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  • Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #390 - July 22, 2013, 03:52 PM
    Quote from: Quod Sum Eris on July 22, 2013, 04:02 AM
    Has she decided to vote liberal or conservative?

    she's voting UKIP  Wink
  • Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #391 - July 22, 2013, 03:57 PM
    To paraphrase Sir Winston Churchill, if you're not liberal at three months you have no heart. If you're not conservative at six months, you have no brain.
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #392 - August 07, 2013, 05:00 PM
    I am an ex-muslim.
    Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends.
  • Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #393 - August 07, 2013, 05:08 PM
    Two billys. Unacceptable. One is the Apple version.
    fuck you
  • Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #394 - August 07, 2013, 05:09 PM
    Bite me.  grin12
    Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends.
  • Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #395 - August 07, 2013, 05:12 PM
     Cry
    fuck you
  • Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #396 - August 07, 2013, 05:13 PM
    Seriously though, I didn't realise when I chose the tag. Dammit!  finmad
    Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends.
  • Re: Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #397 - August 11, 2013, 03:22 AM
    Quote from: Quod Sum Eris on July 22, 2013, 04:02 AM
    Pretty much why I can't take it to seriously when someone says "This small child here is Sunni Muslim, this one here is Roman Catholic".
    "Ahh, interesting. What does your two year old think of the U.N.'s response to North Korean aggression? Love to hear what they think the political fallout will be. Oh I see you have a six month old baby. Has she decided to vote liberal or conservative? They both have rather compelling arguments depending on which way you want the country to go."


    LOL, that had me rolling.  QSE, you're making too much damn sense, keep this up and I'll all have is blind faith to rely on.

  • Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #398 - August 11, 2013, 03:24 AM
    But yeah, again, Ashahadu an Laa ilaaha illal'laah wa anna Muhammadan Rasoolulah.

  • Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #399 - August 11, 2013, 03:29 AM
    I think it's a valid point. As an adult who has looked into religious teachings, looked into the arguments for and against, familiarised myself with centuries of teachings and traditions and interpretations, weighted things up, I can honestly say I'm an atheist. No child comes out the womb with an encyclopedic knowledge of a particular faith or philosophy and thinks "Yeah. That makes sense. I'll go with that."
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #400 - August 11, 2013, 03:30 AM
    Quote from: Seeker on August 11, 2013, 03:24 AM
    But yeah, again, Ashahadu an Laa ilaaha illal'laah wa anna Muhammadan Rasoolulah.




    And for those of us who speak English?
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #401 - August 11, 2013, 03:41 AM
    It's the profession of Islamic faith and the very core of Islamic creed. By saying those words you are formally announcing that you have become a Muslim(if you already aren't)

    The meaning is: "I bear witness that there is no deity worthy of worship except Allah, and that Muhammad is his Messenger"
  • Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #402 - August 11, 2013, 03:48 AM
    For those of us not fluent in Arabic, mind using a language we can all understand?
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #403 - August 11, 2013, 03:53 AM
    I just did, didn't I? I translated the meaning of what I said in the post above.
  • Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #404 - August 11, 2013, 04:05 AM
    I meant without me having to ask what it means. That's one of the things I always found odd with dawah people, they'd throw in all these Arabic sentences when they know full well I don't have a clue what they're on about. Sounds like gibberish.
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #405 - August 11, 2013, 11:19 AM
    I still think "Laa ilaaha illal'laah" sounds like that Lady Gaga-song

    And I knew what it meant, by the way. Google is your friend. This is, after all, a site dedicated to ex-Muslims.

    Without such knowledge you will have a hard time valuing the implications of this scene eg.:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNZnZJIRL40
    Danish Never-Moose adopted by the kind people on the CEMB-forum
    Ex-Muslim chat (Unaffliated with CEMB). Safari users: Use "#ex-muslims" as the channel name. CEMB chat thread.
  • Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #406 - August 11, 2013, 12:26 PM
    >> ex muslim from saudi arabia ..
    from community believe that Islam is  < theory of everything >  whistling2
  • Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #407 - September 01, 2013, 04:42 AM
    Yes, my eyes are wide open  Smiley
  • Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #408 - September 27, 2013, 02:24 AM
    Ex Muslim. Look at that.I just joined and already I see Michael Muhammad Knight. I almost chose that instead of leaving. I don't know how he does it.
    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #409 - September 27, 2013, 03:15 AM
    Quote from: Seeker on August 11, 2013, 03:24 AM
    But yeah, again, Ashahadu an Laa ilaaha illal'laah wa anna Muhammadan Rasoolulah.


