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 Topic: Antinatalism - are you or your parents guilty

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  • Antinatalism - are you or your parents guilty
     OP - August 27, 2011, 04:26 PM
    Nice intro, although approached from a angle that is not the same approach ii would take (these anti natalist from a hedonistic perspective which i think fails) whereas Schopenhauer  (not a nihilist) approaches it from a better perspective - as the very condition of existence hence satisfaction in hedonism does not exist in the first place
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqOeHYeNezQ



    perspective of so-called scientist Richard dawkins dissected
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vats_PpuI4A&feature=channel_video_title



    "If children were brought into the world by an act of pure reason alone, would the human race continue to exist? Would not a man rather have so much sympathy with the coming generation as to spare it the burden of existence, or at any rate not take it upon himself to impose that burden upon it in cold blood?"
    — Arthur Schopenhauer

    what is your view
    "A belief in hell and the knowledge that every ambition is doomed to frustration at the hands of a skeleton have never prevented the majority of human beings from behaving as though death were no more than an unfounded rumour."
    Aldous Huxley
  • Re: Antinatalism - are you or your parents guilty
     Reply #1 - August 27, 2011, 04:30 PM
    Let me tell you what my mother told me one mother's day.

    "You know you should really thank me profusely.
    I came "snap" close to aborting you, you know"
    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: Antinatalism - are you or your parents guilty
     Reply #2 - August 27, 2011, 04:42 PM
    Jinn what did you say in reply?
    "A belief in hell and the knowledge that every ambition is doomed to frustration at the hands of a skeleton have never prevented the majority of human beings from behaving as though death were no more than an unfounded rumour."
    Aldous Huxley
  • Re: Antinatalism - are you or your parents guilty
     Reply #3 - August 27, 2011, 05:06 PM
    I just looked at her and walked away in disgust.
    I was an adult when she told me that.
    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: Antinatalism - are you or your parents guilty
     Reply #4 - August 27, 2011, 05:08 PM
    Quote from: Jinn and Tonic on August 27, 2011, 04:30 PM
    Let me tell you what my mother told me one mother's day.

    "You know you should really thank me profusely.
    I came "snap" close to aborting you, you know"


    Ungrateful co-- .... I'll stop there... finmad

    hugs sloshed
    07:54 <harakaat>: you must be jema
    07:54 <harakaat>: considering how annoying you are
  • Re: Antinatalism - are you or your parents guilty
     Reply #5 - August 27, 2011, 06:57 PM
    Quote from: Jinn and Tonic on August 27, 2011, 04:30 PM
    Let me tell you what my mother told me one mother's day.

    "You know you should really thank me profusely.
    I came "snap" close to aborting you, you know"

    My mum's said the same thing. And then she told me how she'd aborted another foetus. I had to struggle to keep a straight face, TBH.
  • Re: Antinatalism - are you or your parents guilty
     Reply #6 - August 27, 2011, 07:15 PM
    sunbul.. according to my dad, she had like 6 "miscarriages".
    He was never certain she really "lost" them or aborted them.
    Like she would tell him if he didnt do this or that, she might
    lose another baby.  shit like that
    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: Antinatalism - are you or your parents guilty
     Reply #7 - August 27, 2011, 07:41 PM
    O.o
    Our mums could be best friends, JnT. Mine's done similar shit. And it always works on me, too... *sigh*
  • Re: Antinatalism - are you or your parents guilty
     Reply #8 - August 27, 2011, 07:57 PM
    I want to give both of your mothers a good punt in the cunt.  furious
    "I know where I'm going and I know the truth, and I don't have to be what you want me to be. I'm free to be what I want."
    Muhammad Ali
  • Re: Antinatalism - are you or your parents guilty
     Reply #9 - August 27, 2011, 08:04 PM
    I love you Kitty. 001_wub
  • Re: Antinatalism - are you or your parents guilty
     Reply #10 - August 27, 2011, 08:13 PM
    Ilu2, boo.  Kiss
    "I know where I'm going and I know the truth, and I don't have to be what you want me to be. I'm free to be what I want."
    Muhammad Ali
  • Re: Antinatalism - are you or your parents guilty
     Reply #11 - August 28, 2011, 01:16 AM
    Quote from: Jinn and Tonic on August 27, 2011, 04:30 PM
    Let me tell you what my mother told me one mother's day.

    "You know you should really thank me profusely.
    I came "snap" close to aborting you, you know"

    Are you serious?!?!?
    If were you I'd laugh in her face and tell her "tough luck, deal with it" (wrong wording, did not mean it that way, I now second Aurora's comment below)

    You definitely deserve a better mom far away hug
    I know someday you'll have a beautiful life, I know you'll be a star
    In somebody else's sky, but why, why, why
    Can't it be, can't it be mine

    https://twitter.com/AlharbiMoe
  • Re: Antinatalism - are you or your parents guilty
     Reply #12 - August 28, 2011, 01:44 AM
    Quote from: Jinn and Tonic on August 27, 2011, 04:30 PM
    Let me tell you what my mother told me one mother's day.

    "You know you should really thank me profusely.
    I came "snap" close to aborting you, you know"


    She should be thankful that she's lucky enough to have someone like you.
  • Re: Antinatalism - are you or your parents guilty
     Reply #13 - August 28, 2011, 01:45 AM
    Quote from: Lucem Ferre on August 27, 2011, 04:26 PM
    Nice intro, although approached from a angle that is not the same approach ii would take (these anti natalist from a hedonistic perspective which i think fails) whereas Schopenhauer  (not a nihilist) approaches it from a better perspective - as the very condition of existence hence satisfaction in hedonism does not exist in the first place
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqOeHYeNezQ



    perspective of so-called scientist Richard dawkins dissected
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vats_PpuI4A&feature=channel_video_title



    "If children were brought into the world by an act of pure reason alone, would the human race continue to exist? Would not a man rather have so much sympathy with the coming generation as to spare it the burden of existence, or at any rate not take it upon himself to impose that burden upon it in cold blood?"
    — Arthur Schopenhauer

    what is your view


    As for the subject of this thread, here's my stance:
    If you're thinking about having a baby, and you know it will it will suffer horribly its whole life, don't concieve. It's digesting to wait to abort it.
    I know someday you'll have a beautiful life, I know you'll be a star
    In somebody else's sky, but why, why, why
    Can't it be, can't it be mine

    https://twitter.com/AlharbiMoe
  • Re: Antinatalism - are you or your parents guilty
     Reply #14 - August 28, 2011, 01:49 AM
    .
    I know someday you'll have a beautiful life, I know you'll be a star
    In somebody else's sky, but why, why, why
    Can't it be, can't it be mine

    https://twitter.com/AlharbiMoe
  • Re: Antinatalism - are you or your parents guilty
     Reply #15 - August 28, 2011, 11:11 PM
    Quote from: MoeAlharbi on August 28, 2011, 01:45 AM
    As for the subject of this thread, here's my stance:
    If you're thinking about having a baby, and you know it will it will suffer horribly its whole life, don't concieve. It's digesting to wait to abort it.


    In every case it will suffer as it is a thinking being unless it is fortunate enough to be naive, but our society would not allow that. 
    "A belief in hell and the knowledge that every ambition is doomed to frustration at the hands of a skeleton have never prevented the majority of human beings from behaving as though death were no more than an unfounded rumour."
    Aldous Huxley
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