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  • Re: Recitation of Sura The Chicken
     Reply #60 - October 11, 2011, 02:05 AM
    لَقَدْ أَرْسَلْنَا نُوحًا إِلَىٰ قَوْمِهِ فَقَالَ يَا قَوْمِ اعْبُدُوا اللَّـهَ

    Fez is an ism 3alam a3jami thulaathi saakin al wasa6

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    3 ـ العلم الأعجمي :

          يشترط في منعه من الصرف أن يكون علما في اللغة التي نقل منها إلى اللغة العربية ، أو لم يكن علما في اللغة التي نقل منها ثم صار علما في اللغة العربية . كما يشترط فيه أن يكون مزيدا على ثلاثة أحرف ، فإن كان ثلاثيا صرف في حالة ، ومنع في أخرى

    أما إذا كان العلم الأعجمي ثلاثيا فله حالتان :

    1 ـ إن كان متحرك الوسط ، وجب منعه من الصرف .
    2 ـ وإن كان ساكن الوسط وجب صرفه . نحو : هود ، ولوط ، ونوح ، وخان .


    Also:

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    تعريف الممنوع من الصرف :

           هو الاسم المعرب الذي لا يدخله تنوين التمكين ، ويجر بالفتحة نيابة عن الكسرة ، إلا إذا عرّف بـ " أل " ، أو الإضافة ، فإنه يجر بالكسرة .


    With sarf it's tanween kasr, without sarf it's fat7a; I don't think one could use just a kasra on that word. How would you justify that in i3raab?
    قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
    مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

    قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
    حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

    ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
    لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
  • Re: Recitation of Sura The Chicken
     Reply #61 - October 11, 2011, 09:34 AM
    Quote from: harakaat on October 11, 2011, 02:05 AM
    لَقَدْ أَرْسَلْنَا نُوحًا إِلَىٰ قَوْمِهِ فَقَالَ يَا قَوْمِ اعْبُدُوا اللَّـهَ

    Fez is an ism 3alam a3jami thulaathi saakin al wasa6

    Also:

    With sarf it's tanween kasr, without sarf it's fat7a; I don't think one could use just a kasra on that word. How would you justify that in i3raab?


    I'm very impressed that such a young lad knows his grammar so well Afro. Most Arabs hate Arabic grammar.

    Fez is a foreign word and therefore like most asma' a'jami it is mamnoo' min a sarf/tanween.

    I hear what you are saying about full sarf of words with trilteral root and sakin al wasat, but there are exceptions.

    وإذا كان العلم المؤنث الثلاثي أعجميا . مثل : بلخ - اسم مدينة
    وجب منعه من الصرف . نقول : بلخُ مدينة جميلة ، وشاهدت بلخَ ، وسافرت إلى بلخَ . بدون تنوين ، وجر بالفتحة -
    http://www.forsanelhaq.com/archive/index.php/t-103707.html

    I will change it to Fatha instead of Kasra - as that was a mistake.

    This is all academic of course as I will pause on the last consonant. But just want it to be as watertight as I can make it.
  • Re: Recitation of Sura The Chicken
     Reply #62 - October 11, 2011, 09:55 AM
    سورة العقل

    قُلْ أَعُوذُ بِعَقْلِ النَّاسِ
    كَرَامَةِ النَّاسِ
    مِنْ شَرِّ كُلِ شَيْخٍ عَدِيمِ الْإحْسَاسِ
    لَعَّانٍ فَاحِشٍ عَبَّاسٍ
    يَزْرَعُ بِدُرُوسِهِ الْوِسْوَاسَ
    وِسْوَاسَ الدِّينِ خَارِبَ عُقُولِ النَّاسِ
    مِنْ كَازَاخِسْتَانَ إلَى فَاسَ

    Sura of Human Reason

    Say I seek refuge in the Intellect of man
    The dignity of man
    From the evil of every Sheikh bereft of sense
    Cursed, vulgar, frowning,
    With his teachings planting paranoia,
    Religious paranoia that destroys the minds of man
    From Kazakhstan to Fez
  • Re: Recitation of Sura The Chicken
     Reply #63 - October 11, 2011, 12:17 PM
    Quote from: Hassan on October 11, 2011, 09:34 AM
    I'm very impressed that such a young lad knows his grammar so well Afro. Most Arabs hate Arabic grammar.