    Quote from: Quod Sum Eris on August 11, 2013, 04:05 AM
    I meant without me having to ask what it means. That's one of the things I always found odd with dawah people, they'd throw in all these Arabic sentences when they know full well I don't have a clue what they're on about. Sounds like gibberish.


    That's because it is gibberish - even, perhaps especially, when it's been translated.
  • Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #410 - September 27, 2013, 03:19 AM
    Quote from: Seeker on August 11, 2013, 03:41 AM
    The meaning is: "I bear witness that there is no deity worthy of worship except Allah, and that Muhammad is his Messenger"


    "...there is no deity worthy of worship except Allah, ..."

    So there are other deities then? They're just not worthy of worship?
  • Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #411 - September 27, 2013, 03:30 AM
    I was always told it was "No god except Allah", not "No other deity worthy of worship.." But I am not fluent in Classical Arabi, either.
    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #412 - September 27, 2013, 06:15 PM
    Quote from: sirderam on September 27, 2013, 03:19 AM
    "...there is no deity worthy of worship except Allah, ..."

    So there are other deities then? They're just not worthy of worship?


    This is very interesting.

    Could you provide an academic source for this?
    No free mixing of the sexes is permitted on these forums or via PM or the various chat groups that are operating.

    Women must write modestly and all men must lower their case.

    http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?425649-Have-some-Hayaa-%28modesty-shame%29-people!
  • Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #413 - September 27, 2013, 07:16 PM
    Quote from: three on September 27, 2013, 03:30 AM
    I was always told it was "No god except Allah", not "No other deity worthy of worship.." But I am not fluent in Classical Arabi, either.


    In the kalimah, it is the first one.
  • Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #414 - September 27, 2013, 07:18 PM
    Quote from: sirderam on September 27, 2013, 03:19 AM
    "...there is no deity worthy of worship except Allah, ..."

    So there are other deities then? They're just not worthy of worship?


    It's actually "there is no one worthy of worship except Allah"...not deity.
  • Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #415 - September 28, 2013, 07:20 PM
    ^ No it’s not. It says la ilaha. La means No, and Ilaha is the word for ‘god’ or ‘gods’.
  • Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #416 - September 28, 2013, 09:59 PM
    Quote from: Jedi on September 27, 2013, 06:15 PM
    This is very interesting.

    Could you provide an academic source for this?


    I was quoting Seeker from post #404. I was surprised to see it in that particular form too, hence my question. I had always heard it translated as "... there is no god but Allah ...".
  • Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #417 - September 28, 2013, 10:35 PM
    Well.....

    maybe the difference is semantical. No deity/No other God/No one....all alludes to the same thing.

    Ultimately Kodanishi is correct:

    Laillaha Illalah, 'There is none worthy of worship, except for Allah' or 'There is no God but Allah.'

    The concept of Tawhid remains intact with either words beings used. However, the former wording does not just refer to 'deities' but human subjects of worship too, thus reinforcing the concept of sovereignty remaing with Allah alone.

    Either way, saying deities/no one/God is a non argument.

    FATWA ISSUED.
    No free mixing of the sexes is permitted on these forums or via PM or the various chat groups that are operating.

    Women must write modestly and all men must lower their case.

    http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?425649-Have-some-Hayaa-%28modesty-shame%29-people!
  • Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #418 - September 29, 2013, 12:02 AM
    Quote from: BerberElla on March 18, 2008, 01:29 PM
    Just trying to get a rough idea of how many ex muslims there are at this forum, and who they are so please could you add your name to this thread if you are.  Afro



    I am an ex.muslim  Smiley
  • Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #419 - September 29, 2013, 12:13 AM
    Quote from: Kodanshi on September 28, 2013, 07:20 PM
    ^ No it’s not. It says la ilaha. La means No, and Ilaha is the word for ‘god’ or ‘gods’.


    It is. It is either "there is noone worthy of worship except Allah" or "there is no god except Allah". The first translation is not a literal translation, like many other translations in arabic.
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