reply #18 - January 25, 2012, 09:28 PM

Love without fine print?

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Reply #19 - January 25, 2012, 10:01 PM

Quote from: Gladfly on August 23, 2011, 07:47 AM
You could at least leave the coffee out..it is hard to do coffee and sex together...it's a health hazard!

but... coffee IS an aphrodisiac

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Reply #20 - January 26, 2012, 06:49 PM

Quote from: Zaiba on January 25, 2012, 08:11 PM
This. And all good things in life won't be harmful, illegal or fattening!

Quote from: zoomi on January 23, 2012, 04:28 AM
I wish there was a heaven and that when you die everything is perfect beyond everything that you could ever imagine.

But there isn't. So...no religion I guess.

I dont actually....conflict is the 'spice of life' so to speak.
A universe where everything was perfect would be misery.

There is a Twilight Zone episode called 'A Nice Place to Visit' that addresses this.
A poor hustler dies and he goes to this place where everything is perfect. Everytime he hits the cue ball on the pool table they all go in, every hand he's dealt at the poker table is a royal flush, every woman loves him, he has a luxurious apartment for free, the cops cant chase him, every thing he does is instant win......It turns out to be hell

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wnevk-6h6aI
This is part of the reason I like polytheism more than monotheism, btw. If I'm going to have a fantasy afterlife, I want it with the possibility of action and adventure.

The foundation of superstition is ignorance, the
superstructure is faith and the dome is a vain hope. Superstition
is the child of ignorance and the mother of misery.
-Robert G. Ingersoll (1898)

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