    Thanks Tongue I love Arabic a lot (even though I don't think it should be taught at school because technically it's not really our mother language) because when I was a kid and no one would understand my Algerian Arabic at school, I had to use the fus7a I'd learned from TV to communicate with my classmates, and I practically grew up on Spacetoon and Majallat Majid (an awesome kids' magazine). Kamaa qaala 'sh-shaa3ir:

    لا تَلُمْنِي في هواهـا ** أنَا لا أهْوَى سِواها
    لستُ وحْـدِي أفْتَدِيها ** كُلُّـنا اليومَ فِداهـا
    نَزَلـتْ في كلِ نفسٍ ** وتَمَشَّتْ في دِمَاهـا
    فَبِــها الأمُّ تَغَنَّـتْ ** وبها الوالدُ فاهــا
    وبها الفنُّ تَجَــلَّى ** وبها العلمُ تَبَاهــى
    كلمـا مر زمــانٌ ** زادَها مجدًا وجاهـا
    لغةُ الأجدادِ هَــذِي ** رفع اللهُ لِوَاهـــا
    قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
    مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

    قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
    حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

    ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
    لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
  • Re: Recitation of Sura The Chicken
     Reply #64 - October 11, 2011, 12:24 PM
    I always wondered why proper names in the Mushaf had tanween.

    وَلُوطاً إِذْ قَالَ لِقَوْمِهِ

    I take it it's just because they are indefinite nouns and could, conceivably, be talking about anyone by that name?

    Interesting discussion on the 'i3raab,' by the way.
  • Re: Recitation of Sura The Chicken
     Reply #65 - October 11, 2011, 12:27 PM
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    Since Arabic has no indefinite article, nouns in a syntactic context unmarked for definiteness are generally indefinite; this has led to the extremely common but inaccurate belief that nunation is a marker for indefiniteness and is analogous to an indefinite article. The lack of a marker for definiteness does not necessarily make a word indefinite; in fact, many definite nouns (proper names) take nunation, as for example in the expression أشهد أن محمداً رسول الله (ʾa?hadu ʾanna Muḥammadan rasūlu llāh: "I witness that Muhammad is the messenger of God."), in which the name Muhammad, a definite noun, is nunated.

    قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
    مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

    قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
    حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

    ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
    لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
  • Re: Recitation of Sura The Chicken
     Reply #66 - October 11, 2011, 12:28 PM
    Are you an Arab, Zebedee?
    قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
    مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

    قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
    حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

    ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
    لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
  • Re: Recitation of Sura The Chicken
     Reply #67 - October 11, 2011, 12:37 PM
    Not at all, I'm just interested in learning Arabic.

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    The lack of a marker for definiteness does not necessarily make a word indefinite


    I kinda knew that much, as in say, the phrase 'rasoolullah.' The word 'rasool' hasn't got a definite marker but nevertheless it is grammatically equivalent to 'the rasool of Allah.' Correct me if I'm wrong.

    And I wonder why the tanween is added, then, in cases where it's not used to indicate indefiniteness.
  • Re: Recitation of Sura The Chicken
     Reply #68 - October 11, 2011, 01:12 PM
    Nice! And Hebrew as well?

    LOL, regarding that, my Arabic teacher was ranting about that today. "The West is sending astronauts to the moon, and we're sitting in our little offices debating the philosophical reasons why the mubtada2 is marfoo3... Goddamit"

    And yeah, "Rasool" in "Rasoolullah" is mudhaaf, so it is considered definite because the mudhaaf ilayh (Allaah) is definite.

    In general, when you don't have a definite marker, you must have tanween, unless it's mamnoo3 min as-sarf, like the words Hassan and I were discussing. As for why that is the case, I saw a lovely grammar book years ago at our local library that discussed these things -- that reconstructed Arabic grammar, so to speak. I'll look for it sometime, should be an interesting read.
    قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
    مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

    قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
    حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

    ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
    لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
  • Re: Recitation of Sura The Chicken
     Reply #69 - October 11, 2011, 01:52 PM
    Quote from: harakaat on October 11, 2011, 12:17 PM
    لا تَلُمْنِي في هواهـا ** أنَا لا أهْوَى سِواها
    لستُ وحْـدِي أفْتَدِيها ** كُلُّـنا اليومَ فِداهـا
    نَزَلـتْ في كلِ نفسٍ ** وتَمَشَّتْ في دِمَاهـا
    فَبِــها الأمُّ تَغَنَّـتْ ** وبها الوالدُ فاهــا
    وبها الفنُّ تَجَــلَّى ** وبها العلمُ تَبَاهــى
    كلمـا مر زمــانٌ ** زادَها مجدًا وجاهـا
    لغةُ الأجدادِ هَــذِي ** رفع اللهُ لِوَاهـــا


    Very nice  Afro

    I remember reading Mihnati ma'al-Qur'an and the author saying something like the Arabs define themselves by Islam and see the glory of the Arabs and their language in Islam. They fear without it they will lose their identity and everything. But this fear is baseless - with the loss of one identity comes the opportunity to build a new one.

    They don't owe their achievements to Islam - which if anything have held them back. The great Arab scientists, poets and authors were great individuals and their works surpassed the Qur'an - yet they were never allowed to acknowledge it.
  • Re: Recitation of Sura The Chicken
     Reply #70 - October 11, 2011, 02:50 PM
    Quote
    Nice! And Hebrew as well?


    Yes, I'd like to learn Hebrew too. It's very closely-related to Arabic, and shares many words, roots, etc., with it.

    Quote
    LOL, regarding that, my Arabic teacher was ranting about that today. "The West is sending astronauts to the moon, and we're sitting in our little offices debating the philosophical reasons why the mubtada2 is marfoo3... Goddamit"


    Never underestimate the importance of grammar. Indeed, there is quite an unfortunate dearth of understanding in this area among Western people, as evidenced by the fact that so many supposedly literate individuals can't even tell the difference between common words like 'then' and 'than,' and 'me' and 'I.'

    Oh, and though the Americans may have sent astronauts to the moon, I bet a good portion of them still don't know that the famous phrase "One small step for man, one giant leap for mankind" isn't grammatically correct. Tongue

    (It is, of course, supposed to be: "One small step for a man...")
  • Re: Recitation of Sura The Chicken
     Reply #71 - October 12, 2011, 12:15 AM
    love the opening mystery letters! xD
    I chose to get circumcised at 17, don't tell me I never believed.
  • Re: Recitation of Sura The Chicken
     Reply #72 - October 12, 2011, 07:41 PM
    And the flagging begins!

    snoiprocs16 53 minutes ago
    No one can imitate the Holy Quran, your fake words and verse sounds really stupid. You can go to Islamic videos, all are Defensive unlike your videos, your videos are Offensive. That shows how unethical you are. this should be flag . .!
  • Re: Recitation of Sura The Chicken
     Reply #73 - October 12, 2011, 07:58 PM
    How can you fulfil the qur’an's challenge of bringing a surah/10 surahs like it if you don’t compose a surah like it?! Huh?
  • Re: Recitation of Sura The Chicken
     Reply #74 - October 12, 2011, 08:08 PM
    Hass, what happened to the video?
    fuck you
  • Re: Recitation of Sura The Chicken
     Reply #75 - October 12, 2011, 08:28 PM
    Quote from: Kodanshi on October 12, 2011, 07:58 PM
    How can you fulfil the qur’an's challenge of bringing a surah/10 surahs like it if you don’t compose a surah like it?! Huh?


    "Bring another Sura like it if ye are truthful - but we will flag you if you do!"
  • Re: Recitation of Sura The Chicken
     Reply #76 - October 12, 2011, 08:28 PM
    Quote from: Colonel Q-Daffi on October 12, 2011, 08:08 PM
    Hass, what happened to the video?


    Sorry it was the wrong link - I've corrected it now. Watch it while you can.
  • Re: Recitation of Sura The Chicken
     Reply #77 - October 14, 2011, 09:17 PM
    extra222love 50 minutes ago
    Such video is a great marketing tool for the real Quran. Everybody would open the Quran.com to check whether these filthy words do exist or not! Two benefits are achieved:
    1- Immediate debunk for this liar video!
    2- Read the real Quran.
    I love when Quran always backfires on these guys.
    Nice reciting but filthy words!
  • Re: Recitation of Sura The Chicken
     Reply #78 - October 14, 2011, 09:31 PM
    Quote
    Quote from: truth_seeker on October 09, 2011, 10:15 AM
    what exactly does 'Qurqan' mean?  Huh?

    Quote from: Kodanshi on October 09, 2011, 12:58 PM
    I thought it was a place in Iran. Or a pisstake of Furqan.


    What?? what kind of question and what kind of answer is that ...

    you guys don't know  what 'Qurqan' is??  

    In old Arabic language "Qurqan"    is actually pronounced as "KohQurqan" , In English it turns in to   "Sound of Chicken" .  hence these CEMB smart guys named it as Sura_The Chicken


    Here   listen to it

    Damn that is most annoying noise..
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Re: Recitation of Sura The Chicken
     Reply #79 - October 14, 2011, 09:53 PM
    In English it's Cock–A–Doodle–Doo…
  • Re: Recitation of Sura The Chicken
     Reply #80 - October 14, 2011, 10:02 PM
    Quote from: Kodanshi on October 14, 2011, 09:53 PM
    In English it's Cock–A–Doodle–Doo…

    What?  COCK??.. err.,  Damn  Kodanshi ...

    CEMB is full of filthy minds with filth  thoughts..  oh well... it is the fault of allah..

    Nope.. No Cocks, no foul words.,  good people like me call "Sounds of Chicken"
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Re: Recitation of Sura The Chicken
     Reply #81 - October 21, 2011, 10:13 AM
    One guy says I have committed a criminal offence:


    FERRAS1977
    Please report as infrigmant/ Fasle Holy scriptures. This is a punishable crime by the federal law.


    TheHolyQurqan
    I said openly this is NOT the Qur'an. Nor is it pretending to be Qur'an. This is called satire/parody. Just a bit of fun. Lighten up, my friend. It will do Muslims a great deal of good to stop getting offended by everything. Have you heard of Monty Python's "The Life of Brian"? It's a parody/satire on the life of Jesus. Do Christians get all upset about it - no! Why? Because they are mature enough not to feel threatened by a bit of satire. Being able take a joke is healthy.


    FERRAS1977
    @TheHolyQurqan However, by doing this for fun, You can mislead many english speakers to believe that these words actually come from the Quran, and you can do more bad than good. The Quran is Holy Scripture and it should be treated as such, and I do fully understand your intentions, simply because You have violated the terms of Youtube infrigimant/ Falsifying holy scriptures, and this is a Criminal offense by the federal law. I pray that people are wise enough to know that this is not the truth
  • Re: Recitation of Sura The Chicken
     Reply #82 - October 21, 2011, 11:36 AM
    Oh boy, Hassan you really went and did it this time..  Jail time i'm gonna miss you..  Cry
    J.C. i think made a comment about the religious being so bad at jokes..  i just wanna shake people like that..  Snap out of it "laugh damn you"
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV9vdUjuWxc
  • Re: Recitation of Sura The Chicken
     Reply #83 - October 21, 2011, 01:36 PM
    My mind's busy boggling about what an 'infrigmant' might be.
  • Re: Recitation of Sura The Chicken
     Reply #84 - October 21, 2011, 04:02 PM
    Just in case you need one at your trial Hassan.
     

    Statement of an English speaking non-Muslim person:

    "As soon as I read the title 'Sura of the Chicken', I thought, "What's this?". There is no such Sara in the Qur'an. Then I look more carefully. I see it's in the Qurqan. I smile and laugh lightly to myself. I then think. "Humm... what sort of conversation will come from this."

    If some one is mislead into thnking this Sura is really in the Qur'an they have only themself to blame because they were to lazy, have no desire to increase their knowledge and to lacking in curiousity to even pick up a Qur'an and read the table of content."

     Smiley

     I wonder which Federal Court would hear the case? (I mean what country)
    Was the person suggesting this serious?
    If at first you succeed...try something harder.

    Failing isn't falling down. Failing is not getting back up again.
  • Re: Recitation of Sura The Chicken
     Reply #85 - October 21, 2011, 04:09 PM
    Quote from: nessrriinn on October 21, 2011, 11:36 AM
    Oh boy, Hassan you really went and did it this time..  Jail time i'm gonna miss you..  Cry
    ....

    What  Jail time ??

    don't you worry nessrriinn, if that happens to some one like Hassan in England.. we all will join that Jail time   The fellow who threatened is a fool who know nothing about Laws..

    Quote from: Lynna on October 21, 2011, 04:02 PM

     I wonder which Federal Court would hear the case? (I mean what country)
    Was the person suggesting this serious?


    Every country who  has Muslim Population more than 75%   will prosecute ...  and in some Dhimmi countries could take you to the court if not jail..
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Re: Recitation of Sura The Chicken
     Reply #86 - October 21, 2011, 05:21 PM
    Quote from: Lynna on October 21, 2011, 04:02 PM
    Was the person suggesting this serious?


    He was serious and only toned down his language slightly when I pointed out that I never claimed it was Qur'an - on the contrary specifically said it was not.

    It's odd that the Qur'an asks people to produce a sura like it and Muslims keep gloating that no-one has ever met the challenge - yet when someone does they are threatened with being taken to court?
  • Re: Recitation of Sura The Chicken
     Reply #87 - October 21, 2011, 06:32 PM
    FERRAS1977 14 hours ago
    This is falsifying holy scriptures. I will report this to the Youtube administration, and In God will they should take care of it.
  • Re: Recitation of Sura The Chicken
     Reply #88 - October 21, 2011, 06:43 PM
    And failing that, he'll get the infrigmants on you.
  • Re: Recitation of Sura The Chicken
     Reply #89 - October 21, 2011, 06:46 PM
    lol...
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